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live 95 is a waste of time there only interested in rugby you'd get more from tom ryan on the local station
All local media outlets should be contacted because you want to raise as much profile about this as possible. Enough said!Quote:
live 95 is a waste of time there only interested in rugby you'd get more from tom ryan on the local station
Whats counter productive is that attitude. You have an opportunity to gather momentum behind the Supporters Club. You should be using the local media's coverage on the club to announce a meeting, not just for members but for the general public. Also the supporters club should be issuing an official letter to the local media highlighting and addressing a number of concerns that the public should be made aware of. You should not be sitting on your hands on this. I'm in London and I'm contacting people, but your in the thick of it. You and the Supporters Club should be proactive. We need to see action from you guys. Don't be afraid to ask for help either (If I can do anything just let me know) but the Supporters Club should be taking point on this.Quote:
Nempton mate you know aswell as I do a meeting would be counter-productive due to a lack of people turning up
lads face the facts limerick is goin downhill for years there are better run clubs in junior football fairview and pike for example didnt limerick not run to pike a couple of years ago plus them to clubs have better pitches can ye explain how them to clubs are better equipped financelly than limerick?:D :D
Just on the topic of Junior clubs v Limerick FC.
Most Junior clubs in Limerick have there own Grounds.
That alone makes them a better CLUB than Limerick FC.
Most have school boy/girl teams also something that Limerick don't.
Alot have PROPER changing rooms and some with bars.
Lets be reallistic here lads, None of Limericks players have been pred at Limerick FC and won't in the future it seems, all from Junior clubs.
how bad would it be if limerick fc did not exist ?
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Originally Posted by Goals4fun
TBH it would be a great shame. The limerick area deff needs a team in the EL.
Two things. First, can those who believe LFC is a laughing stock, would like the club to go bust, think it is a disgrace etc etc ad nauseum please p1ss off. Your opinions are noted. Thanks for them. But they contribute nothing in the context of trying to save/deal with the decline of the club. All those who said it was a matter of time - thanks, you were right, you told us so. Happy. Now get lost unless you have somethign constructive to add.
Second, some of us have very short memories. The low point of the club in the last few years was going to Bray with a keeper for striker, calling around junior clubs begging for a loan of corner flags or playing in front of 50 miserable souls in a ground borrowed from Pike. These all happened in the previous administration, and whatever about personal views of DD it is incontrovertible that without his intervention we would have no club now. We have a side that is competitive (when at full strength in the division). We dwell on what happens in our club - similar happens in other eL clubs all the time but we think we're special.
Anyway, what to do now. I think DD's position is very understandable. I think the club is not going bust in the sense that it can't pay its way but rather that without a lease we cannot develop the ground which means on-field attempts at promotion are pointless and so with two years left on a lease it is clear that the club has no future without it. The actions of the priest in all this are disgraceful - but whats new there.
I think it is as important as ever now that fans of the club get together and discuss these developments - IN A POSITIVE WAY! There may be a need for a Supporters Trust rather than a supporters club. Such a meeting should be held at a weekend so that non-Limerick based fans can attend. It also gives more scope for attendance etc. IMO there is no alternative backer - who in their right mind would go anywhere near the club without the lease? Ideas? thoughts? A 400 club like Rovers? Can we get someone from Rovers to come to our meeting to discuss how it could be set up etc?
Who cares. We wish we had a clubhouse. We wish we had a schoolboys team. We wish we had our own grounds. We don't. We have to deal with reality. Whether the junior scene is better run than LFC or whether it isn't is completely irrelevant. I have my view of junor football in the city. Others have their's - it adds nothing to the current concerns. Can we leave it there. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by smellyfeet
Obviously by asking the question it means nothing to you. But the club means a lot to a small group of very dedicated fans. It also is an important aspect of the lives of a lot of fathers and sons and families who attend matches week in and week out. The potential of a club like LFC to drastically improve how the city is seen in the rest of ireland is immense. Can you imagine having the Munster rugby team and a top competitive football side in the city? We are a long long way away from that - but mark my words if the club folds the city will regret it.:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goals4fun
So...there is no democracy to be allowed in your world? People are entitled to their opinions and it is hard not to be critical or smug when the club has been denegrated so badly by so few. You have no right to tell people to p1ss off from remarking on this issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
He's running away and getting away with it by making the whole priest issue his scapegoat. He made false promise after false promise-where did the three cars go that I paid money to have a chance of winning go?-. Yes he did save the club and deserves credit for it, but he deserves far more in the way of a good horse-whipping for the way he treated it, its supporters and the media ever since. Please, don't refer to the 'previous administration' when it is anything but....investigate a little deeper and see who is actually running the club and advising Mr Drew.Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
Er, that's not what democracy means. I think you're referring to free speach... which means exactly what the forum mod and ultimately Dahamsta want it to on here. Anyway, just my €0.02, but the people who want to point and laugh can do so in the eL subforum version of this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
I've read someone suggest that this is a ploy to put pressure on certain people regards the lease. Anyone care to comment on that?
Leaving aside the democracy/free speech difficulty, I absolutely 100% accept that anyone has a right to express their opinion and I'll back that to the hilt no matter how inane and wrong their opinion. The point I was making was that the harping about how the club is a shambles etc etc is an exaggeration and is also irrelevant. Your view on why things got to where they are depends on when you start the clock - when Grace took over, when Joe got the lease, when MOS appointed a commercial director or when DD first burst into a dressing room. That is a lovely but academic argument - we are where we are. Some on here obviously care about the club and want to work on a future for it. Schadenfreude is not welcome in the current situation. :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
I wouldn't be surprised but at this stage the existing lease is running out and the club have no alternative potential ground. Also, it is easy to see a situation where the threat to pull the plug is a credible one. And I'm not sure we can take the chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
The situation we need to avoid is one similar to three seasons ago when we were touch and go regarding a licence and players, who rightly were concerned about the club moved on and we were left scrambling for players two weeks before the start of the season. If the club has a huge question mark hanging over it will Purcell, Kelliher, Heffernan, Barrett, Lester etc hang around? Or would another club take the chance to sign up a handy free agent?:(
i for one would be sad to see the club fold and will back any initiative that supporters might have to save it
Sweet Jesus :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
There isn't a better word for it.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Ive just wasted my time reading 3 pages of complete bull**** and I still dont know were and when this supporters meeting is on, you people are a joke, organise something and stop talking ****** please
See other Thread the one with the big sign next to it and EMERGENCY MEETING IN BLOCK CAPITALS ;) :pQuote:
Originally Posted by lfc at heart
A time and date can't be set until we get confirmation from people wanting to attend
It'll have to be within the next ten days though
(See Nempton, I've taken your point and am being alightly pro-active :) )
Don't get me wrong, i don't like to see Limerick FC in the state it is in at the moment, i was just stating a point. It would be the worst thing ever to happen in Limerick sport if Limerick FC were to go out of business as they are in the league for so long now...I think that Limerick have been through so much in the last 10 years that it would be unimaginable for them to fold now.Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
I know alot of the players that play for Limerick and it would be a shame for them aswell not to be able to represent their home town in the national league....Hopefully something can be done to SAVE LIMERICK FC.:ball:
You'll be at our meeting aswell so??Quote:
Originally Posted by smellyfeet
And you'll bring a couple of mates?? :)
First off.
Remember we are being asked to take Danny Drew at his word on this, the very man who believes it is a good idea to pass spectacular lies to the national media in order to get publicity for the club. Hiring Brian Kerr are we? Jason McAteer, Curtis Fleming?
Secondly,
Danny Drew stepping down does not necessarily mean the death of the club.
Lets look at the characters that have been attracted to this club, look at their records and note the one consistant has been incompetence.
Ask yourself why someone like JP McManus invests in sport throughout limerick and ignores our club repeatedly. Why would any sensible human being simply give this club money when its history is dogged with rogues and money pinchers, when lotto monies disappear, and financial records remain private and unaccountable. This club has been run into the ground by mercilessly greedy individuals and so the people we've always needed to steer this club upwards have kept their distance.
If Limerick does fold I believe there is the opportunity for individuals to invest properly in a fresh start for a Limerick team, one without the strings attached and hangers-on that Drew has had to contend with throughout his reign. Start again from scratch under a new name if needs be. If this club folds it will hurt but we will not remain unrepresented for long, I firmly believe that. One Season without would be a small price to pay for a fresh approach by intelligent people with a proper vision and furthermore the capacity to delivery on it. We have never had that with people like Joe Young and crew continuing to hang onto this club like a tick on a mangy dog.
It doesn't matter whether you believe Drews word or not if he wants to walk, he'll walk
Why go out of the eague when we don't have to? I take it you'll be presenting us all with your ideas for a bright new future within the next couple of weeks?
For those talking about starting afresh, it's the worst possible time to drop out of the league. From 2008 a third tier will be added to the LOI with the only opportunity for promotion to win a playoff. It could be a long way back to senior football for a new club.
THAT'S what I've been trying to tell everyone :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Why spend the end of every couple of seasons with the threat of dropping out of the league and folding, after watching the people who run it mishandle is again and again? If we did get out of this league it offers the opportunity of investing in a club without parasites. Stay and it will only be as it alway is, a stay of execution, with incompetent people messing it up time and time again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
And how long now have we lay rotting in this division? Regardless of what happens we still need to gain promotion on merit, be it in our current state or in a new capacityQuote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Well nows your chance to have a say, get a voice, interested??Quote:
Originally Posted by thelimerick
There's a few problems. How do you even get into the A Championship? Will they allow newly formed entities to slot in there like Dublin City and Cork City have in the past or will they only allow clubs in through the Intermediate/Junior levels? If you then get in there, how can your club prosper playing Premier Division reserve teams and other minnows? Can you get out of there fast with the narrow promotion opportunities? Also, UL or a junior club could step in there and fill the void before you get your act together. Limerick should try to hang on and stay where they are. Bad as it seems it could be a while before you even got back in at that level.Quote:
Originally Posted by thelimerick
Whats the plan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Dropping out simply would not be an option because however honourable and good peoples intentions are, it would simply be too much of an ask to get things back up and running from scratch.
Survival at any cost is the key, even if it means playing 11 unpaid amateurs every week and losing each game if necessary. This club has been on its knees before and there are enough good people out there to make sure it doesn't go bad again.
At present................am.......................lo ts of hot air followed by drinks and a pool tournament sound ok???Quote:
Originally Posted by thelimerick
Besides I thought you were the man with the plan :p
Nah, get together and maybe look at a supporters trust/400 club style thing? Raise awareness among the local public, bombard the politicians, generally rabble rouse, you know stuff like that
Sorry but can't say i will. Don't live in the area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
But honestly wish the lot of you involved at the club the best
as their are good people involved in the club as i used to play
their many moons ago myself and enjoyed it alot.:ball:
Did you go pro afterwards??Quote:
Originally Posted by smellyfeet
Don't have a spare million lying around do you :confused: :p
Nope on both accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
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Originally Posted by smellyfeet
There's Plan A gone out the window
Well then we'd better start putting plan B in place and get you out on the streets pimping your wares :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Sorry Joe buts its exactly this attitude that has had this club shuffling its feet like a Leper to the grave for decades now. Keep it propped up and patched, on the cheap, just to survive. Well sorry, but thats not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
This club has being dying for too long, you say there's enough good people out there to make sure it doesn't go bad again, its bad now Joe, its been bad for as long as I can remember.
We need a fresh start. One season out and a Limerick Football Club will be much more attractive a proposition than in its current state with the same old problems and faces causing them. What kind of proposition is our club now to anyone, investors, advertisers, players, managers, supporters???
We're a bad joke Joe. It's time for it to stop once and for all.
I think you will see a lot of clubs having to cut back on the squad tho next year and alot more U21's will b playing on the senior squads to help ease the cash burden so it would do Limerick no harm to look at this option.
Take a few years of batterings and get the money together to put the club on a better footing financially and then who knows.
I have to disagree here. If Limerick FC drops out for one season, then I will bet you any amount that it won't be back at all. The foot has to be kept in the door, otherwise the door will shut in the face of the club. What tiny bit of interest there is at the moment will disappear with no club being in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by thelimerick
Dropping out is simply not a viable option.
Nail on head. If we go we're gone for the forseeable future, it won't be a simple case of waving a wand and sorting things out (with no income or players either it should be noted) and then strolling back in at our leisure. We have to stay in the league at all costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap