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It sounds perfect. I've been to Almondvale, home of Livingston F.C. a few times and have to say it's a lovely little ground. 10,000 all seater enclosed on all sides so if it's anything like that you'll be laughing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougdub
None really... One leaves you with a 10/15 minutes walk through "country lanes" as pete said. Of course the hardcore will travel but only the hardcore going to games has Bohs the wy it is. It needs floating punters and nobody floats by there...Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
When are we goin to be able see some plans of the new stadium?
Good luck to Bohs with it - I think it makes huge sense. Of course losing a ground with such a great tradition wil be sad but in 100 years time Bohs will have another great tradition in Castleknock.
The objections based on moving away from core support completely ignores the demographic trends in Dublin. Those people that support Bohs are moving away from the traditional areas from which support was drawn. It isn't just Bohs that are looking at high property prices in Phibsboro - their supporters are too. More and more the residents close to the city are younger and more transient. A strong sense of community which would have manifested itself in a local football team is not as strong as it was in areas closer to the city. Certainly as people reocate to areas further out from the city centre the community that existed decades ago is less prevalent. Perhaps football clubs need to identify opportunities to help build communities in suburban areas. Who knows, maybe in 25 years time Castleknock might be considered city centre. :)
The new stadium seems to have good access from M50 so IMO this is the sensible thing to do. :ball:
Is there any pics online or anything similiar to what the finished product should look like :confused:
According to Fintan Cassidy on the Shels web Dean Delaney was in Tolka last night after the game.
While there may be buses stopping 10 minutes away from the proposed ground that bus will take an age to get there from civilisation.
IMO the location as currently stands is terrible when compared to Phibsboro. However that may be different in a few years. It does look like a modern Bishopstown though...
With such a sought after site it seem strange that Bohs can't get a better location for a stadium.
Would tend to agree alright. Plus, how often is the train going to be going? Is it the train to Kildare? That's about the most common non-DART or LUAS train, and it goes every half an hour from Heuston. So from town, you're talking 20 minutes to get out to Heuston (that LUAS is bloody slow), 15 minutes waiting on the train, 15 minutes out to wherever and then a 20 minute walk over an hour from town, without getting into town in the first place. If it's on any other line, you're talking even longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
I assume it's not on the LUAS line?? (Not sure where the place is exactly, and never got the Tallaght LUAS...)
You're missing the point - I've taken 45 minutes to get from town to Tolka on a bus through traffic. Tolka's only two miles max from O'Connell Street. This place is even further.
Edit - the train to Coolmine leaves from Connolly, takes just 20 minutes but there's only one every 20-30 minutes during rush hour (compared to busses every five minutes from O'Connell Street to Dalyer or Tolka). If you miss the 7:07 train, the next is at 8:07...
Though as you say, they may become more regular.
I live on the 37 & 39 route (much closer to city centre) & never get the 37 as takes wide scenic route through Blackhourse avenue. The is no comparison with the 37 & 39 & Castleknock Village is major traffic bkackspot with no room for bus lanes.
And your goalkeeper being in your stadium after a game has what to do with Bohs selling Dalymount?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raheny Red
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Originally Posted by Raheny Red
Thats Classic!!!
I can also confirm Jason Byrne was spotted around the dressing room areas about 7:50 ...
Agreed, The 37 is on of those routes that p!ss you off on a regular basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
With more regular trains and the Dart going out the Maynooth way couldn't Bohs arrange shuttle buses from the station, it's not like they won't have the money.
Ah bollicks :p
John was also there :D
Feck that anyway :o
The maynooth train from Connolly to the new Ashtown station will be within walking distanceQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
the 37 bus from hawkins st. will go past the main entrance and I'm sure there will be feeder services to the new housing complexes which are sprouting up all around there. in the opposite direstion the 38 and 39 will also leave you within walking/feeder bus distance. as it stands I've to get a 39 to hanlons corner and walk up to phibsboro so this is deffo good news 4 me. say we are blanch bohs say we are blanch bohs
Have to agree....I know its great for the game and all that, but jesus it's very sad to think about Dalymount being an apartment block or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by chippie0001
Buses eh? Far from buses we were reared, we walked, barefoot through the countryside to watch Jackie Jameson in his pomp, bloody 21st century wimps can't handle a bit of hardship. Get out your high nellie, with one on the bar and one on the back and away with ya!
I voted against, but I'm not going to knock the proposal now that it's democratically decided.
However, there's a lot of work to be done on transport and access, leaving aside planning and zoning, if this stadium is to work.
A 39 inwards to Hanlon's Corner is a different proposition entirely to a 39 outwards at 6.45 on a Friday night.
Someone who has some say in this (and there were plenty of experts at the meeting last night) needs to stand for a while during a weekday anywhere by the single lane between the Cabra Garda Station and the Ashtown roundabout. From here begins what is surely one of the most congested roads network on the island.
At present, as mentioned on the Bohs board, the most realistic transport solution is a fast-loading human catapult from Liffey Valley.
While I am really sad that Dalymount will be gone for nostalgic reasons, no club could turn down such a deal.
Cannot help comparing this to the sale of Milltown which lined the pockets of a few and spelled disaster for Rovers.
This deal secures Boh's future and guarantees success (will now be the Chelsea of L of I ). Supporters rule OK.
It guarentees nothng...
Its already Guaranted us €2m that will clear our debts and keep us in good shape for quite a while regardless of whether or not we get the stadium which IMO its practically gauranteed we will. so I think your jumping to the wrong conclusionQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Sorry to see Dalymount go but good luck to Bohs in what they're doing. Could yous ship the Jodi stand out to Bray since yous are finished with it??
Will be strange to travel through Phibsboro and not have the big floodlights there :(
Hopefully location-wise it's good for Bohs fans so that they can still get there and maybe attract a few more people from the new area.
Best of luck.
I imagine parts of the ground could certainly be recycled...a lot of seats there which could be installed in a different ground?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seagull
And of course, the pitch....it has to be auctioned in square yards so we can all have a bit of Dalymount growing in our back gardens! YES I AM SERIOUS
I'm With you on that buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by el punter
Gonna take a chisel down there for the last game a get a bit of the shed end terracing it will go well with the lump of the KOP Ive got
My cousin who is a Chelsea season ticket holder has seats from the old stand at Stamford Bridge on his patio. The club sold them off to fans.
They're the old-fashioned cast-iron ones with wooden seat and seat back.
The penalty spot should be presented to Barry :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by el punter
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Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
If you get in the ground with a chisel I'm going to have to start believing what the Rovers fans post up here about Bohs security arrangements :)
So long as we're not the last team to play in Dalyer, it's fine by me!
Though the thought of a thousand Bohs fans in the ground armed with chisels is alomst as disturbing as it is hilarious!
I think if building a 10m+ stadium could at least use new seats. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by el punter
Not in the new stadium ya stocking...to pass on to some other club that could do with picking up some seating on the cheap. Or to take inspiration from Chelsea and use as patio furnitureQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
:)
and I think it's very doubtful that the new stadium will hold 10 million
(sorry one from the Totti joke book)
Whats all this nonsense about the time it takes to get to th enew ground from the city centre? Who travels to matches from the city centre? Very few peoplelive in the city centre - the important thing is car access and parking etc. A greenfield site provides scope for parking facilities. Giving up a 10k stadium and €26m because some lad wants to be on a bus route don't make sense.....:)
good deal overall but crap location !!
The city centre is a way point. For many of us, travelling across Dublin involves a changeover in the city centre. For away Dublin fans, this concerns us and that will concern Bohs because they'll be expecting their best crowds to come from facing the other big Dublin clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by LFC in Exile
I know your messing but that would be a fab gestureQuote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
Got into Anfield with a kango hammer security smegurity :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by el punter
Exactly. I travel from Foxrock for every game, which involves a 46A into town and then a 78A (to Richmond), a walk (to Dalyer) or a whatever bus or a walk out to Tolka. By the time I get into town, it's about 6:30, so there's a big difference between a ten minute walk once I get off my bus and a trip to Connolly, waiting half an hour on a train, spending 15 minutes on it and then walking 15 minutes to some random ex-field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
if you're going to go to all that trouble, I'd head for the right ex- field; with your random method, it could be years before you see a Bohs/ UCD match againQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
If you can afford to live in Foxrock you should be getting a taxi out to Castleknock for each game :pQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
:D
Worst that's going to happen is I'll get to share some locals' tins!
el - I work in Foxrock. Big difference!