Thanks Oldkeeper. Keep it going, your views are refreshing.
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Thanks Oldkeeper. Keep it going, your views are refreshing.
There is no rule. If a player kicks the ball out of play, the opposition are under no obligation to return the ball to them, also if the referee stops the game in order for a player to receive treatment and no foul has occured, a drop ball restarts the game neither team is obligated to return the ball. (For a drop ball) If a player states to the referee that he is returning the ball to the oppisition and the drop ball becomes uncontested and that player "changes his mind" and dosen't pass the ball back, there is nothing the referee can do (offically), in practice, most referees will stop the game and re-drop the ball which will then become fiercly contested.Quote:
Originally Posted by abbeyvale
I hope this helps
excellent thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by The Ref
Old Keeper,
I have submitted a new thread for advice on the Laws, all queries welcome!
The Ref
SuperQuote:
Originally Posted by The Ref
well done it was needed
Roadend,your question has been moved to the Refs "sticky" thread "Advice on the laws of the game"
what is the date for the transfer deadline??
Hi AllabQuote:
Originally Posted by allab
1st Feb each year is the transfer deadline
Hi the referees fees will be changing shortly all clubs will be notified of the changes
Originally Posted by Soccer Lover View Post
Here's an idea,
Instead of sending match cards to Refs, what about send them list of players registered with that team. The manager of each team fills in the number that each player is wearing also a note of suspended players could be made on the list before it sent to the referee. the ref then returns the lists to the league.
It is a good idea but would require a change to be agreed by all clubs, also the issue of B and C players playing with the A teams would pose a problem. But it is still workable and we have the means to print a match sheet for each match detailing the squad and any suspended players could be highlighted. speak with your club and ask them to bring it up as a change at the next Delegate meeting
Old Keeper,
I was looking through old threads and I found this, as a referee I wouldn't be comfortable policing suspensions for a league, and if this was proposed and accepted, this is what referees would, in effect be doing.
Before any of this could happen, you would need to be in agreement with the local referee society branch as to their role in the administration of this scheme and I would find it difficult to believe that they would agree.
Only my two pence worth
The Ref
I agree with you saying that refs should not be policing suspensions etc but the idea was to allow both teams to see the card and they could see if any players were suspended and then take action if required.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ref
as always these are just suggestions and would need to be teased out at meetings
is it not 31st January?Quote:
Originally Posted by Old keeper
One wants to be careful of playing B/ C team players on A team. While I can understand why B Team players play on A team. C- team players should only be aloud to play as high as B team other wise it confuses the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ref
The only reason a club has a C-Team because the number of players at that club in order to give lads football thou most of the players on C-team wouldn't make it passed Bteam:cool:
one would be surprised at the number of C players who play all the way up! as the rules currently stand C can't play with B. C & B can play with A for all league games but not for divisional cupsQuote:
Originally Posted by renovater
Hi RenovatorQuote:
Originally Posted by renovater
"1st Feb each year is the transfer deadline" was what i posted should have been "Before 1st Feb each year is the transfer deadline"
Rule 16
The closing date for all transfers shall be before the 1st of Febuary of each year. Any bona fida application to clubs by players made prior to this date shall be in order provided the committee be notified in writing to the secretary before this date.
Sorry if there was confusion My fault I will PM Allab to make sure he is aware of the error. Thanks for spotting that
thanks old keeper
Are you sure that C players can play with the B team. I remember a few years back a B team I was playing with were short of players. We tried to bring up a few of the C team but were told that C players can not play with the B team only the A team. This was for a league game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old keeper
Hi gaidinQuote:
Originally Posted by gaidin
I will need to post from home in future!
The word should have been can't. I have changed the post to reflect this. I am posting from a pocket pc and have made two errors with single words over the last few days. Good job you guys are on the ball.
Hi Old Keeper,
I'd just like to say that the LDMC website is excellent. There are 2 things that are missing:
1) Previous league and cup winners
2) Top goalscorers for each division.
Other than this the website is a great help, keep up the good work.
Every league has its own rules regards to C-teams some league may regard this team as a reserve team others may see it as a c-team and will alow its players to play as high as B like, B-to Ateam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops 1967
Should c-TEAM player regrade up to B then in most league's would be then able to play in its A-team in acordance with its rules, regards to A to B
Confused yet?:D
hi HoopsQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops 1967
Thanks
We will have the history up shortly but it is all about time and at the moment I am concentrating on maintaining the fixtures and tables.
I did try to have a proposal passed at the last AGM that we would have a facilitator for each division who would be responsible for maintainining data for each of the divisions, this would have split the work load and we could place player stats on the system but there are also issues with some people not wanting yellow and red cards included in the player stats??? but we should be able to run with full stats soon as they are being collected but not displayed.
FAI Draw on www.ldmc.ie
Hi LDL are looking for facilitators for the website anyone up for a challenge should mail info@ldmc.ie for details
any clubs interested in attending a first aid course organised by the league should contact the secretary
Oldkeeper,
Has there ever been any thought given to introducing another cup competition for the lower league clubs?
Divisions 3A, 3B, 4A and 4B have only 8 teams in each. This means each team plays only 14 league games. Every other division has 10-12 teams in it, along with 4-5 cup competitions.
If you lose the first round of the league cup then you have played only 15 games in the whole season.
Teams don't get the buzz of playing a team from a higher division in the cup. A cup competition between those four divisions would be great.
HiQuote:
Originally Posted by ShelsLimerick
I have discussed this at council but the key is to get some of the clubs to mail or write to the secretary. I also feel that an open cup for the lower divisions would be great so get mailing!!
That would be great. Was always a good test playing teams from a higher division.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShelsLimerick
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Originally Posted by ShelsLimerick
Great idea will get club to sent in letter,
but was wondering why have 8 teams in 3a, 3b, 4a & 4b. why not scrap 4b and put them into the other leagues so all leagues have 10 to 12 teams. it will make for a better season for lads to look forward to playing at least 18 games up to 22 or more rather than just 14 games.
i know this can't be done now but why not next year, the lads in the lower divisions are as passionate about football as the higher divisions, and just want to play more games through the year.
what you think Old Keeper?
I agree that every player in the league is as passionate about playing as any other whenQuote:
Originally Posted by holycrossjock
on the field. problems arise when clubs say they will enter teams but they never materialise. next year we could change the structures and have teams in higher numbers , but again this requires support from the clubs not just the teams. get mailing again with suggestions
Have you appointed the facilitators yet? What will they be responsible for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Old keeper
Hi
While I have the greatest respect for all clubs and know that most of your clubs follow proceedures to the letter. I would point out a few proceedures that need to be followed by ALL clubs.
I have had a number of people pointing out that their clubs have been asked to write letters expressing dissatisfaction with the current LDL committee and asking for an EGM. Any club or indivdual can express dissatisfaction with the commitee or its decisions however in the case of a club, the club must first hold a meeting and discuss the matter, min's should record the attendees, the discussion and any decisions reached (such as writing to the committee). In an ideal world the club should write to the LDL and ask for clarification on any issues it is not satisfied with. If after this they are still dissatisfied, they may request the matter to be taken further. It is a good Idea to have all the facts before making a decision.
There is a worry from some of the people speaking to me that their clubs are being used and letters are being written without the clubs permission. This practice is not good for the league and smacks of the good old days of closed doors and a couple of people using some of the clubs to drive their own agendas
IF ANY person or club would like information on ANY matter all they need to do is contact the committee. I think there has been sufficient change over the last year or two to ensure that the open door policy is maintained
Quick Question Old Keeper,
last sunday my team Holycross B played Parkville,now its down as we are the away team but ended up as the fixture got played at Holycross... we weren't notified of any changes in fixture. was that cause Parkville don't have a pitch so all their home games are away or last sunday was a home game for us.????
just asking as we paid the ref but if we were the away team then Parkville should have paid shouldn't they?? :ball:
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Originally Posted by holycrossjock
The fixtures sec should have notified you that you were at home and as Parkville have no home ground this would have been a home fixture for them and they should have paid the ref and also paid your club for the use of the ground.
Thanks Old Keeper for clearing that up, heading your way soon, got Cup game against ST PATRICK'S. should be good game :)
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Originally Posted by Old keeper
Old Keeper,
I am sad to hear that the knives are out for the committee. However I was wondering how long it would take.
From what I hear this agenda is being pushed by some of the older members of LDMC. Clubs have been asked to support a vote of no confidence by a certain member of council and they are scared of saying no in case they get "screwed" if they succeed.
The old brigade do not like the way the new kids on the block are letting the air into the room and the information out.
It should be kept hush in their world, thus increasing their grip on power.
I don't expect you to answer this but I hope anyone like myself who is glad to see a change in LDMC will put pressure on their clubs to keep this committee in place or we'll set Limerick soccer back years
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Originally Posted by holycrossjock
Looking forward to it
Barryk...to be honest I cant see much changing. Every club has the opportunity to make changes at the AGM but rarely it happens and then afterwards you hear people complaining again. It would help if more clubs actually attended the AGM too.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryk
As members of the LDMC will tell you, the LDMC are put in place by the clubs to run the league for the clubs. Its the clubs league and if the clubs want something changed then that is their right.
"Due to a shortage of referees there are some games fixed without referees appointed these games may go ahead if these games are on clubs will be notified and clubs should listen to Limerick 95FM on Saturday morning for updates" from LDMC website
Why is there all of a sudden a shortage of referees? the same number of games this sunday as any other. are the referees on strike?
They might have other things to do, like players somtimes do, dont no why you think theres a strike, if there was, wouldnt they all be off?????
no ones doing 2 games - most sundays they all do 2? just wondering why