Record Transfer Bid for Stephen Ward

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Originally Posted by Tazskool

I am not being mean to Bohs at all..but Wolves are a far better club.. the players, the training facilities, stadium and the people he will be playing against.. which will push him up that extra level he needs. Give him till the end of the Wolves season before you see if he can handle it in the fizzypop league or the Premiership next season..

I do think he is a great buy for Wolves.. I will hopefully try and find out when his first game is for Wolves ;)

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are you Mick McCARTHY?

you'd think you'd be the first to know.....

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Buying players and deciding their value is a complicated businnes. It is a skill in itself to be able to see that Kevin Doyle could make it at the highest level in England and that maybe some other players who stood out in the EL would not. Now I dont think for a minute that Reading knew what they were getting when they bought Doyle. Some players flourish in different environments. There have been players who have left the EL and people thought they would certainly make it and they did not for various reasons. It is a strange science judging player potential. Especially when moving to a different country comes into the equation.

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Exactly right which is why paying so little for him meant it was a gamble they would well afford to take, if he hadn't worked out he would have been released or sold on without a huge loss to Reading.

Wolves are far from a rich club these days so £200k (or however much it is) is a sizeable outlay, they will be expecting Ward to make the first XI pretty soon I would imagine.

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Originally Posted by Tazskool

I am not being mean to Bohs at all..but Wolves are a far better club.. the players, the training facilities, stadium and the people he will be playing against.. which will push him up that extra level he needs. Give him till the end of the Wolves season before you see if he can handle it in the fizzypop league or the Premiership next season..

I do think he is a great buy for Wolves.. I will hopefully try and find out when his first game is for Wolves ;)

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People are always being mean to Bohs! Sob!

Incidentally, Bohs have some of the best training facilities going, as they use the elite section in DCU Sport. Can't argue with the rest though. I suppose if we were on the mainland we might be bigger and better.

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Originally Posted by finnpark

Good pice of business. I don't think sean O'Connor is a Fenlon either in that he will not spend the cash foolishly.

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who's Sean O'Connor?

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

Anybody know who is Ward's agent/advisor?

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Ward's agent is his Dad.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

People are always being mean to Bohs! Sob!

Incidentally, Bohs have some of the best training facilities going, as they use the elite section in DCU Sport. Can't argue with the rest though. I suppose if we were on the mainland we might be bigger and better.

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I hate when people use the term mainland

we are all part of the British Isles so I don't see the point of the term

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Originally Posted by wws

we are all part of the British Isles so I don't see the point of the term

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hardly!

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Originally Posted by finnpark

Good pice of business. I don't think sean O'Connor is a Fenlon either in that he will not spend the cash foolishly.

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He was given 10,000 by the Supporters Trust when we were in the First Division to bring in a striker who would score the goals to bring us into the Premeir.
He signed Paul Brown,who scored 0......in other words,he will spend cash foolishly.

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Originally Posted by wws

I hate when people use the term mainland

we are all part of the British Isles so I don't see the point of the term

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I thought Mr Diddley was being sarcastic.

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Originally Posted by wws

I hate when people use the term mainland

we are all part of the British Isles so I don't see the point of the term

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I could argue all day on this. Surely you mean mainland europe?

Oh oh, another football thread turned geographical debate!

Giggedy Giggedy Goo!

British Isles for ever!

I wish i had Micks job.. lol.. Ok.. maybe I'll know 2nd to Mick :P

It will be reported in the local rag here about when his first game will probably be (which is what I meant to say) :P

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Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

You can't be serious.
Crowe = Proven goalscorer.
Ward = Talented but with a large dollop of Headless Chicken.

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From what i've seen of them over the last two or three years(lots of Crowe , less of Ward), it's a has-been v a might be. Gary O'Neill or Jason Byrne would have been better option imo.
Aware of Crowes exploits in Bohs years but don't think he can recapture that.

I agree, I'm not 100% sure of Crowe but in a choice between Crowe and Ward I'd take Crowe.

I assume that wws was being ironic too.
I suppose I should have avoided mainland, but in football terms surely it is appropriate.
A less provocative way of putting it would have been 'anywhere other than a GAA and EPL-obsessed sporting and cultural satellite of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.'
Wonder what Mick McCarthy would make of that? :p

Ward now v Crowe then: Crowe
Warn now and in future v Crowe now and in future: Ward

I just love the way such terms wind up people of a certain (closed) mindset.

Says on teletext that the fee is €250,000 upfront, then €150,000 based on further achievments.

That's a decent sum for what he's shown..

Excuse my ignorance Rogue..was worth every cent so.....

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Originally Posted by wws

I just love the way such terms wind up people of a certain (closed) mindset.

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not really when your dealing with black/white, fact and fiction!

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Originally Posted by Tazskool

f he can handle it in the fizzypop league or the Premiership next season..

I do think he is a great buy for Wolves..

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Have you ever seen him play? :ball: :confused:

Well then the signing of Burns more than makes up for the balls up that was Browne.

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Originally Posted by wws

I just love the way such terms wind up people of a certain (closed) mindset.

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Typical west brit dub attitude. No probs with winding people up about football but when it comes to (lets call it) geography, some of us in the North can become rather irritated. I wouldn't call it a closed mindset either, I'm as European as you can get - I can look past the boundaries of the Dublin/Uk love-in.;)

Folks, once again, the term mainland was used ironically. (I would be first to object if it were used sincerely).
Can we please count to 10 before working up a lather of righteous indignation, however good that might make some of us feel?

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Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

I hope your joking :) Actually i think Connor only ever brought in two players on his own steem one was Brown the other was Burns as far as i know.

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dont worry i am.Dont think he found Burns either,Tim McCann was the other one....oh and the 20 goal a season Alverez

200k up front 150k ad ons and 20% sell on clause thats what everyone around the club is saying

€175k up front, €175k in add ons and a 25% sell-on clause.

Not a bad deal, good to see Bohs looking to the future with a sell on clause and the likes of apperence fees etc....

When his 50 million move to Barcelona/Real/Chelski occurs we'll be quids in...:D

have to say. saw ward play on several occasions last season and i thought he looked the business, except for the fact that he was being played out on the wing anytime i saw him. if one game with bohs a goal down, he was switched up front in last 10 minutes and made more chances than bohs had all game. unlucky not to have scored in that game . if bohs had a better manager last year , i think ward would have had alot better season . couldnt believe he was shifted to the wings to accomodate the two grandads up front !!

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Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns

Not a bad deal, good to see Bohs looking to the future with a sell on clause and the likes of apperence fees etc....

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They learning from the Kevin Doyle transfer. 100k + 10% sell on clause better than 250k straight up transfer fee...

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