the long awaited return to winter soccer!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Soper
lads, this is a load of bo**ocks seriously..
were we invited..
i doubt it somehow:rolleyes:
Printable View
the long awaited return to winter soccer!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Soper
lads, this is a load of bo**ocks seriously..
were we invited..
i doubt it somehow:rolleyes:
FAIreland,Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
80 Merrion Square,
Dublin 2,
Ireland
If coming from northside stop off on Moore street for some lighters with flint, 5 for a euro or so.
kdjac
Not just the FAI involved here...Quote:
Originally Posted by red bellied
This sound very dodgy. If true Sligo Rovers would of have to been consulted on this based on last seasons placements (with Shels predicament) and never would of agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliesboots
That makes no sense at all mate.... re-read and re-write if possible
Very like the old asterix though - very poor effort at asterix design!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniffer
Yet another wasted rush job:)
why would they have to have been consulted? It's a tournament run by its own committee under the jurisdiction of both the IFA and FAI. The rules are drawn up by the committee who then ask the relevant body to invite participants. No consultation needed with anybody - its not as if clubs are affiliated with the Setanta Cup the way they are with the League or FAI
Its a big blow to Shelbourne Football club and especially there fans that they pulled out of Setanta...
Plus it's an Invitational Tournament - it's up to the committee who they inviteQuote:
Originally Posted by charliesboots
Can't remember where my rule book is, but this suggests that Sligo Rovers should be in.
But sure I could change that now if I pleased...hardly a hard source to rely on!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniffer
Agreed, but the best on offer at the moment; hence 'suggests'
Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Would LOVE to know how you come to this conclusion!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by David
David
The reason people have little sympathy for Shels is simple. They were spending money that everybody knew they hadnt got, they were spending money taking every issue that went against them to arbitration/court/tribunal in order to win the titles, they spent money trying to keep players even though they werent paying them [and losing a fortune at the same time] and they have the most gullible bunch of idiots supporting them who had too much faith in Ollie Byrne and were not prepared to believe what everyone told them over the past 5 years.
In May 2005, a group of Shels fans held up a banner with "J€A£OU$" written on it because they had signed 3 Bohs players they couldnt afford. I wonder who is Jealous now.
If what I am hearing is true, next season's fixture list wont contain Shelbourne. I for one wont shed a tear although I will regret not having one last chance to gloat.
As Bohs Partisan says elwewhere, a few more team north and south of the border and we'll have an all-Ireland league before w eknow it, bring it on.
Clear as...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy
Obviously means Shels stripped of league
Derry City won the FAI Cup but not the league, so the FAI Cup runners up shouldn't qualify. Unless... the Setanta committee are promoting City to the league winners spot in lieu of Shels.
A dead heat:)
Shels wont be stripped of the title..Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo......
Logic determines that the place is ours
Typical Irish football:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Fogies
What the **** is logical about the league champions pulling out of a money spinning competition?Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
2 wrongs doesnt make a right..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
In the event of a club(s) qualifying to receive an invitation under two or more of the above listed criteria or a club(s) failing to meet other specified criteria in the regulations, then the invitation(s) shall be issued to the next highest placed club(s) in the final 2006 season Premier Division League championship table.
Going on this Rovers are in. The rules arent been applied properly.
i doubt we'll take it to the courts though..Quote:
Originally Posted by red bellied
were already going down this route with *ahem* he who shall not be named
Maybe we could get a bulk discount on court cases
Thats a joke, two seasons ago Derry had a place in the SSC by finishing 2nd in the league.
They beat UCD in the league cup final but College still didn't get a place in the SSC so why should Pats??
Typical of the league because UCD were under the impression that if (in the very unlikely event at the time) they beat Shels in the semi's of that cup they would take the SSC place as Derry had a league spot, so the SSC committee took on this rule that it would go to next in the league because as we all know UCD (in the FAI's eyes) are not wanted in the league.
So now we see the rule being bent back because a high profile team like Pats are in a position to be called upon.
A messy start already and a ball hasn't even been kicked:rolleyes: :mad:
Surprised by this development.
Shel must be in the absolute soup and unable to even get crediot from their coach company etc in order for them to pull out of this.
Gutted that the group of death won't have one team we can write off now. D'oh !
Shels are pure w@nkers though. Why couldn't this have happened to them before the end of the league season - then we might have had a worthy champion at the end of it.
Because the FAI cup ranks higher. Look at the English situation. Lose the FA Cup to a team in the chamions league, you get UEFA Cup (West Ham in 2006), lose the League Cup final, you get nothing (Wigan in 2006)Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovejam
Here, the FAI Cup is an avenue to Europe. the League Cup isn't so obviously ranks higher...
Exactly I mean Check this outQuote:
Originally Posted by charliesboots
here your trying to justify rule breaking.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Would you get a grip, you haven't seen the rules and you're making assumptions based on rules posted by a Shels fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Here's the FAI's word on it
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=1650
St. Patrick's Athletic, as runners-up to Derry City in the FAI Carlsberg Cup final, will automatically be invited to take their place as per the rules of the competition
Added to that its an INVITATIONAL tournament...
the rules are whatever a commercial company, namely setanta, decide they are, and we can all like it or lump it
in this case i like it!!!!!!!
THE SSC has no equivilent in football here and is bound by their commercial needs, not any other consideration.
And yet, reality says otherwise. :cool: It's a shame for you, it really is :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Setanta first, next stop Europe.
have you seen them?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
we all know the fai to be sooooo competent:rolleyes:
if pats were in rovers situation now youd be baying for the spot.. because they are breaking their own rules
if shels had been stripped of their title i wouldnt mind, cause setanta would not be breaking the rules
but they havent.. so please.. stop being biased
If its only commercial needs then Sligo are in - much better support. Seems like the Setanta committe have stripped Shels of the title if they are using their own rules. Now that is something they cannot do.Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
Is the only place it has been confirmed the Pats website?
Edit - its only the Setanta website now, odd decision considering their logic is "St Pat's were invited to participate as a result - they would have earned a spot in the competition had their defeated Derry City in the FAI Cup final in December ". UCD would have earned a place had they won the league cup.
http://ie.setanta.com/portal/article...257273006d5991
Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
No they don't
Wot, you mean like you have ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Hmmm. Listen I'm shocked Shels pulled out, and I'm shocked we got the spot ahead of you but none of us know the rules so stop trying to get the high ground here.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
What a well thought out arguement. Sligo are the third best supported team in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
http://www.european-football-statist...ent/aveire.htm
Maybe it is the prelude of the FAI revoking Shelbournes title tomorrow morning because they 'lied'.