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in the words of the immortal dick emery dodge you are awful but i like you
would we not get into europe cause of our league position?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
NO, Pats would take the Cup place.Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
lourdesQuote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
They don't even need to go bust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
They just need not to get a UEFA license, which IIRC, is no longer identical to the FAI Premier License and will not be awarded until April.
Yeah right!!! think you need to look at the AIG points.Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
BLUES at the front of the que, no shoving from the back;)
ah sure - it won't be the first time that's happenedQuote:
Originally Posted by Philly
Remember the Maltese Ice Cream Sellers a few years ago - and that was when they were chucking cash at the venture...
ooh yeah, I like it.:D Can we start a petition (save our co-efficient - Shels out of europe) By the way people, I think its safe to stop using the $ now:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
What about "hel"?
As the $'s have seemingly disappeared...
The $ is well & truely gone.
New She₤฿our₦e spelling to fit the financial situation.
:D
> you either build on sound principles or you are defrauding everyone (theres a load more still doing exactly waht shels done) - hopefully an utter collapse of shels will force change on the rest - real change rather than delaney speak PR búllshít
WWS I hope you are including your own club in that list ... hiking up the gates to sign Ndo and ONeill on 1K a week each seems to be a move straight out of the Ollie managament handbook ...
:rolleyes:
BHS
He most definitely is including Pats as a poorly run clubQuote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
Eh... no.Quote:
Originally Posted by fbtn
15th, ye were, behind Dundalk and ourselves. Galway 649, Waterford 632, Dundalk 595, Harps 593, Cobh 559, that's the way it went. The figures were all on here though I'm too lazy to go linking. But I still have the Mail article. :)
But you're right, it won't matter anyway, and I actually am looking forward to a good scrap with Dundalk and yourselves. Have to have a look at who else is making moves in the market now, though they don't seem to be signing much yet. Cobh look to be leaking a few players, mostly to us. And McTiernan is a good signing for Athlone I think.
Anyway, back to the topic.
Shels may well have to field a largely amateur and semi-professional side next season if there is even going to be a SHELBOURNE in 2008!
is that true. how much have pats put the prices up to? I think Drogheda tried something similar last season and they had to reduce the prices again then.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
Terrace up by a fiver to €15, stand up by a fiver as well I think, to €20. The terrace price represents a 50% increase and the stand a 33% increase. Season tickets up by similar percentages. Everyone will get a free programme, which softens the blow for those who normally buy programmes.
Personally, I can see the need for an increase as the prices haven't gone up since the changeover from old money to the euro, and €15 for the terrace is the same as you pay into nearly every other ground, except Cork and Longford that I can think of. What bugs me is the way it was announced on its own, rather than as part of a wider strategy for improving the club's finances.
I'd be sceptical of the program offer. It's happened a few times in this league (Shels and UCD that I can think of) that a free program was used to soften the blow of price increases, only for the free program to be withdrawn a few matches later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
Also, your second point is a bit soft. Most grounds 15 euro gives you a choice of stand or terraces.
OI That was my idea months ago! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
Honestly wasn't aware of that, thought away fans just got put wherever they get put but home fans had to pay more for the stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Student Mullet
Fair point, I might be thinking as a UCD fan. We generally don't get put into an away section.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
Absolutely shocking!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
Your trying to encourage people around Inchicore to go to games and what do you do? Slap an extra €5 on to the entrance price.
I actually hope your crowds plummet further than last season.
The Drogs tried to do something similar a few years back and there was uproar.
this is nothign like what drogs tried
pats havent increased the ticket prices since 2002 and so an increase was on the cards.
the uproar from the fans was caused by the way it was announced (€5 on individual tickets or atleast 30% increase on season tickets) but with the free programme it works out at only a €2 increase which everyone can live with. Ok some ppl may not what the programme but thats their choice.
With the new signings and the proper explanation of the increase there would not have been this reaction and the club know this and will hopefully learn from it
i dnt give a fck what club it is - i dont have blinker vision like some on this forumQuote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
a badly run strategy is a badly run strategy
those running pats will tell you they are probably paying less than last season - which may even be true
its just re arranging the deck chairs - zero sum game
CCFC have increased adult ground ticket from 13 to 15 euro for next season but having nice new stand makes that justified as well as fact already probably cheapest in the Premier division.
Anyway back on topic. Given Shels current obvious financial plight I have to wonder what budget did they declare for their league licence application & for the IAG process...?
:confused:
PeteQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
as if it wasn't abundantly clear by now that the "license" and the "IAG" process were complete shams.
I really feel for that Maxi fella - far from a nut he was an enlightened soul in more ways than one.
dont want to jump threads but does all this not give substance to danny drews argument that he was treated differently
Hold on a sec... Pat's fans were also saying they got €100,000 from M'well for Molloy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
It's not like it's even decent value for the FACILITIES in Richmond. Nowhere in the ground has a decent unobstructed view!
why are you so worked up about the charges?
most fans i know will pay nothing next year as most season ticket holders are 5 year patrons with another free year still available to them....
if you dnt know the ins and outs
and doesnt effect you bar one or two trips a season
why do you give a fck?
As someone interested in starting to attend games, my previous experience being two Bray Wanderes games when student tickets were €3 a few years back, €20 seems a bit steep. I know clubs have various season ticket packages etc. for regular supporters, but for a neutral (at least until Wexford Youths FC arrive) I think it's a bit prohibitive. Everyone complains about over priced cinema tickets and they're less than a tenner, and you usually know the quality of what your getting and it's warm and indoors!
it doesn't represent value for money and I don't want people associating that with the league I support.Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
The only logical explanation you've come up with is, to pay for a better team.
two players signed over half a dozen leftQuote:
Originally Posted by BohsFans
we're hardly on a bohs like spending splurge are we....
So you're saying Bohs v Pats in Dalymount for €15 a head is value for money but Pats v Bohs in Richmond for €15 a head isn't? Come on...Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFans
Your second sentence is closer to the truth - what drives crowds up or down is success or the lack of it. The cost of paying in to watch it is secondary - note, not unimportant, just secondary.
I still reckon a couple of €2.50 raises since 2002 would've been a better way to go about it, rather than taking four years' backlog of foregone increases all in one go.
(BTW, we're not getting €100k from Motherwell for Molloy - with appearances, etc the fee will increase, but it'll remain in five figures)
Any chance you can start speaking in full sentences so we can understand for sure what the hell you're on about?! Try typing -Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
but having a nice new stand makes that justified as well as the fact that we are already probably the cheapest in the Premier division.
Not too difficult, no?
Going back on topic, I always find it funny when people complain about ticket prices for games. E15 is the cost of three pints, which nobody would complain about really. Go to an English Premier Division game - which many people do - and you're looking at the equivalent of at least E50 and at most double that again for the match alone, before you count flights, accommodation and rip-off travel agencies' fees. The prices aren't exhorbitant, although sometimes people like to use it as an excuse to justify not going to games.
I don't think so. AFAIK Shels passed all criteria to get a licence, which just shows how much of a farce it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
As did CHF which shows what a real farce it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
KOH
Pats fans, you can't divorce the facilities on offer from the price charged. The fact that most clubs haven't put up their prices for ages shows how ludicrous the hike to 15 yoyos was in the first place. Any chance clubs could show enough cop on to raise prices roughly in line with inflation and/or other sectors of the entertainment industry (stop sniggering)
True to an extent - and seeing as we've got the only two-storey jacks in the league, I reckon most people will gladly pay an extra fiver to p1ss on opposition fans from a height. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TommyT
Why are all Pats fans lumped in together? I think its a shocking decision and will do us no good. IN saying that if we're top of the league after 2 months we'll be getting people in...
I'm sorry, I think you lost me. Pats are 7th in the 2006 standings; why wouldn't the slot go to clubs above them? If Derry goes into the CL, then wouldn't this kick Cork into the UEFA Cup, and Sligo (being next in points after CCFC) into Intertoto action to replace Cork? (I'm kind of a soccer newb here, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge