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Sums up Mc Shane for me in a nutshell. Can be dodgy defensively but good getting forward. Scores a few goals also. Unfortunately those last three statements could all be applied to Ian Harte aswell so make of that what you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
if youd actually researched the other two games you might realise that he was not infact 'pure ****e', the falkirk website quoted him as being 'our best player by far' against aberdeen.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
also anyone have any clue about how the ipswich lads got on in the CC especially billy clarke if he even played?
Ipswich went out on penalties to Peterborough in the last round. They're playing Sunderland at the weekend, which could set a record for Irishmen on the same pitch in a club game in England!Quote:
Originally Posted by FootballsKing
By all accounts Stokes was excellent against Aberdeen...Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
"Stokes, by far Falkirk’s best player, then caused havoc in the Don’s defence, shuffling to the byeline before laying off a ball across goal but it took Twaddle by surprise and the youngster’s shot flew high over the bar to the utter dismay of the home support."
Why make stuff up? Either that or somebody has been telling you porkies...
Some comments from a Falkirk message board:
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Think he looks like a star of the future and we should enjoy him while he is playing for us. Previous Falkirk heroes have usually been at the end of their career while this boy is just starting. In years to come we could be saying "I watched him when he played for Falkirk". Would be great if we could get an extension to his loan until the end of the season.
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he was brilliant last night plenty of pace
and some great touches and deserved man of the
match topped with a great goal
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Looked the part on Saturday.....keen as mustard.
He was crap against Rangers. It wouldn't have been hard to be Falkirk's best player in the Aberdeen match they got hammerred 2-0 at home. As a striker his job is to score goals - if he doesn't score goals then no-one will care come the end of the season that he layed off a few chances in a game they got beaten 2-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
1 goal in 3 appearances in the Scottish league for an apparently highly rated Arsenal striker is hardly pulling up trees. Even if he is only 18. Bendter is banging in goals for fun at Birmingham in a much more competitive league and he's a similar age to Stokes. Stokes isn't going to get a look in as a striker at Arsenal unless he improves dramatically, he doesn't look to be as good as Lupoli or Bendter. Get the rose tinted glasses off and be realistic.
I'd look f**king good at Falkirk on occasion.
in fairness, no you wouldnt
You said he was rubbish against Aberdeen which simply isn't true. Stokes scored 1 in his first 3 for Falkirk, Bendtner scored 1 in his first 3 for Birmingham. Lupoli has managed to score in one of his 6 matches for Derby (which was a brace tbf).
Also:
"A very tired looking Stokes was withdrawn in 73 minutes and Pedro Moutinho took over."
Give him time, he has had a very good start and isn't even fully match fit. Hartson, Larsson, Viduka, Negri, Cadete, Boyd and Van Hooijdonk are the only players to hit 20 goals in a season in the SPL in the last decade. All players that had well proven themselves in other leagues. Hartson hit 24 goals in a season with West Ham. Larsson scores loads no matter what the level. Viduka scored 22 for Leeds after leaving Celtic. Negri scored 15 Serie A goals the season before joining Rangers. Cadete scored 25 goals for Sporting in a season in Portugal before joining Celtic. van Hooijdonk scored 34 for Forest the season after leaving Celtic and also 22 in the Dutch league after that.
It's not as if he should be scoring in every match because he's in a poor league. :)
I reserve the right to be excited by the potential of this lad so to hell with with the begrudgers.Lupoli and Bentder are great prospects so he can be one too and no I have never seen him play:p
I hope he becomes a top striker but for every Robbie Keane or Kevin Doyle we have five like Graham Barrett, Michael Reddy, Richie Foran, Ben Burgess, Liam George, Alan Lee etc. I personally think Billy Clarke is more so the one to watch this season. Adam Rooney could also have a good year but he's just recovering his match fitness after a pre-season injury so I'll wait before making a judgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheifo
Manchester city's Pontin's League side lost 3-1 to Oldham Athletic's side last night. City had Michael Daly in defence.
Man City review: http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pa...=37633&siteid=
Oldham review: http://www.oldhamathletic.premiumtv....900140,00.html
I see Michael Timlin made his first appearance of the season last night in Central Midfield at Fulham. Pity they got beaten 2-1 by Wycombe. Steven Ireland also came on as a sub in Man Citys defeat to Chesterfield so all things considered it wasn't a great night for the young Irish players in the Carling Cup.
wasnt a great night for the premiership full stop last night in the Carling Cup!
still though at least the Irish lads are being acknowledged
Stephen Ireland was one of City's better performers last night, despite his short time on the pitch. The fans can't understand why he's not playing more when the team oare obviously bereft of creativity in the middle of the park!
From the Manchester Evening News review:
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Ireland (for Hamann 77): improved the team markedly because he could pass the ball
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Originally Posted by eirebhoy
in fairness all of those players had a major advantage in that the played for celtic or rangers. im sure the likes of stokes, shane long etc would score far more goals for Celtic/Rangers than they do for their respective clubs at the moment
hereford v leicester 1-3
McCarthy was rested as leicester overcame hereford and Maybury was restored to the line up, more significant though was Conrad Logans selection in goal, he seems to have had a busy night of it, conceding a spot kick and escaping with a booking and also making several fine saves.
he is featured in this report a few times,
http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page...~36231,00.html
p. heffernan started for doncaster and was eventually subbed towards the end of the game which was drawn 3-3. sean thornton came on and o'connor scored the winning penalty which sent them through. not sure which o'connor he is though.
George O Callaghan is now on trial at Hull after being on trial at Ipswich
I thought he just went to Ipswich on loan?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
Liverpool 3 - 0 Tottenham
Keane and Finnan both played 90
Arsenal 3 - 0 Sheff Utd
Derek Geary started and played 78, Alan Quinn on in the 78th
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Charlton
Matt Holland started and came off in the 66th
Fulham 0 - 2 Chelsea
N/A
Man City 2 - 0 West Ham
Dunne full 90, Ireland on in the 89th
Middlesbrough 0 - 1 Blackburn
N/A
Wigan 1 - 1 Watford
Kilbane full 90 for Wigan
Burnley 2 - 3 Southampton
James O'Connor full 90, Chris McCann on in the 69th, Alan Mahon 80th
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Coventry
Kennedy full 90, Morrison started, scored, and came off in the 88th, Kennedy had the assist on Morrison's goal...Tabb full 90, Michael Doyle started and came off in the 68th
Ipswich 3 - 1 Sunderland
Shane Supple unused sub, Billy Clarke on in the 73rd, Alan Lee full 90, scored twice, Jonathan Macken started and played 73...Kenny Cunningham full 90, Liam Lawrence on in the 70th, Kavanagh and Miller full 90
Leeds 3 - 2 Birmingham
Kelly, Douglas, Butler full 90 for Leeds...Marcus Painter full 90, Colin Doyle unused sub
Leicester 0 - 0 Colchester
Conrad Logan and Paddy McCarthy full 90
Luton 2 - 2 West Brom
Kevin Foley full 90, Keith Keane unused sub...Paul McShane full 90
Plymouth 3 - 1 Norwich
Gary Doherty full 90 and scored an own goal
QPR 2 - 0 Hull
Martin Rowlands full 90...Mark Yeates on in the 67th
Sheff Wed 1 - 2 Derby
Graham Coughlan and Glenn Whelan full 90, Barry Corr on in the 84th
Wolverhampton 2 - 0 Stoke
Gary Breen and Darren Potter full 90...Adam Rooney on in the 79th
Bournemouth 1 - 1 S****horpe
Steven Foley full 90, Leon Best on in the 84th...Joe Murphy, Cliff Byrne, and Andy Keogh full 90, Ian Morris unused sub
Carlisle 3 - 1 Brighton
Peter Murphy full 90 for Carlisle
Cheltenham 1 - 2 Bradford
John Melligan started and came off in the 84th for Cheltenham
Chesterfield 3 - 1 Brentford
Barry Roche full 90, Colin Larkin on in the 46th for Chesterfield
Doncaster Rovers 0 - 0 Blackpool
James O'Connor full 90, Paul Heffernan started and came off in the 82nd, Sean Thornton on in the 82nd...Ben Burgess started and was off in the 61, Wes Hoolahan started and came off in the 87th
Leyton Orient 2 - 3 Rotherham
Daryl McMahon full 90...David Worrell and Michael Keane full 90, Richie Partridge unused sub
Millwall 0 - 1 Northampton
Alan Dunne full 90 for Millwall
Oldham 4 - 1 Gillingham
Gary Mulligan full 90 for Gillingham
Port Vale 0 - 2 Bristol City
Richard Keogh full 90 for Bristol
Swansea 1 - 2 Huddersfield
Thomas Butler started and came off in the 56th...Michael Collins full 90
Tranmere 0 - 0 Nottm Forest
John Thompson unused sub ofr Nottinham Forest
Yeovil 2 - 0 Crewe
N/A
Boston Utd 0 - 3 Rochdale
Richie Ryan on in the 46th for Boston
Bristol Rovers 1 - 2 Walsall
Rene Gilmartin unused sub for Walsall
Bury 2 - 2 Barnet
John Fitzgerald full 90, Brian Barry-Murphy unused sub for Bury
Grimsby 0 - 1 Stockport
N/A
Macclesfield 3 - 3 Torquay
Mickey Evans full 90 for Torquay
Mansfield 2 - 2 Accrington Stanley
Stephen Dawson full 90, Alan Sheehan on in the 33rd and missed a penalty...Robert Elliot and Michael Welch unused sub
Milton Keynes Dons 1 - 2 Chester
Jonathan Walters came on in the 62nd minute and scored for Chester
Notts County 1 - 1 Swindon
N/A
Peterborough 3 - 5 Hartlepool
Jon Daly full 90 and scored twice, Gary Liddle full 90 and scored twice, Willie Boland on in the 67th for Hartlepool
Shrewsbury 2 - 2 Darlington
Michael Cummins full 90, Barry Conlon unused sub
Wycombe 1 - 3 Lincoln City
Colin Cryan unused sub for Lincoln
Scorers:
Clinton Morrison (Crystal Palace)
Alan Lee (Ipswich)
Alan Lee (Ipswich)
Jon Daly (Hartlepool)
Jon Daly (Hartlepool)
Gary Liddle (Hartlepool)
Gary Liddle (Hartlepool)
Jonathan Walters (Chester)
I'm not sure about Jonathan Walters. Soccebase says he is Irish, but Wikipedia doesnt. He was born in Birkenhead (Same place as Jason McAteer) so there is a possibilty
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Perhaps this finalizes it, he is Irish
http://www.elevenaside.com/boysingre...p?newsid=10012
He's definately Irish, he scored twice on his debut for the U-21's while still at Bolton, but couldn't get into the side ahead of Davies, so moved on
Can you add Karl Byrne and Shane Duggan to the list of Plymouth Argyle players? Byrne is a central midfielder from Dublin, and Shane is a left winger, he's from up the road from me at home in Limerick.
Celtic's reserves, including Diarmuid O'Carroll at centre half and Jim O'Brien on the wing recorded a 2-0 win over Aberdeen's second XI. O'Brien opened the scoring in the second half with a penalty. It's possible that O'Carroll was at centre half because of O'Dea's recent promotion to the senior side.
Celtic review: http://www.celticfc.net/newsroom/new...25_1721pc'
Aberdeen review: http://www.afc.co.uk/news/news_story...&newstype=News
Was O'Dea in the squad for the Old Firm, anyone know? would be interesting to see him get a run out in the league
He was on the bench, but didn't come on: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=495698Quote:
Originally Posted by FootballsKing
He played in the league cup game last week against St Mirren at left full, even though he's a centre half for the reserves, and did well by all accounts
It seems a strange one for O'Carroll to have played at centre half. Fair play for keeping a clean sheet. :)
leicester v colchester 0-0
McCarthy played the full 90, Maybury was not in the 16 at all, but Logan made his league debut,having risen from 5/6th choice keeper at the club when i first posted on here, to 3rd choice at the beginning of the current season, on sat he started ahead of Rab Douglas, one of the bigger earners here, and also dislodged Paul Henderson, who has recently been put on standby for a full Australia squad.
he wasnt over exerted early on as the visitors came for a point, and it was 38mins in before he had a real cross to deal with, which he did confidently, minutes later he also dealt with his first shot, low down to his right, a save you would expect him to make.the real plus point of the opening half was his kicking, which on this display is much better than the other keepers at leicester, even directly forcing colchester into conceding 2 corners with kicks from his hands in the first 20, such was the length and accuracy of the deliveries.
into the second half and he had more to do in the opening 5mins that the rest of the game, punching well a flicked-on corner, taking a deep cross impressively, and chasing out of his area to head off danger and clear to safety, he also got the better of a one-on-one in this period, thereafter it was routine enough for him, but he did what he had to do well, although his kicking was better early on.he will be tested more severly than this game tested him, but to his credit, on sat he playerd well, achieving a clean sheet on his debut.
McCarthy was playing with a new C.B. partner and he had a fairly routine outing, avoided coming to the refs attention and read some flicks very well to tidy up at times.he also played some nice passes out of defence.
Nice one! Is Logan now 1st choice or was there another reason he started?
What's Logan like in stature?
Of our other young keepers, Doyle & Randolph are both very tall, Supple & Henderson much less so. I haven't seen Quigley.
You mentioned Logan's kicking. Henderson has a fine kick too.
He seems well built for a 20 year old. 6'2 and 14 stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
http://www.bbc.co.uk/lincolnshire/co...ry_352x470.jpg
http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/clogan.jpg
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Originally Posted by eirebhoy
nope, he is the man in posession E.B., Douglas has failed to impress (but as a celtic man,im sure you will be only too painfully aware of his failings:) ) and Henderson, although decent, kicks very erratically on occasion. so Logan got his chance having done well at reserve level and impressed generally in the league cup early rounds.
the competition, http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page...903188,00.html
all fully fit at lcfc: http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page...902975,00.html
the real test is sat away at birmingham, we will see then if his performance impressed sufficiently to keep the spot.
here he be;Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page...~30430,00.html
he is a big lad, he has really bulked up some since i first watched him play a couple of seasons back, he has been at the protien and the weights by the looks if it. he also is known as a bit of a charachter in the dressing room and always has a smile on his face when warming up pre-game, he seems relaxed and at home out there.
he will make time and sign autographs as well, generally doing so after warming up before heading back to the dressing rooms, for a minute or two, i saw him once a couple of months back spot a lad who had Logan on his replica leicester keeper jersey (which not a lot of people do) and he came over and made the little lads day having a chat with him.nice touch.
real goodwill towards him from to kop on sat, huge welcoming cheer when his name was called.
Connolly and Murphy face late fitness tests for this weekend's games and both should be fit enough to be able to play at least part of Cyprus or all of the Czech games if either of them are going to take Elliott's spot
He's just 23, he has scored 7 goals in 3 matches for Hartlepool (including a hat-trick today). Hes obviously playing in League 2, but keep an eye out for him
He is a big lad too, 6' 3' Maybe his three goals is a bit of a flash in the pan as he only scored just twice in 30 League One outings for Hartlepool last season.
I wont do the full round up I usually do anymore as it takes too long (an hour usually). If someone would commit to the CCC, League 1, or League 2 each week I'll do the rest
Scorers:
Andy Keogh (S****horpe)
Wes Hoolahan (pen) (Blackpool)
Leon Best (Southampton)
Alan Dunne (Millwall)
Jon Daly (3) (Hartlepool)
he's played a good few times for us. couldnt tell you if hes jumped ship, saw him 2 months ago in a big 4x4, the spinning alloys were about as big as my car!Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
birmingham v leicester 1-1
wasnt at this one but had it on the local radio and McCarthy and Logan played the 90, Logan keeping his spot despite the commentators confirming all 3 keepers at the club were available for selection.the comentator couldnt say enough good things about his performance, also saying how the leicester defence has been far more likely to use the pass back as an out ball since he has come into the side, putting this down to the dependability of his kicking.
when fouled from a corner,his resulting freekick came to ground well inside the brum box causing them grief and also from a passback he recieved under pressure he found the head of O'Grady in the right channel.
the comentators also said how having spoken to the defenders during the week, it seems his communication is very good, always keeping his back four aware of developing threats to good effect.
he made 3 r 4 outstanding saves in the game which meant leicester took a point from a game where they deserved a good hiding, he also took a cross from our own Kelly impressively, (Kelly recieved frequent mention also in the commentary, he seemed to be in posession quite a bit, high up the pitch)
Logans one big moment came just before half time when he left his area and brought down Campbell, but was spared a red by a defender chasing in behind him to cover (possibly McCarthy), he recieved a yellow much to birminghams disgust.
McCarthy was part of a back 3 today and his side were under the cosh for almost the entire game conceding 13 corners. he picked up his 4th yellow of the season for a foul on Bendtner on the left flank in the second half.from what i could gather he held his own, but the other 2 defenders had more impressive games.
Doyle was on the bench for brum but Maybury was nowhere to be seen
full match report here with plenty if Irish interest, particularly Logan
http://www.lcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page...~33196,00.html
some leicester message board reaction to the game and Logans contribution,
http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp...toid=531064284
He's currently joint top scorer in the Scottish prem. His club Motherwell are in last place so it's not like he's getting good supply from the rest of the team. Rather it points to a natural predator. I think he's certainly more deserving of a call up than Terry Dixon.