I think the laws of libel are a bit stronger than the Publican example you quoted.Something in print carries more weight than hear-say in a Pub etc.
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I'd be willing to part with some cash to protect on-line free speech relating to Irish football on the web.
I wonder are there are any legal types who read here regularly who be willing to do a bit of pro-bono work?
bhs
If it's the 3 letter organisation I'm thinking of, I'd be willing to support such a fund.
Just when you think the said organisation was gone for good they re-surface to cause mayhem, I think everyone on this forum has had a bad experience over the years from said organisation whether it be over priced tickets, delayed journey times or a narcissistic workforce....
CIE.........you've gone too far this time
Theres a lot of test cases waiting to happen. the libel laws are way out of date and really were not made with digital media in mind.
Anyway to be libel it would have to be untrue. If its the organisation we are all thinking of they haven't a leg to stand on and its about time someone stuck it to them.
OK - I'll setup a list in here later on tonight listing what people would be willing to contribute towards staving off the legal eagles.
A running total of sorts would be a useful thing to have to keep track of all this.
On the subject of this proposed "legal shoeing" by the overweight front row of the nameless ones - I've heard rumours from other sources confirming the worst.
This may get worse before it gets better...
Yes! Somebody in unsaid organisation seems to have a lot of time on their hands.
The truth is never libellous .
obviously i've no idea about the specifics of what is at stake here, but i could recommend http://www.digitalrights.ie/ for resources about online liability, as well as plenty of moral support from some civil liberties zealots..
MCD Promoters sued Boards.ie
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I'll chip in.
"You got to fight the power
Fight the powers that be"
- Public Enemy
Though at times, I think online criticism simply isn't going far enough:
"The only way to change things
Is to shoot men who arrange things."
- Dexy's
I'm not willing to contribute without condition.
Lets say some raving Dundalk fan said something completely inaccurate about some organisation, then there's not a hope in hell that I'd fork out, to defend them.
If I felt the forum was being bullied and freedom of speech was being denied, then I'd consider making a contribution towards the cost of defending its stance.
Agreed, that's why it's imperative that we stand up to this bullying. In the long term it'll be better for the game in this country.
As we all know, we as fans have the game's best interests at heart. That sense of righteousness helped sustain us when we were getting rid of the cancer that affected Rovers. When you're right and your motives are pure it's very hard to be defeated.
KOH
There are a couple of cases heading towards the Supreme Court according to an article in the Irish Times on January 20th (in relation to the An Fear Rua GAA orientated website). I've copied the relevant section below.
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Having studied for and taken a law degree when in the public service, he has a natural wariness about the still unfolding shape of on-line defamation. Although there are some cases in the system the Supreme Court has yet to make a determination on the parameters of internet responsibility.
He hopes the bona fides of website administrators will be taken into account but no one knows and he doesn't wish to be the one finding out in some scaldingly expensive action down in the Four Courts.
Every day he checks the discussion board for the latest threads and also receives the assistance of several contributors, also with legal backgrounds, who contact him as soon as they spot anything with potential legal ramifications.
This is no guarantee against trouble. "You watch as much as you can," he says, "but often it can be the 41st posting on a thread that goes mad after 40 perfectly reasonable ones."
It's worked well so far and only twice has the site been contacted directly to take down a thread - and in one case it had already been deleted.
Cahill accepts three is also what he terms "a propriety issue". Anonymous posters can say what they like about anyone and it's up to the site to filter out the unacceptable, whether or not it's potentially defamatory. Tighter registration rules have been introduced in response to this and evolving technology.
Can you tell us if it is defamation or copyright, or something else?
Would also chip in, but moving the website to another hosting company outside certain borders would also do the job.
Boards thing is still ongoing MCD havent a leg to stand on but have the money to win it :confused: (dont know how the courts work must be a Shels thing)
kdjac
well i wonder if they could stop this?
fai-lure.blogspot.com
anybody who wants to contribute pm me
All they'd have to do is rattle blogspot.com's cage and it could get taken down. If you're going to do a blog like that, get it hosted properly.
It sounds interesting, but I suspect it would wind up being a bit ranty and not factual enough for my liking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9...Internationale
they are an irelevance to irish football, feck them and their bloody ballon speed records ...
bhs
another counter-productive PR gaffe by the FAI!
is this history's first instance of shooting oneself in the foot.ie?
Am I the only one who thought that the whole idea of planning an Out protest for our showcase game at Croke Park, complete with Out t-shirts, and linking to the site selling the t-shirts, and making the thread a sticky, is thick in the extreme? Regardless of whether or not any organisation can bother the site legally, is (or was) the public organinisation of such a protest something that the forum should be hosting?
Was talking to a hack earlier and he said, in no uncertain terms, that a certain organisation was planning a major clampdown. Hinted that consultants were monitoring all media outlets and that some were more vulnerable than others. i.e. Those with less financial clout. He has never told me anything which wasn't true before.
how do we know the hamster wouldnt spend all the money on one of them big shiny fancy cd things to hang on his rear view mirror to ward of speed cameras????????
Obviously I'll chip in
I'll send all the Zimbabwean Dollars yeese want!!!!!