Reckon With the news of injuries and all things considered this is the team I would like to see this Sat
GK: Kenny
RB : Finnan
LB : Kilbane
CB: O' Brien
CB: Dunne
RM: McGeady
LM: Duff
CM: O' Shea
CM: Miller
ST: Keane (c)
ST: Doyle
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Reckon With the news of injuries and all things considered this is the team I would like to see this Sat
GK: Kenny
RB : Finnan
LB : Kilbane
CB: O' Brien
CB: Dunne
RM: McGeady
LM: Duff
CM: O' Shea
CM: Miller
ST: Keane (c)
ST: Doyle
---------------Kenny-----------
Finnan----Dunne---O'Brien---Kilbane
McGeady--O'Shea--Miller----Duff
------Keane---Morrison-----
Doyle isn't fully healthy, so this way we can give him a rest before the Czech game. Bring him on for the second half for Morrison if it's 0-0 or god forbid we're down.
That's the team I think he'll pick and probably as good as we can put out. O'Shea and Miller will really have to up their games. We simply have to have a fully effective midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Sudden surge of optimism
I actually think that's not a bad team...at least Miller can pass the ball forward and we would have width on both flanks along with the unpredictability factor...
If (and thats a big IF) he picks that team I think we'll win comfortably in Cyprus and could get something out of the Czech match...
Yeah that should be the team and its not that bad one. In many ways its a better team that the German game with the exception of Morrisson for Doyle.
Cheers for the endorsements lads. I wrote a letter to the FAI demanding that Stan be sacked. Along with it I sent in my application for manager, citing your posts as recommendations.
One thing I am interested in is the fact that O'Shea is listed among the defenders in the squad, and on eleven-a-side this quotation in particular drew my attention:
"With John O’Shea expected to be shunted into the back four, midfield is an area which looks short on cover, but Staunton has resisted the public clamour to recall experienced Everton star Lee Carsley and will not be making any further additions to the squad."
So who knows what could happen at this stage. I rate O'Brien as a better defender than O'Shea, but his lack of first team football may be a concern for Stan, and if he drops to defense, that leaves things quite shaky in my opinion with O'Shea and Killer back there. Fine for Cyprus, any team we put out should do the job against them, but against the Czechs that selection could be the end of us.
would you guys risk Kilbane at LB? Maybe he'll play Finnan at LB, St Ledger at RB and that way he can keep O'Shea and Kilbane (the dream team MF pairing) in the centre.
If Keane does not score in Cyprus he should be dropped to the bench for Wednesday and Bling Bling and Doyle put up front. When is the Last time he had a good game for Ireland? Drop him- he needs to wake up! A World class striker creates Goals - Keane has to be handed them in the 6yd box!
Kenny
Finnan
O'Shea
O'Brien
Dunne
McGeady
Kilbane
Miller
Duff
Doyle
Keane (C)
If McPhail was in the squad I'd have him starting ahead of Miller
Would you not have Kilbane at left full and O Shea at centre mid. Better balance players playing on the same side as they kick the ball with and Kilbane is not anywhere our centre mid. He can has pace, can tackle, good in the air and break up play and has decent positioning. Sounds like a left back to me. He has an ok cross too.
I'd pick KK at left-back this week. I think in the long term KK could be found out at left back as well, but against most teams he'd do a decent job there. I think Duff or McGeady would really appreciate his presence behind him.
At least playing Duff and McGeady we have 2 wingers who'll always cover the full backs when the opposition have the ball. Kilbane shouldn't have too much trouble against Cyprus.
Just like his 20 yarder against Sweden not long ago. A good striker attacks space in the 6 yard space too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallasirish
And not even the most optimistic among us thinks he's world class! Best we have, along with Doyle, yes.
Agree with putting KK at left back at least for the Cyprus match and see how he goes. He was shockin against the Dutch but I think O'Shea has more to offer in the middle than KK (he can actually pass the ball for starters!).
See how Kilbane goes at LB against the Cypriots and then make a decision for the Czech match based on that...
Remember too that Kilbane played left back for against Spain the World Cup, not from the start but for all of extra time I think and some of normal time.
He practically played left back whenever Ian Harte played there under Mick :)
]---------------Kenny-----------
Finnan----Dunne---O'Brien---Kilbane
McGeady--O'Shea--Douglas----Duff
------Keane---Morrison-----
Being a Leeds fan and having watched both Miller and Douglas play last season I can guarantee you that Douglas is the better player of the two. Miller is very lightweight and doesnt tackle and do his defensive duties, games pass him by and he doesnt get imvolved enough. He does have the ability to play a good pass but its not enough to cover up his lack of work. Miller only scored once for Leeds last season which was a huge disappointment.
Douglas is a true box to box player who will run for you all day. He comes up with some vital goals and loves to burst into the box at any opportunity. Ireland dont have a midfield player like that at the moment. Douglas also has a bit of bite about him and will win his fair share of tackles. Some might say he is not ready yet but thats just rubbish, he is a better player than Miller and will offer the Irish side alot more.
Cheers for that King good insight to both players. I always have that fear about miller and I think O Shea may neeed someone beside him with a bit of agression so against a good side O Shea and Miller could be very lightweight.
Right. Here is FM Genie's opinion on our best 11, excluding injuries:
Shay Given
Steve Finnan
Ian Harte
Richard Dunne
Andy O'Brien
Aiden McGeady
Damien Duff
Steven Reid
Andy Reid
Robbie Keane
Kevin Doyle
;)
Stan is luckey in this match that Cyprus don't play tactics, because tactically, Stan hasn't a clue
Ah yes....this explains a hell of a lot.....
RTE News reckon O'Shea will play left back.
If he plays O'Shea at left back then I'd be happy with Miller and Douglas in the centre.
Stan: "Clinton has played there a few times before. He will get hold of the ball; he has an eye for goal and has looked sharp in training," said Staunton. "There will be no problems if he plays, or Alan Lee. Who knows - even Damien (Duff) might be up with Robbie. We've got options."
Why would Stan even think for one nanosecond of playing our most creative midfield player out of position as a striker when we will need to break down a Cyprus wall? never mind the fact that he hasn't effective there in the past.
Gotta love Stevie Ireland saying that Carsley would add a lot to the team right now :)
So has Connolly, with the same results :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
Same thing I saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=547456&postcount=75
Kilbane said the same, and more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
Don't read too much into what Stan says about his forward options, he's just concealing his intentions from his opponents.
Totally agree. Stan is a mind-game and tactical genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Hope you're right....playing Duff up top would be a disaster. As we've seen on several occasions with McCarthy it just doesn't work. I'd be happy with Clinton there for Cyprus and then bring Doyle back fresh for the Czechs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Not quite what I said :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
stan is multi-lingual, a member of mensa and can do the irish times crossword in eleven minutes flat
Connolly and Keane never have and never will work together. Morrison and Keane had a decent partnership.Quote:
Originally Posted by thew0rm2345
stay off the computer games eirbhoy!Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Kevin Doyle has the potential to be as good as Fernando Balano! I bet he's thrilled..........
What a load of sh*te
Stephen Ireland seemed to be playing with the yellow bibs in training yesterday - along with the 'first - teamers' from the glimpse I saw on tv3.
I hope he plays, he could be the one to unlock defences from midfield
Ireland starting would surprise me - please tell me Kilbane wasn't wearing a bib?
He's not world class, hes barely international class...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallasirish
haha. :D It doesn't say much for the rest of our strikers when Keane is our best ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Condex
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/robkeane-intlg.html
16 goals in 35 competitives. Excellent record. It's up there with Klose's 14 in 30 and I wouldn't say there's many strikers with a much better record.
I find the writing off of robbie Keane simply laughable. Record goalscorer says it all.
Agreed. Clearly international class as his record shows. He's not without his faults by any means (moans too much for example, poor with his head...) but his record is good and he does a lot of other stuff as well.
I think it was Mackey in the Examiner who said that he has a tendancy to direct traffic which I thought was a good description of his performance in Stuttgart.
I'd have him over Peter Crouch (Ing er land's saviour) any day of the week - Keano is due a big game and fingers crossed he has two in a row.