That's even more optimistic than yer man who thinks Ireland will win in Stutgart, he had an excuse it as about 4 in the morning when he posted his thread:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
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That's even more optimistic than yer man who thinks Ireland will win in Stutgart, he had an excuse it as about 4 in the morning when he posted his thread:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
Tough draw, bu Derry have been upsetting the odds so far. They've a quality squad, so they might put it up to PSG. If they keep it tight at the back in the first leg, and keep a clean sheet-they'll have a decent chance in the second. Hopefully PSG will underestimate Derry.
Looking at line up three class players going forward in Dhorasoo, Rothen and Pauleta
Well the two most recent meetings against French sides by Irish clubs have not resulted in any hidings. Cork lost 4-2 on agg to Nantes in the QF of the Intertoto drawing 1-1 at home and Shels lost 4-2 to Lille on agg in the 1st round of the UEFA cup also drawing at home 2-2.
PSG are far better than both those teams but a draw could be possible at home. You never know.
Fu<ken worst draw ever! Now looking for Vs Lille, Vs Depor style home performanaces from Derry.
Draw at home will be minimum requirements to progress. More importantly that would give the extra points needed to get seeded in the champions league rd 3 if Derry were to win the league. (am i right about that?) Plus and extra .333 for a draw! Imagine 2.833! that puts us well ahead of schedule of getting 2.0 a year for the next 5 years! (2 years ahead if im not mistaken!)
Will the game be held at the Brandywell???
Not sure they are far better than Lille. PSG have a reputation as being rich but nearly always disappointing. At least they have sold that Ronaldinho guy though!
British teams in capitals; seeds in bold
Levadia Tallinn v NEWCASTLE
Molde FK v RANGERS
DERRY CITY v Paris St Germain
Sparta Prague v HEARTS
FC Salzburg v BLACKBURN
WEST HAM v Palermo
From bbc.co.uk
Think they do it to be irritating
have to correct you on one point here, Lille are FAR better than PSG over teh last two seasons. FAR better. and thats a fact. Derry haven't a prayer against a French Ligue 1 side though. Worst draw they could have gotQuote:
Originally Posted by ger121
You have to lok at it this way - Newcastle got past Ventspils (I think) in the round just gone, 1-0 nil on agg.I reckon Derry could have caused an upset there.So there's every possiblity that Psg may flatter to deceive, and allow Derry to cause a few shocks.
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Originally Posted by wws
last 4 seasons for PSG have been 11th 3rd, 9th and 9th so last two seasons have been consistently mid table.
Pauleta was League's top scorer last year though
Start got Ajax. Drogheda must be gutted....
they've a fighting chance obviously but the point is there were a couple of mug outfits still in the draw that would have yielded potential to score away goals against. Well organised French Ligue 1 teams dont fit that bill and they have decent international strikers
I hope everybody writes off Derry. And that they play the first leg in the Brandywell. Mid table ligue 1 team - despite thier history gives Derry an outside chance. They should definitely be looking to get at least a draw in the first leg. Second leg will be tough - but who knows!
The newsreader on five live named Derry as one of the UK's representatives. Well I suppose they are technically in the UK but they are not representing a UK league.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
PSG have had a poor few seasons by their high standards.
So far this season they have played very bad, and lucky to have got a win in their last game.
They will underestimate Derry and I reckon, especially at home, Derry can cause an upset.
I hope Derry beat them as I hate those Paris c**ts so much, just like Dundalk. I'll actually be in France for the away leg, so I might throw on my Marseille jersey and see if I can get a ticket :D
AJAX!!!!!!!!!!:(Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
to be fair the beeb (ceefax and online) always bold the EL teams as if they're "one of us"...to be honest I think its a bit of a compliment that they dont consider us "Johnny Foreigner".....with their fancy defending and diving
Well on a selfish note I hope Derry play in Dublin as I'd like to go to the match. Good to see a game against a well known European opposition.
Amsterdam got a lucky escape so. Could you imagine a few hundred Drogs roaming the red light district? :D
Should be Mega money for Derry. Loads of French TV stations will want to show that game.
Big loss of revenue for Drogs as well as all those nice ladies in the windows down the Red light District:DQuote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
Glamour draw for Derry that will justify moving the game to Windsor. Have to think little hope of proceeding but could cause an upset at home.
Drogs would not have been drawn Ajax as Drogs would have been in a different sub draw due to the kinda seeding nature of the draws. Uefa love complicated systems that no one can make out.
Newcastle are gammy as they only win 1-0 against the Lithuanians & then get drawn the lowest ranked team in the unseeded section. :rolleyes:
The match won't be played at Windsor. As Jim Roddy mentioned during last week, how would the people of the Village area feel about a tricolour flying over the ground.
Maribor on the Derry forum noted that the system picks the 5-team seeding pots on a kind of...Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Strong seed
Slight strong seed
Middling seed
Slightly weak seed
Weak seed
...basis. Start and Drogheda would more than nlikely both fall into the "Weak seed" category, so on that basis, it's quite possible they would have just taken Start's place.
I prefer to go along with chaos theory, which says that if a butterfly beating its wings can affect the weather on the other side of the world, then the difference between writing "Start Kristiansund" and "Drogheda United" on the team list would have ensured Drogheda would have gotten anyone bar Ajax. :)
Is the tie big enough to justify Lansdowne? I wonder what kind of crowfd would be required to justify... If you have tv interest they will be more keen if Lansdowne as facilities easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speranza
So there's only the RDS or Lansdowne left in the country that's up to standard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Speranza
If you were to play in Dalyer, I assume press facilities and floodlights would have to be modified.
Tolka would qualify, wouldn't it? A middling capacity.
Doubt it. Floodlights are ****in terrible, I noticed at the league cup game. I doubt new the bulbs were working, the pitch looked extremely dark!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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Way easier in Dalyer to make way for extra media facilities because of the way the press area is layed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfc 1928
Also our gantry can see the WHOLE pitch, unlike Tolka!
Shels' game against Lille was moved to Lansdowne because Tolka wasn't up to scratch. That was the same round as this.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I don't think Tolka is- think that was the main reason Shels moved the Lille game to Lansdowne.
Hmmm...I thought people were saying back then that it was a soubtful decision moving to Lansdowne and the game should have been played in Tolka with the crowd that showed up in the end. Maybe I'm wrong.
AFAIK, some people st the time were arguing that the game should have been played at Tolka on the basis that demand for tickets wouldn't be the same as for LaCoruna. Apparently, this was refuted by the club, who said that Tolka didn't fulfil certain UEFA criteria.
SK wants the game at the Brandy, and according to some our floodlights meet the 1200lux criteria. Just other things such as cctv of inside and out etc is where the brandy will fail.
Hopefully the game will be played at the Brandywell. Its best that Derry are drawn at home first. We can get tv money from French TV and hopefully that will satisfy the needs of the board. Stephen Kenny wants the match at the Brandywell. If we have any chance of progressing we need to take a result to Paris. I can only see this happening if Paris come and play the game in Derry. The Brandywell is the only place we can hope to get a result. Playing elsewhere is a neutral venue and if we move the tie, we can kiss any ambition LOI football has goodbye. In saying that people are stating the Brandywell isn't up to standard for 1st round games. I've yet to hear a club official utter these words. So here's to hope.
I think the only other ground where the derry fans can impose themselves is dalymount.If the brandywell fails the test I would want the game in dalyer if I was a derry fan
Definitely won't be in Windsor anyway- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/5286162.stm
It would obviously better for Derry to have the game in the Brandywell but would Athlone's stadium be ready if the Brandywell wasn't up to scratch? I think Athlone's will meet most UEFA requirements, not sure on media stuff though.
If they want it bad enough they can do it. The basics are ok surely? CCTV, wireless Interenet etc - could be set up in a few hours. They should play it in the Brandywell and charge £50 per ticket. That would be the clever thing to do. Or they can rent Landsdowne , get a crownd of 8000 or so , make a loss and get hammered. If eircom league sides are going to play the most important matches in their history away from home they dont deserve progress. Kenny wants the Brandywell because he knows its the only hope of an upset - simple as that. Get a 0-0 draw or 1-0 victory and who knows away from home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzy
Shels moved the champions league game because they had to - they didnt have to move the lille game. If Turners Cross was ok last year i see no reason why the Brandywell would not be ok this year.
It looks like Derry are going for a scalp here - they are trying to switch the away leg to be first. Great move if they can get it. They could surprise them. Then bring them back to the Brandywell. I would put money on it will be in the Brandywell because its what Kenny wants and as we all know Kenny knows best ;)