Yawn..........
The Steering Wheel was attacked
People were hurt, regulars reacted to this
Derry and Drogheda brought as many if not more fans, why weren't they attacked??
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With everything as it is at this moment in time, what calibre of manager and players do we expect to attract to this club for next season? Seriously lads when are things going to change here? Season after season its behind the scenes drama's, f**k ups and complete incompetence.
I don't buy this whole football will never compete with rugby in this town type of thinking. If our club was run effectively the potenial is huge. What I find so frustrating is we all continue to put up the incompetence of those with the power to change it.
Well you and me are good friends but you're going to have to include me in the list of people who's dimissing them as mindless filth. If two sets of scumbags go for each other (as happened the first time) then both sets are mindless filth. Just because one side wins doesn't make them any nobler or better. Following on from that if a group of people deliberately attacks another group of people because they follow the same football team as a third group of people that you don't like then it's quite fair to add the word cowardly to our 'mindless filth' label. This has nothing to do with Limerick FC though, the incident happened well away from the ground and there were no Limerick fans involved anyway.
As for the people who are defending the steward... spare me. He made no attempt to get the drunken sot off the pitch and somebody said, "You're a credit to your bib you are, doing a great job". He turned around and punched the guy. He was arrested and quite rightly so.
Also unless people want me to lock this thread they'd do well to remember the attack the post not the poster mantra that this site operates under. There will be no more warnings.
The first Rovers game, which was what brought them all out on Friday
Seriously have you ever seen half them at a Limerick game before in your life?
Just to clarify once and for all the thrust of part of my argument within this thread for the more dim-witted among you................
If the scum element of Shamrock Rovers support had been attacked outside the ground by the local heads I would shed no tears for them. I make no apologies for this
I'd have 2 agree. Seeing that you're so mad about calling a spade a spade, tough s**t if someone else calls a spade a spade and you don't like it.... Here's calling a spade a spade;
1. The people involved last Friday are filth/scum/vermin. You happen to know some of them? - congrats, you know some scumbags :rolleyes: .
2. Hogan Park and surrounding area is a s**thole - get over it.
3. Our club is a joke at the moment and is in a worse state than before Drew took over.
4. You're arguement is no stronger than mine regarding the rovers scum/steward hitting incidents. There're a lot of scumbags attending games REGULARLY at Hogan Park. I've witnessed stewards being abused on several occasions, by lads who have no interest in the actual game taking place. All I said was I'm not surprised that a steward finally lashed out, and it will happen again. These security guys are basically bouncers. If you abused a bouncer like that in a club he'd take you outside and kick seven shades of s**t out of you. I have no sympathy for anyone who dishes out abuse/smart arse comments, then can't understand it when they get a box in the face in return. Fair enough the steward deserved to get arrested, but someone probably deserved to get punched as well. You're talking about improving the league as a whole? Kicking the s**t out of Rovers fans will not do that. Removing/banning scumbags from going to games and getting in to grounds will. Because for every piece of filth who is at a game dishing out abuse, you're loseing 2/3 and families of supporters.
Jesus Christ man, read my posts before you criticise them.
Where did I say the steward was hired by Limerick?
Where did I involve the honour of Limerick FC in the thread?
I said, and all I said, was that any mindless violence is wrong, in my opinion.
You have seen me criticise something and just jumped all over it without even bothering to read it.
If you want to post idiotic comments here without even reading whats gone before, then expect me to give you this response.
(I did my best to attack only the post.)
I suppose your a "realer" fan then me, ya :rolleyes:
1. Wasn't really looking for congratulations but........erm........thanks i guess??
2. I've no need to get over it, have a read again
3. Nonense. Short memory
4. Ya I've noticed the huge family support we once had drop away to nothing :rolleyes:
While we're all calling spades, spades I don't think your involved enough to comment on anything to do with the club at the mo tbh
The absolute cheek of you. Your seen up in Rathbane about as often as silverware yet you feel you can come on here playing the poor victimised real fan whos club is being ruined by the like of me??
Go away and cop on to yourself
I honestly feel sorry for you. Your posts so far are on a par with fchammer and jebus for being so childish and inaccurate it is beyond belief. We are tax dodging?:rolleyes:
Was talking to the limerick fan selling scarves beforehand and he accurately predicted that there would be extra scum in the shed cos we were in town.
We were in the spotted dog from half 6 and there was no trouble. Ask the barman there.
The cops did a good job after but a window in our car was smashed in by a boulder. How it missed one of the lads is a miracle. I'm not blaming the genuine Limerick fans but surely you have to admit at this stage that rathbane has been a complete failure and its time to move on somewhere else?
That question is addressed to normal limerick fans not the WUMs already mentioned in this post.
KOH
It seems a little co-incidental that the only incidents that have occured have been those with Shamrock Rovers fans. This could be down to a number of factors, but how the management of the club can be held accountable for them is laughable in the extreme. Limerick clashes with Shamrock Rovers in the late 70's, early 80's were legendary for the pitch battles that took place in Garryowen and down Mulgrave Street and perhaps it is the war stories passed on by people who remember them that ignites a little spark in the moronic heads of these animals-mere mention of Shamrock Rovers equates to "riot" in the heads of these people.
Hogan Park in its current state does not help. It is a free and easy access point for such behaviour, and to be situated next to an estate like Southill and a pub like the Steering Wheel is simply asking for trouble. The club need to be out of there, or have it seriously re-developed and a full-time head of security appointed if it is to stay.
Stronger enforcement from the Gardai is also required, and examples made of these people in every available media outlet is also needed. None of us will ever really understand what goes on inside the heads of these animals. And I for one, don't want to know....:(
Was wondering where the hell you were all morning :p
Were you in the longue?? Myself and jebus were in the bar from about a quarter past six, sorry I missed you now :eek:
The Rathbane thing has been done to death, it's all well and good suggesting a move but where to?
Also it's worth pointing out that that area is gradually improving,(believe it or not) it's a lot better now than it was say ten years ago and there's further improvement on the way
And don't feel sorry for me NY, it's genuinely Ok in my little bubble
Must have missed the longue. Is that a limerick thing?!
Three of us were at the counter obviously without colours.
If the area is improving I'd like to see how. My first visit down there was in 1990 and back then there was a wee bar in the ground. Burnt down by the locals (quel surprise). That's not improvement.
A visit to rathbane shows how much of a joke the UEFA licensing is.
Only way out is to go to a green field site or else go back to the Market's Field.
Have to admire anyone who goes to rathbane though. No blame can be attached to any barstooler in limerick.
KOH
What are you on about here, 'cos you've lost me completely??? "Realer" - where'd you get that from??
How the fcuk would you know? When I'm in Hogan Park I either watch the games by myself, or I watch them with a guy who is a garda from Newcastle West. I don't hang around with any of the gob****es in the shed, 'cos that's all they are, anyone from the now defunct S.C. or anyone else for that matter. The only people I've any respect for off here are JohnD and Gael353, and they're nearly always either doing something around the ground, or in Johns case he's about the only non prat when he's in the shed, apart from SLK until he left it. And where did I say that the "club is being ruined by the like of you". Never said that, unless you consider yourself a scumbag?
And by the way, I've been going to Limerick games and the s**thole that is Rathbane/Jackman Pk/Pike Rvs SG since the late eighties and long before this forum even existed. So I don't need fools like you telling me how often I should be attending to have a qualified opinion. With your 75 games in two years - what do you want a fcukin medal of honour? Class A tit, nail on the head there NY Hoop :rolleyes:
just a point of view from an outsider, i am definately not a regular supporter of Limerick but i go to a handfull of games during the season and generally look out for the results of the team.
I was there on Friday night with my two nephews and after what went on it will be a long time before i return and even longer before my nephews see another limerick game, the scenes on friday night were frightening to say the least.
I also attended the Garryowen and Shannon game over the weekend, again big rivalry and a big crowd in attendance in a venue close to another notable estate and yet no trouble, one of the many reasons why soccer (of which i am a big fan of) will never eclipse rugby in limerick.
You can slag Munster for the bandwagon fans and the fair weather supporters they get, but the fact remains a Munster game in Thomond Park is alot more family friendly and they will continue to generate big interest and crowds as long as this remains.
It's been done to death yet we accept it along with all the other problems attached to the club and so it continues. Rathbane is not working, its as simple as that. An alternative could be arranged, even in co-operation with the council who I believe would be willing to work with the club. It won't happen however because this is Drew's party and the stuborn one will only do it his way.
We don't even know the simpliest things going on at the club at the moment, there is absolutely no channel of information or contact from the club to supporter.
We were supposed to have the new jersey available and being worn at the Derry match along with sponsorship. We don't, and lets face it the way this club is being run, sponsorship, and therefore income, will illude us like we have lepresy. Lads the club is being run into the ground by a man with money and dedication, YES, but competence, NO. We're paying 12euro to watch a at best Limerick youth team being beaten by average teams, all staged in Hogan Park, a complete dump that alway has and continues to attract scumbags, to the clubs detriment. This incompetence has dogged the club for decades, the rest of "sporting limerick" has moved forward and we're still stuck fighting for scrap points in the graveyard of Irish football in a kip.
Enough is enough.
Fans takeover looks like the only way out. Or we could come back to rathbane in another decade and the same sh1t again.
KOH
My my hasn't this thread gotten out of hand since last night!! Anyway to answer your question lim til I die I was just passing on the information about a Rovers-Limerick pre-arranged meet up as was told to me on the night by one of the stewards whilst I was watching the fights go on, don't know if its true or not, but there you go.
And our old friend NY Hoop was in the Spotted Dog whilst we were having a drink there, it's a shame we missed out on having you bring your witty comments to our table Hoop, (remember when he changed Lim Til I Die to Lim Til He Dies)my how we could have laughed. Maybe I'm being nostalgic but I long for the days I was on your petty 5 year old list of people you ignore on this site because at least then I didn't have to tune in to your idiotic attempts at arguing
You know a garda - congratulations :rolleyes:
No, I was just wondering what constitutes a real fan :confused:
Gob****e, fool, class A tit, prat, ouch that all really hurts :rolleyes:
Would you lose your respect for gael and SLK if I told you I consider them close mates. Because you know I could probably stop hanging around with them since I obviously don't fit in with your view of what a football fan should be. Maybe I could stop going to games?? We can get a screen put up in front of the Shed??
My only regret at leaving the club will be that I've been damned unworthy of you
I think your signature sums you up Lim till i Die.
Your posts are phenomenal.anyone who reads over this thread will see you are talking complete inane rubbish.
Fair play on going to that many games but that doesn't give you the devine right to talk through your arse.
This thread makes for interesting but depressing reading. Lim Till I Die's advocation of Violence on Whoever is sad. In Fact some of the best posts are from non Limerick Fans.What is it with Lims that we can see how F***ing sad
things are ? Face Reality boys
I have never experienced bad vibes at a football match in all my life like last Friday. This includes the Edinburgh Derby and Spurs v West Ham for example. I have never felt so depressed after a match or in this case, during a match before.
The Scum element was out in Numbers, although we have quite a few of them in our midst all year. They had no interest in the game and just wanted to wreak havoc. The Stewarding as normal was pathetic and Bottles, shoes etc were left on the pitch.
It kicked off big time afterwards and this included Firearms for Jesus Sake :confused: from reports on Live 95FM. I am Glad that I cannot make the last game of the season. I have no wish to return to this S***hole of a ground located in a S*** part of town.
To be Honest this was one of the last nails in the the Limerick FC Coffin. This Club HAS NO FUTURE imo if we do not get out of this kip. We will never get families coming to the games, nor good Players nor a Manager. I was slagged off earlier this season for outlining People's fears. Well They came through. Rathbane is Dead and Limerick FC could very well be if we dont move Now.
John
I was going to say that its in other threads where you have proved how much of a prat you are, but then you went and said that me passing on a piece of information and stating that I don't know it to be true or false is WUMing? NY Hoop go away and grow up for yourself, or better still **** off back to that pathetic 'Ultras' website for yourself :p oh wait did that make me a dreaded WUM?
There you have it.
Well done John i agree with everything you've said in your post there.
ok lads this question has nothing at all to do with ye're arguement but whats a WUM?
can't remember what it stands for, but it's basically someone who tries to stir it with his remarks. Hence I don't know where NY hoop is coming from (possibly his own arse) when he says that me saying that I heard from a guy that something happened and I don't know if its true or not is WUMing
I'm a prat for pointing out what happened and that you have no future in rathbane? Listen son when your own fans can see you are talking through your rectum its time to go away.
You know damn well that there was never any proposed "meet up" between the fans of both clubs. That is WUMming.
Your defense seems to be to slag off all and sundry when you dont want to debate.
Great post johnd. Shame there arent more limerick fans like you.
KOH
I think tho if any fans could put up with Limericks local thugs its Rovers. 80 percent of them are hooligans and i think the locals in Limerick could of came out it worse off if it kicked of both set of supports.
Thread about to be locked for descending to a level of childish namecalling that staggers me. I'm going to grant myself the last word as moderator and that will be that.
I will then have to spend more time than I should have to dishing out warnings to all and sundry, adults to a man who appear to have forgotten the basic rule of this forum. Attack the post not the poster. Cheers lads, I can think of nothing I'd rather do on a Monday evening than clear up this mess.
I've no intention of going through it and deleting the bad parts, we'll just let it stand as a testement to internet stupidity.
As for my final word... Friday night reflected very badly on both Limerick FC and the city as a whole. The excrement responsible are unlkely to be seen in Rathbane until the next time that Rovers are in town. The damage is done though, the club's name has been dragged through the mud and the city will continue to turn it's back on us. A complete and utter shambles from start to finish. Then to have to wade through this rubbish as well...