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28/11/2006, 10:43 PM
Flawless

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Originally Posted by green-blood

of course not, he LOVES dundalk doesn't he...

Im not for one minute under any illisuion that GM loves the club, he even staed himself that he had no interest in Football prior to buying Dundalk, To him its business, something which he wont tolerate losses on! - PERIOD
29/11/2006, 7:58 AM
Terry

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Originally Posted by Flawless

Im not for one minute under any illisuion that GM loves the club, he even staed himself that he had no interest in Football prior to buying Dundalk, To him its business, something which he wont tolerate losses on! - PERIOD

he'll be leaving fairly soon so, as everybody knows thats theres no profits in the LOI either -PERIOD!!!!:D
29/11/2006, 9:48 AM
DvB

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Originally Posted by Flawless

Gerry Matthews, Buliderdeveloper/engineer, creator of the Millenium Bridge and Boardwalk on the Liffey in Dublin, ios the owner of Dundalk FC. Prior to him buying the club, he bought Hiney Park, the clubs then training pitch(Something you hoops wouldnt know about!). Upon his acquisition of the club, he acquired the clubs debts, debts which he can deal with whichever way he sees fit.

Case Study : Glazer Takeover of Man Yoo

Malcolm Glazer was up **** Creek in debt when he bought Utd, subsequently passed said debts on to Utd, saw Utd as an easier way of clearing said debts.

Dundalk, had (big)debts, GM felt/feels he can clear the debts quicker in another aspect of his business, which ultimately will leave him free to run the club at a profit.

It should also be noted that by buying the club, GM didnt by the land that Oriel is situated on, that belongs to The Casey Family(ie. Des Casey,UEFA Honorary Vice-President),so although it is on prime decelopment land ,can not be sold. So hes not gonna screw us over that way in the future.

Regarding the Development, this has always been in the pipeline, since thedemolition of the shed and TV Gantry and installation of Our FIFA 2* Surface.

Basically, Th Owner is a Builder who is Minted, and can afford to undertake this project.

What I cant understand is The 35,500 euro bill for buses!!, surely they could buy a bus for cheaper??

Actually i am fully up to speed in relation to the lands that DFC owned (Hiney Park) & leased from the Casey family (Oriel Park), Sean Connolly in his short time at the club briefed me in some detail as to the terms & situations of the ownership & lease details of both sites, to the best of my knowledge Hiney Park has since been sold (albeit to your current sugardaddy) to cover the expenditure of installing the new artificial pitch & associated works.
I'm also fully aware of the proposals for the development of Oriel Park, what i'm also sure of is that your sugardaddy owner despite being minted, despite 'rearranging' (whether that be legal or not) the clubs outstanding debts still appears to be in whatever shape manner or form avoiding paying the bills associated with developing Oriel Park!! An interesting fact conveniently ommitted from all the talk of great things happening at Oriel!

As for your bus bill, I'm not suprised after hearing many a gory detail from board members & employees of the club, its merely one of many unpaid bills, one of which will soon go down the legal route!!

Koh
06/12/2006, 8:56 AM
eamoss

The the plans are up for the Youth Development Centre!
http://www.dundalkfc.com/News/061207_YouthCentre.html
06/12/2006, 6:02 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by eamo

The the plans are up for the Youth Development Centre!
http://www.dundalkfc.com/News/061207_YouthCentre.html

Nice! Built in terrace and media gantry out the front as well.

Are the dressing rooms being moved over that side of the ground as well?

Any time frame on the project?
07/12/2006, 8:12 AM
Magicme

Its funny how like the plans Monaghan have submitted to the FAI that the Dundalk ones are.....was someone in Louth snooping???
07/12/2006, 2:38 PM
Dave drummerboy

Re edit that as ive just got info . Work starting next summer and to be completed within 12 months .
07/12/2006, 3:09 PM
bad mongo

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Originally Posted by Dave drummerboy

Re edit that as ive just got info . Work starting next summer and to be completed within 12 months .

I had a schooch over those plans and I'm sorry but I wouldn't be that confident about them securing the ongoing viability of DFC in Oriel Park in the long term.

They bear an almost uncanny resemblence to the Dalymount SC end proposals and most people with an interest would know how benevolent those plans turned out for Dalymount as a viable footballing venue.

Nice and handy that this facility needs an access road that on any other occasion would never get the go-ahead.

Sorry to be a pessimist, I hope all ground improvements work out for all clubs in the league but I would harbour suspicions on the motivations for this choice of development.
07/12/2006, 5:15 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by bad mongo

I had a schooch over those plans and I'm sorry but I wouldn't be that confident about them securing the ongoing viability of DFC in Oriel Park in the long term.

They bear an almost uncanny resemblence to the Dalymount SC end proposals and most people with an interest would know how benevolent those plans turned out for Dalymount as a viable footballing venue.

Nice and handy that this facility needs an access road that on any other occasion would never get the go-ahead.

Sorry to be a pessimist, I hope all ground improvements work out for all clubs in the league but I would harbour suspicions on the motivations for this choice of development.

:eek:

Stay off the gargle for a while will ya?

They bear absolutely no resemblance to the Dalyer tramway end proposal. FACT!
07/12/2006, 5:41 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by bad mongo

Nice and handy that this facility needs an access road that on any other occasion would never get the go-ahead.
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There is already a laneway there that runs from the carrick road. It just needs to have tarmac laid. Havent seen the bohs plans or the monaghan plans so cant comment if they are similar
07/12/2006, 5:53 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

There is already a laneway there that runs from the carrick road. It just needs to have tarmac laid. Havent seen the bohs plans or the monaghan plans so cant comment if they are similar

we don't have any. We're leaving Dalyer, remember?
07/12/2006, 6:04 PM
Louth4sam

I meant propossed plans. By the way have any plans been drawn up yet for the new stadium?
07/12/2006, 6:44 PM
LukeO

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

I meant propossed plans. By the way have any plans been drawn up yet for the new stadium?

Nothing released so far.

Here's the artist's impression of what the Shopping Centre/Tramway End Delopment would have looked like before we decided to chase the yankee dollar as Richie � hEadhra might say. I don't see how they resemble the Dundalk plans!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...borodevel3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...borodevel1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...borodevel2.jpg
08/12/2006, 11:22 AM
monutdfc

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Originally Posted by bad mongo

Nice and handy that this facility needs an access road that on any other occasion would never get the go-ahead.

Sorry to be a pessimist, I hope all ground improvements work out for all clubs in the league but I would harbour suspicions on the motivations for this choice of development.

hmmm, an access road that would also conveniently provide access to a tract of development land recently acquired by Dundalk's new owner...you're such a cynic;)
08/12/2006, 12:22 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

hmmm, an access road that would also conveniently provide access to a tract of development land recently acquired by Dundalk's new owner...you're such a cynic;)

Did you bother reading my post or like most mons are jealous of your big club neighbours and try to run us down.

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

There is already a laneway there that runs from the carrick road. It just needs to have tarmac laid. Havent seen the bohs plans or the monaghan plans so cant comment if they are similar
08/12/2006, 12:28 PM
Terry

Jasus, take it easy there Louth4sam ! any more comments like that and your head will explode !! :D
08/12/2006, 12:40 PM
Louth4sam

Boooom! :)
08/12/2006, 1:06 PM
Celdrog

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

like most mons are jealous of your big club neighbours and try to run us down.

The way craptown are jealous of your big club neighbours 20 miles down the M1 and try (unsuccessfuly) to run us down??:D :D
Pay your bills first GAA boy and then start giving out about other teams.
08/12/2006, 1:18 PM
monutdfc

So there's a laneway that just needs a bit of tarmac eh? Big difference between a stoney path and access for a couple of hundred apartments - I'd suspect you would need planning permission to upgrade the former to the latter.
08/12/2006, 2:01 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by Magicme

Its funny how like the plans Monaghan have submitted to the FAI that the Dundalk ones are.....was someone in Louth snooping???

will the cows have to be moved from behind the goal, or is it opposite the main stand?:eek:
08/12/2006, 2:43 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

The way craptown are jealous of your big club neighbours 20 miles down the M1 and try (unsuccessfuly) to run us down??:D :D
Pay your bills first GAA boy and then start giving out about other teams.

Why would i be jealous of drogheda your just like wigan or blackburn a small club with money. Your attendances are shocking for a team challanging for the title. Why is it anytime someone from Dundalk posts something someone from drogheda attacks it i think we can see where the jealousy is! 9 leagues and 9 cups vs 1 cup??
08/12/2006, 2:45 PM
Celdrog

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

Why would i be jealous of drogheda your just like wigan or blackburn a small club with money. Your attendances are shocking for a team challanging for the title. Why is it anytime someone from Dundalk posts something someone from drogheda attacks it i think we can see where the jealousy is! 9 leagues and 9 cups vs 1 cup??

2 cups actually and all this century. thats 2-1 to us this century, this millenium in fact :cool:
08/12/2006, 2:48 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

So there's a laneway that just needs a bit of tarmac eh? Big difference between a stoney path and access for a couple of hundred apartments - I'd suspect you would need planning permission to upgrade the former to the latter.

So there is a couple of hundred appartments going in beside oriel park now. :rolleyes: Where did you hear this? And why would you need planning permission to tarmac a lane in your own property?
08/12/2006, 2:51 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by Celdrog

2 cups actually and all this century. thats 2-1 to us this century, this millenium in fact :cool:

So during Dundalk's lowest point in their history Drogheda has only won one more trophy in their most successful period? Hmmm doesnt say much for your club then :p
08/12/2006, 3:52 PM
monutdfc

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

So there is a couple of hundred appartments going in beside oriel park now. :rolleyes: Where did you hear this? And why would you need planning permission to tarmac a lane in your own property?

Well Matthews didn't buy Hiney Park for his kids to play in, did he?
And yes, if you want to develop a site then access is a key part of the planning process.
08/12/2006, 4:24 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

Well Matthews didn't buy Hiney Park for his kids to play in, did he?
And yes, if you want to develop a site then access is a key part of the planning process.

There is already an entrace into hiney park as well as the laneway to oriel so whats your point? You obviously dont know the area or Dundalk's plans so why do you keep making guesses and asumptons based on no knowlede whatsoever.
09/12/2006, 6:49 AM
CollegeTillIDie

Good luck to Dundalk with the developments. Its nice to see them back from the brink of extinction a few short years ago.
09/12/2006, 10:43 AM
mcgonigle

Nice to see a supportive comment for once, thanks CTID
09/12/2006, 10:47 AM
forza

Does Matthews run that bus company based in Inniskeen?? A big Dundalk AFAIK so cant see why he'd want to send the club down the tube :ball:
10/12/2006, 12:45 AM
passerrby

better to have cows at one end than ass,s at both ends
11/12/2006, 8:47 AM
Magicme

The Cows will be rehomed when the new housing estate is built on the hill anyway but no, our development is opposite the main stand beside the Astro Parks.

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