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Rovers are in a worse state than I though if Ger Rowe is considered one of their best signings. And if they're that bad, how can Farrelly justify the result to himself. Any manager who even thinks about signing jason McGuinness should be sacked on the spot IMO.
ireland.com has it. So has Bohsnews, in part( i.e. reporting that it's been reported) since ireland.com is subscription.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
But the mods on foot.ie have said that they consider posting links to Bohsnews as spam.
Dolan is the only man who can save Bohs now...
Rowe ran himself into the ground last night. He does the same most weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
What more can you ask for?
Consensus amongst most sources seems to point towards Dolan (in fairness, whichever direction you point, there's a fair chance Dolan will be in the way), but Eoin Hand had been strongly linked with the job a few months back.
Also a rumour (out of RTÉ of all places) this afternoon that Sinisa Gogic was in the frame. :confused:
Rowe has been fantastic for us and was IMO man-of-the-match last night. I'd have thought that a man like yourself would know that players can be completely different animals under different managers. Rowe is streets ahead of Mark Quigley but Quigley played for us under Roddy.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
As for Jason McGuinness, he was dire last night. At one stage he shanked a straightforward clearance into touch and Scully laughed out loud. Scully won't be signing any of that rubbish next season. You're more than welcome to the mercenaries like Quigley and Molloy while the likes of McGuinness, Stephen Gough, Keith Doyle etc can stay where they are.
I've long believed that there's a ridiculous tendency in this country to overpay journeymen while discounting "kids" and guys who've failed once. I'm confident that Rovers and Pat Scully will show that to be the nonsense it is next season.
KOH
And dont forget the "once they leave Rovers to sign for the scum they turn into ****" factor. Classic example being McGuinness. Garbage last night.
How did boez fans treat Mahon? By spitting at him and going for his family is all.
KOH
Again Peadar why were Bohs fans wrong to want him out? Please explain. Also Roddy was not hounded out. Again how many managers have you gone through in that time, more than uus so I guess your board is as fickle as ours then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Gf was a failure, Mahon was a failure simple as. SK delivered success of that there is no doubt and has proved himself ever better since but we have hardly been houding out Wenger.Mourinho class of managers now have we. Lets see how many managerial jobs GF get again or how many big clubs Mahon ever manages.
That has to be the most deluded post in the history of foot.ieQuote:
Originally Posted by BohsBohsBohs
Mahon in particular was hounded his family were abused at one of the matches and he is quite rightly still bitter about his treatment.
Kenny was abused tho not as much as mahon yet it was still fierce after
him winning a championship. Completely OTT. The fans completely lost the
run of themselves believeing they should be winning th league every year
A few boos dogs have had better treatment.
God your memory is short
Name the post where I defend the club for that sort of Sh1te.
Dont make statements that are blantantly false and get cranky
when your pulled on it
You must be a WUM if you come out with that. Small little club who abuse every manager you get cos he doesnt win a league. Mahon was spat at and Farrelly was nearly attacked by one of your OWN stewards.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsBohsBohs
But of course I made that up. And we'll ignore the eye witnesses.:rolleyes:
KOH
The man himself? And scum "calling" around to his house too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsBohsBohs
KOH
If you're a murder suspect you can't be your own alibi.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Didn't see the game. Not saying he won't have his moments but he was a year with us and was ****e for most of it. Too early for me to compare him to Quigley (and you vice versa I guess) but so far I'm not impressed with him. (Don't know one Pats fan who is tbh) Think its hilarious that Quigley's a mercenary and Rowe is a kid who's failed once. Their career paths are fairly similar and we'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Oh and LOL @ the journeyman comment. His signing of Vinnie Perth (and his time last year in Kilkenny) suggests he'll sign as many journeyman as he can afford. His hand is forced at the moment and he's doing well but don't kid yourselves it'll be as easy next year (and I'm sure you're not)
back on topic; Worst Bohs team ever
In fairness most players couldnt care less who they play for. It's just that our players are young and are getting more or less minimum wage therefore they are hungry to succeed. Having a professional manager instead of the joker from last year helps too.
KOH
....and being in a division lower helps three.....
Is that the joker you hounded out? :D
Helps us knock Premier Division opposition out of both cups? Don't see it myself, we were simply better than Pats and Bohs on both occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
BohsBohsBohs - Have a lie down mate, okay you were knocked out of the cup by your bitterest rivals, your season's over, your team are the worst I ever remember. But that's no reason to talk nonsense like "scummiest sporting organisation on the foot of the planet with its vermin support" Bitterness isn't big and it isn't clever. ;)
KOH
Even a boez fan is saying bumbohsbum is a WUM.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
KOH
"In fairness most players couldnt care less who they play for. It's just that our players are young and are getting more or less minimum wage therefore they are hungry to succeed. Having a professional manager instead of the joker from last year helps too.....[added]....and being in a division lower helps three
.......as Dodge alluded to those players would not find the going so easy in the Premier (and that has been proven in a few of their cases). Cup competitions are a separate kettle of fish altogether, everyone knows this. Fair dues on a good result but its far from a sound basis for basing those posts on. I wasn't impressed with Dundalk in our cup meeting in any way, yet they are right up there so far in the First Division.
Rovers have a different age profile to the likes of Dundalk - who have several "experienced old pros" (read: portly gentlemen) therefore they are the fittest of the First Divisioners ive seen
I'm afraid our Rovers friend is right on this one BBB. his window's were also put inQuote:
Originally Posted by BohsBohsBohs
Well i herd that Liam Buckleys windows were put in by Rovers fans when they wanted him out of there club?
I heard that beetlejuice is the new boez manager
KOH
No, no, no, Malcolm Glazer put them in. He was looking to takeover the club. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Irish Fan
This is probably not my place but.....I've been going to bohs games (only bout 6 a season) euro's games and matches with rovers and cup games fot about 6 six years now. I wouldn't consider myself to be a bohs fan really but I look to see their match scores on the night if I'm not there and I have a shirt. To be honest I think at this stage Bohs fans are a joke and after last night I'ill not be supporting/semi-supporting them. The way they have treated their managers is a disgrace and last night was the end for me. Farrelly having to be taken off with stewards guarding him while the tunnel was thumped and people sang ''we want Farrelly out''. Now he hasn't been great for sure but that kind of reaction along with how they treated Kenny is just not on...now you could tell Kenny was a good manger and you can certainly tell that now. I was there when the fans called for his head and to be honest you could hear in their voices that they didnt know what they were saying...
Bohs fans wanna cop on.... this cant go on for ever...There is too much power there and the use of it is poor...
but we never wanted him out :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Fan
you can figure the rest out yourself
Peadar, These are the facts for the past 12 months ....... Our budget last year was about €950,000 and it'll be about €1,050,000 this year. If Cork's results were similar for this kind of outlay would you be happy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Some FACTS about Gareth Farrelly's time as Bohs manager .....
Bohemians beat Finn Harps in Ballybofey in Mid July 2005. Since then Bohs have played TWELVE games outside Dublin [in League and FAI Cup] and the record is abysmal …..
W-1 D-0 L-11 F-9 A-22
02 Aug Derry City 3-1 Bohemians
06 Aug Longford 1-0 Bohemians
23 Sep Drogheda 2-1 Bohemians (FAI Cup)
30 Sep Waterford United 2-0 Bohemians
08 Nov Drogheda United 3-2 Bohemians
11 Nov Bray Wanderers 3-1 Bohemians
18 Mar Sligo Rovers 1-0 Bohemians
24 Mar Cork City 1-0 Bohemians
07 Apr Derry City 1-0 Bohemians
06 May Longford Town 3-1 Bohemians
02 Jun Drogheda United 1-0 Bohemians
30 Jun Waterford United 1-3 Bohemians
Our Record against the top 5 [as of August 19th 2006] for the past 12 months.
This Season [2006], the top 5 teams are Shelbourne, Drogheda Utd, Derry City, Cork City and Sligo Rovers. Since Bohs beat Drogheda 3-2 in Dalymount Park on July 22nd 2005, there has been 18 games against those 5 teams and the record reads
W-1 D-1 L-16 F-11 A-31
02 Aug Derry City 3-1 Bohemians
19 Aug Shelbourne 2-1 Bohemians
16 Sep Bohemians 2-3 Derry
23 Sep Drogheda 2-1 Bohemians (FAI Cup)
31 Oct Bohemians 1-2 Cork City
08 Nov Drogheda United 3-2 Bohemians
18 Nov Bohemians 0-3 Shelbourne
10 Mar Bohemians 0-1 Drogheda
18 Mar Sligo Rovers 1-0 Bohemians
24 Mar Cork City 1-0 Bohemians
07 Apr Derry City 1-0 Bohemians
19 May Shelbourne 2-0 Bohemians
02 Jun Drogheda United 1-0 Bohemians
23 Jun Bohemians 0-2 Sligo Rovers
27 Jun Bohemians 0-0 Cork City
07 Jul Bohemians 1-2 Derry City
07 Aug Shelbourne 1-0 Bohemians
18 Aug Bohemians 2-1 Shelbourne
Also Peadar, Kenny was sacked a few months before the end of his contract. At notime up until the 40 seconds or so at the end of the Levadia Tallinn game did he ever receive any major stick from Bohs fans.
PeadarQuote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Since 1990 we have had 7 managers.
In the same time Cork have had 9 managers.
Stephen Kenny's time at Bohs was up. His contract was nearly finished and thinks were on a slide. Kenny may or may not have turned it around but his time had come and gone and he looks like he has learned from those mistakes. Kenny was not hounded out.
I still believe the board made the right call regarding Kenny. It was either get rid or extend contract and only one option was realistically going to happen.
However thats were it all went pear shaped and they appointed a tosser in Farrelly who was after a handy near to spend his days seen as he couldnt get a deal anywhere else and this was the least embarassing route for him.
Mahon was hounded out after he dismantled a title winning squad into a complete sham. At one stage we were in the promotion/relegation playoff spot after something like 15 games.
For all this bull**** about managers being hounded about, we have had one of no worse a turnover of managers in the league in the past 16 years then most other clubs.
Nice to see some facts injected into a foot.ie discussion.
Not having a go here, but it does always surprise me that here in internet land all Bohs fans still maintain they were correct to get rid of Kenny.
(I saw most Bohs home games under Kenny and I thought it was a mistake at the time and still do.)
it'll never catch on...Quote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
In terms of timing it was the right thing to do in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
We were struggling to put a run together
It took 7 attempt to win a home league game that season
We lost twice to Dublin City
We got knocked out of Europe by the team who we beat 3-0 only 3 years earlier
Kenny's contract had only a few months left to run. If Farrelly's contract was up this year and not the end of 2007 he'd probably have got sacked 3 months ago.
The mistake IMO was the replacement, not the sacking of Kenny.
No one can argue that Kenny is not a good manager. But he was sacked purely on the basis of his performance at Bohs, which was poor and getting poorer, though perhaps not of Farrelly proportions, and not reflecting the resources that he had.Quote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
It would be very useful if boards of management could consider a manager's performance at his next club, post-sacking, but the Bohs board only had his current trends to work on. The team had no drive, no momentum and the spirit was gone. Kenny was tired, and it showed on the field and most transparently in post-match interviews. Club and manager both needed a change. It did Kenny good, and good luck to him. It didn't help the club because of the ill-advised appointment that followed, but, with a bit of luck on our side too, that may be about to change.
Fully endorsed.
Pat Dolan was in Phibsboro doing a medical as we speak...
Being carried out by Mulder and Scully...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
Dolan on the treadmill:
Quote:
Mulder: His jiggling is almost hypnotic.
Scully: Yes. It's like a lava lamp