Very poor Dodge, at least wws puts a bit of time and effort into his efforts. ;)
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[QUOTE=WeAreRovers;575806]"Rovers have probably the best supporters in the country" Paul Osam, 13/11/2006.
Ozo publicly utters the great unspoken truth that bitter fans of smaller clubs refuse to acknowledge. ;)
And carlsberg probably have the best beer but we all know it tastes ****e.
1. Shels
2. Bohs
3. Pats
4. Rovers
5. UCD
6. Drogheda
7. Cork City
8. Derry City
9. Longford Town
10. Sligo Rovers
11. Galway Utd
12. Finn Harps
seems a good balance of teams with nice grounds, good set of fans, and geographically well spread (hence why I'd include Finn Harps and Galway). Too many Dublin sides really, but the four bigger teams are just traditional sides and should be included (+ good for Shels to have some derby games) and UCD's just a charming enough team and should not be let out.
Ideally... Dundalk, Drogs, Rovers, Bohs, Pats, Cork, Derry, Sligo, Harps, Galway, Limerick, Athlone
Semi-Realistically... Dundalk, Drogs, Rovers, Bohs, Pats, Cork, Derry, Sligo, Harps, Galway, Shels, Waterford/Bray
Fair... top 10, plus Rovers, plus winners of Waterford/Dundalk/Galway.. crazy, I know.
Yeh, its a bit harsh on Shels, but any of the clubs listed above would attract at least as many punters as Shels, without ****ing the rest of us off to the same extent.
Yeh, its a bit harsh on UCD, but for me a club is about its supporters... and I think UCD have some fantastic supporters... unfortunately you could fit them all in a phonebox.
1. Derry
2. Cork
3. Drogheda
4. Shamrock Rovers
5. Bohs
6. Sligo
7. UCD
8. Longford
9. Galway
10. Pats
11. Finn Harps
12. Shels (didn't want to put them in but had to in the end)
I'd like Galway and Harps in it but it should be
Shelbourne
Derry City
Cork City
Drogheda U
Sligo Rvrs
UCD
St Pat's
Longford
Bohemians
Bray Wndrs
Shamrock R
and either Galway, Dundalk or Waterford (who ever wins the playoffs)
sorry if i touched a nerve conor H, and im not an idiot im intitled to my opinion. ya galway do get results but they arnt playing very good football. the game last week was shocking and ye got a few lucky breaks to beat a weakened ramblers side as the tg4 cameras showed. galway had very good teams before, but a few wins against ramblers and rovers doesnt make ya as good as some of ye galway supporters think.:)
Well the whole Premier and First Division FAI/Uberleague project may be thrown into flux if.... the clubs with serious financial problems do not survive the winter. I have mentioned this before, but it is possible that next season their maybe one 18 team League , from the clubs that survive the winter!
Ack, I can't see the league losing 3 members this winter, maybe one or two but not 3!
Anyway, my ideal premier would be:
Harps, Derry, Sligo, Shels,
Bohs, Shamrock Rovers, Longford, Waterford,
Cork, UCD, St Pats, Drogheda,
Dundalk, Galway, Bray, Athlone.
Yes, that's 16 rather than 12, but it's what I'd like to see. I left Limerick out as they're in a bit of a mess at the minute, jumped Athlone over Cobh because of their new ground which is probably harsh.
Never called you an idiot.I'm aware a few wins over Rovers and yourselves don't make us a very good team.But 25 out of 30 points means we beat more than a few of teams.Whatever you say you can't argue that's the sign of a good team.i've watched most UTD games this year.Up until we got knocked out of the Cup we were playing awaful football.Ironically our run of good results and good football started against Cobh.
I like the 16 team top Division Idea. It's League football in it's purest sense.
Two rounds home and away 30 games ideal. I'd even find 18 teams and 34 games acceptable. Decent Leagues like Serie A and Primera Liga have had these numbers in the recent past.
Brings me back wistfully to 1984/85 last time we had one . Incidentally the 16 clubs in the League at the time were
Athlone Town,Bohemians, Cork City, Drogheda United, Dundalk, Finn Harps, Galway United, Home Farm, Limerick City, Longford Town, Shamrock Rovers, St.Patrick's Athletic, Shelbourne, Sligo Rovers, U.C.D., Waterford United.
But we have moved on from there. If the FAI can find four or six more clubs to join the EL and make a decent sized First Division.
Cork City could in a worst case scenario disappear; Shelbourne could also in a worst case scenario disapper; and Limerick are currently teetering on the brink.
I wouldn't be for a 16 team league. There'd be so much meaninglessness between the European spots and relegation. The smaller the league the less clubs that have nothing to fight over in the last third of the season. It's different in top European leagues where European places can extend down to 7th or 8th given the right circumstances.
I like to see the top division with 16 teams too but at the moment their isn't enough clubs in Ireland, maybe in few years when this 3rd tier of Irish football is up and running more clubs will be able to make the step up. But at the moment it's not workable