Your trying to tell me that a primary school banned chess because they are only GAA ? Bull****e.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
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Your trying to tell me that a primary school banned chess because they are only GAA ? Bull****e.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
I'm not sure about that guys chess story, it's not beyond the realms of possiblility. From my own personal experiences in primary school, soccer was banned AND the GAA playing kids WERE favoured.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
Listen, I can see where you are coming from. Yes there are soccer fans out there who are anti-GAA and will cheer when your county loses. But at least take the blinkers off and stop denying that the same attitudes are not widespread amongst GAA fans.
Not a word of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
I suppose the FAI and IRFU just assumed that the GAA would want to use their own state of the art 70,000 seat stadium. I wonder have they ever asked?Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
Agreed (I would have hoped that this is the debate stopper for all eL fans).Quote:
Originally Posted by d f x-
Chess is a foreign game
82,000 and i said ever. There wasn't always an 82,000 seater stadium there.Quote:
Originally Posted by rerun
Have they ever asked ? Good point. Have the IRFU or FAI ever asked the GAA ? And were they ever turned down when they did ask ?
Bloody Russians :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
So its ok for the IRFU and FAI to use Croker but not for the GAA to want to use a soccer ground ?Quote:
Originally Posted by fergalr
Go to the gaaboard.com and see how many soccer related threads there are in the non-gaa discussion.
The most bigotted GAA person i have ever seen is a guy on that board by the name of Tony Fearon and hes a soccer fan
Somehow I don't think the founders of cultural nationalism had this in mind when they thought about instilling pride in Irish identity.
It's just getting petty now. "We nivir ast them de play at ders!!"
Anyway. One thing about 'soccer' - at least it wasn't made up in the late nineteenth century to mimic 'soccer'.
I'm all for the hurlin, but 'football' is a tad sh1te and false.
There is a guy that posts on this forum who this story is about.
We were in school, lunchtime and kicking a ball about as you do, anyway this guy twists his ankle and is actually in a good deal of pain. The school is renounced for its hurling and as he hobbles down to the main building he meets the principle and he sees the situation and goes and askes him if he is alright, does he want some help, does he want ice etc. as you would think ..... he then continues to question him on how it actually happened and when he found out it happened while playing 'a foreign game' he turned around as if he just bit into a lemon and said "well it serves you right so" and turned and walked off. Un-b-fúcking-lieveable !! :p
It think you'll find its actually the chinese .... the worstist of the lot !! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Russians, chinese, sure aren't they all foreign!!:pQuote:
Originally Posted by A face
Sectarianism is never picking …. Tar them all with the one brush !! :D :pQuote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
I'd imagine that Croke Park, as it currently stands, is a massive financial drain of resources. I believe this is the prime motivation behind the opening of Croke Park's doors to the FAI and IRFU. I know there are plenty of heads in the GAA hierarchy that are fans of football and rugby, but surely the decision to open Croke Park was made all the sweeter considering the amount of money the GAA will receive for each football/rugby game played there? The opening of Croke Park paints the GAA is a positive light but the amount of money they are receiving for doing so is rarely brought up. Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
The GAA has come out now stressing that the dimensions of Lansdowne Rd arent accommodating to GAA games. Fair enough. But Croke Park wasn't built with rugby and football in mind, despite the massive investment of State money, so why should Lansdowne be re-designed to GAA games specifics? And, being prefectly honest, I doubt the FAI and IRFU would dismiss GAA usage of Lansdowne Rd if the GAA is willing to pay the same amount as what the FAI and IRFU are doing to use Croke Park. Have they actually said that Lansdowne Rd is off-limits to the GAA?
But why would the GAA pay that amount when Croke Park is empty for 8 months of the year, if not more? Why on earth would the GAA need usage of Lansdowne Rd?
If there is one thing the GAA should be applauded for, is how well the GAA is organised. They know how to use the media, fight for their interests and how to play the innocent samaritan. Just ask Shamrock Rovers.
You started this thread - and the question remains why? Everything you have said is all just general crap without any facts. Why are you so anti FAI and IRFU?
It's OK for them to use the ground. It's not OK for them to want it knocked down and rebuilt to suit them.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
I read in the paper a while back that Lansdown Road has been offered for Ladies and underage GAA matches, for which it is big enough, but the offer has been turned down.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
On the general point: There are people in both soccer and GAA who dislike the other code. To claim otherwise shows up a bias.
Anti GAA the top ten...
1) Glass spreading and the ban
2) The sectarianism and bigotry implicit in the foreign games ban (American Football, Aussie Rules, Boxing are all Irish apparently).
3) Tallaght
4) The way they pay managers and administrators - basically the only people that don't benefit directly are the players
5) "Sales rep" and Bank jobs for the top players as opposed to an equitable pay for play system for all players to keep the so called amateur status.
6) The millions of Government funds that actually went into build Croke Park and other GAA grounds, and the lies about them being great for doing it themselves
7) The political power they wield and the amount of money they get when compared to other sports, when they don't even have the most people playing for them.
8) The way they treat their players and then complain about burn out
9) The way that GAA fans will give you shít for an eL jersey, whilst wearing a Celtic/Liverpool jersey themselves (even when the el jersey is from the same county as they're there to support!)
10) The constant moaning about tickets for big games when the league games have attendances of a few thousand if they're lucky
Well in fairness i do agree with u, hurlings the best game in the world. Nothing comes close to it, and i'm not "that" much of a gaelic footy fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
But i think your comments are a bit unfair, gaelic football did exist in "some" state for a long time before soccer/rugby in their present forms. The rules today may not represent much the "ancient" game but it did still exist.
After all soccer was originally a game played by kicking a ball between 2 people without goalposts etc :P
That's the attitude I've seen a lot, and it doesn't surprise me to see "soccer" fans sore about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
If you want to criticise that, read up on it. The ground's not frigging big enough. The GAA have plenty of facuilities in the area and are either just angling for funding and/or planning permission or they're being spiteful enough to just be hassling Rovers. Either way is a disgrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
Financial Drain ? On the contrary its the opposite. The GAA have never being raking in as much €€€'s and thats before the Rugby or Soccer guys are considered. Just look at attendances in Croke Park the last few years, the concerts (which i disagree with) etc. Its ANYTHING but a financial burden mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Croke Park wasn't built with them in mind but they'll still going to be played there. And about the state money, PLEASE, the FAI and IRFU had access to the same cash if they actually went ahead with a project like the GAA did. And the majority of the cash for Croke Park did not come from the government.Quote:
The GAA has come out now stressing that the dimensions of Lansdowne Rd arent accommodating to GAA games. Fair enough. But Croke Park wasn't built with rugby and football in mind, despite the massive investment of State money, so why should Lansdowne be re-designed to GAA games specifics? And, being prefectly honest, I doubt the FAI and IRFU would dismiss GAA usage of Lansdowne Rd if the GAA is willing to pay the same amount as what the FAI and IRFU are doing to use Croke Park. Have they actually said that Lansdowne Rd is off-limits to the GAA?
I'm not anti-IRFU nor am i anti-FAI, i play rugby with a club here and i used to play soccer. My point is that i am not anti-any sport. I like soccer and Rugby, my point is against people who ARE anti-sport (GAA). Its sickening the way some people are so anti-GAA, even now they've opened Croker people r complaining about them for being anti-IRFU/FAI.Quote:
You started this thread - and the question remains why? Everything you have said is all just general crap without any facts. Why are you so anti FAI and IRFU?
When has it hosted an athletics meet? Now why would that be... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
i can just about watch what they call "football" in the gaa, especially if theres a big melee or Joe Brolly says something ribald but for the life of me hurling is just rubbish to watch, if they took the ball away tv viewers would be none the wiser
I think you'll find that the FAI did plan a similar project but were denied state funding and had to abandon the project in favour of the Bertie Bowl which was never built.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
Monster Trucks meet Rollercoasters (as in monster trucks on rollercoasters) !! :eek: :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
If they took both gaa and hurling out of the stadium onto the streets they would be called riots !! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by wws
Don't be daft. Throwing away decades of tradition of shunning anyone who drives a monster truck? Where would that get us?Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
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Originally Posted by clash
Who are the people that are anti-GAA? I ask again because you are strugglig to give facts. Who are the people that are anti-GAA? And what EL match were you at?
The whinging from GAA folk about Lansdowne and Tallaght makes me sick. They will make at least ten million from opening Croke Park - for one year - and they act like they're doing the nation some great favour. Besides, accomodating football or rugby on a GAA pitch is easy, while vice versa is impossible due to the dimensions involved, so it's just bull to moan about Lansdowne.
Given that the GAA are trying to screw Shamrock Rovers and take Tallaght, I have surrendered my support of the Dublin gaelic footballers and hurlers (which goes back more than 30 years) and I have vowed to never enter Parnell or Croke Park again. I would even be in favour of playing Republic of Ireland 'home' games in Buenos Aires rather than Croke Park given that the GAA are trying to screw Rovers.
The GAA has lost many Rovers fans who supported the Dubs, and I cannot back a sport that is so clearly out to kill something (SRFC) that I love.
As for GAA whingers coming on here with their pious nonsense, give me a break! GAA fans are the most fickle, glory-hunting day-trippers I've ever met in my life. How many Dubs were at Parnell Park when Dublin beat Kilkenny to win the Walsh Cup a few years ago? About 2,000 - and I, a 'sawkir' fan, was one of them. Yet Croke Park will be full of self-proclaimed diehards this summer, many of whom have never even been to Parnell Park.
And they only know two songs.
I am. I fúcking hate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Ah sorry i'm not 100% on the issue your talking about. I didn't know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
On the offer point -> Why would the GAA need/want Landsowne for ladies/underage ? They have more then enough stadia to fill ladies/underage if Croker was ever unavailible. What they don't have is stadia for (or at least stadia in Dublin) to fill senior mens football and hurling.Quote:
I read in the paper a while back that Lansdown Road has been offered for Ladies and underage GAA matches, for which it is big enough, but the offer has been turned down.
On the general point: There are people in both soccer and GAA who dislike the other code. To claim otherwise shows up a bias.
I know there are people in both codes who hate the other. My point is that the vast majority of GAA fans would watch soccer. a LOT of soccer fans wouldn't watch/support GAA.
Best game in the world bar none.Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
Croker was well under construction at that stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
But it was always (last 30 years) probably as big as Lansdowne.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
What ban is that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
1. I'm COI, Sam McGuire was COI and one of the last Presidents of the GAA was COI. Theres no Sectarianism in the GAA.Quote:
2) The sectarianism and bigotry implicit in the foreign games ban (American Football, Aussie Rules, Boxing are all Irish apparently).
2. I don't agree with American Football being played in Croker but they were a "once" off.
Don't know anything about it.Quote:
3) Tallaght
Your point ?Quote:
4) The way they pay managers and administrators - basically the only people that don't benefit directly are the players
Again, your point ?Quote:
5) "Sales rep" and Bank jobs for the top players as opposed to an equitable pay for play system for all players to keep the so called amateur status.
The government funding was relatively small compared to the price of Croke Park and other grounds. The FAI have access to the same funds.Quote:
6) The millions of Government funds that actually went into build Croke Park and other GAA grounds, and the lies about them being great for doing it themselves
1. What political power ?Quote:
7) The political power they wield and the amount of money they get when compared to other sports, when they don't even have the most people playing for them.
2. And what sport has a higher participation then GAA in this country ?
Your point ? If i didn't want to play all year round then i won't. The fact is i do.Quote:
8) The way they treat their players and then complain about burn out
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9) The way that GAA fans will give you shít for an eL jersey, whilst wearing a Celtic/Liverpool jersey themselves (even when the el jersey is from the same county as they're there to support!)
Most GAA league games have higher attendances then EL finals.Quote:
10) The constant moaning about tickets for big games when the league games have attendances of a few thousand if they're lucky
No, but if the GAA get to use soccer grounds then GAA grounds should be available to football and rugby...Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
And they won't be using it for free, it's not like they just decided to play there and went ahead and did it.
Would they watch EL games or are they just glory hunting premiership fans?Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
That i couldn't answer. I wouldn't be overly pushed about watching the premiership but i used to go to a lot of EL games.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
My point is that don't EL people see your losing a lot of potential fans with this anti-GAA bile a lot of EL people have ?
Look at your attendances compared to the GAA, i know myself and several others who have stopped going to my clubs matches because of the vile and filth we've witnessed.
And for the last time i do agree that my club might be worse then others, the town is nothing but a knacker hole and i have met several Cork City and Derry City fans who don't have the feelings towards GAA as my own "towny" countymen.
Well I can say that I have never got that same feeling anytime I have attended a CCFC game at turners cross. I'm sure they are there (just read the CCFC website), but they are not vocal in TC. I can't comment on your town as you have not said where you are from.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash
On that point, i HATE the advert on RTE that has one of the GAA pundits saying "surely we can call ourselves a sports mad country" .... With a rule saying the 'foreign games' cannot be played SURELY says different !! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Lord
How in gods name can you say we are sports mad with that sectarianism existing and no one batting an eyelid .... that fact that they can actually over look that in that advert (which doesn't have an eL) spells it out.
But the 'soccer' they watch is in a country where the game they banned has its origin.Quote:
Originally Posted by clash