laughable or typical ?
Great guy but please dont take the job . If it all goes wrong it could be the end of his management career before it starts.
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laughable or typical ?
Great guy but please dont take the job . If it all goes wrong it could be the end of his management career before it starts.
Their goal is to make money and unless there is an insider informed flood of money on a candidate they should make a packet. I believe they have been stung by such coups in the past and therefore have to keep their antennas tuned in to market moves and interview prospects. Eirebhoy already pointed out that after the interview rumour/fact about Staunton emerged the odds went down to 4/1 against the appointment. That suggests to me that the Bookies are relaxed about Stauntons's chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coltron
Former Republic of Ireland international Mark Kinsella has advanced the claims of Steve Staunton for the Irish manager’s job – even revealing that he has backed his Walsall colleague at 50/1 to replace Brian Kerr!
Staunton has emerged as the bookmakers’ favourite in recent days amid reports of a meeting with the FAI’s top brass.
The Dundalk man’s lack of management experience is seen by many as a serious negative – but Kinsella feels his fellow player-coach at the Bescot Stadium would be a good choice by the Association.
He told the Irish Sun: “We have all been giving him a bit of a ribbing about it and I even put a bet on him at 50/1, but that was more out of interest than me having any inside information.
“I think he would be a good choice. He gets on well with all of the players. He was playing for Ireland recently enough so it’s not as though he doesn’t know them already.”
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysing...p?newsid=19790
It seems the story in the Mirror is a load of rubbish as he hasn't heard anything:
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Walsall manager Paul Merson highlighted that fact, and has made it clear he will not stand in Staunton’s way should the FAI make an approach.
“He is respected in Ireland, and I think the fans would want it,” said Merson on Sky Sports News.
“He would be a good choice by the FIA, but he hasn’t heard anything, and that’s the thing. Although we talk about it every morning because it’s in the papers.
“To be fair, I’d be one of the first to know if there was anything because it would be up to me to let him go.
“But I’d back him. Everybody who plays football would love to manage their country one day, so if it came along, then of course I’d let him go. No worries about that.”
The FAI are maintaining a deadpan line, confirming nothing more than their “process is ongoing” according to a spokesman.
But the misleading spin headline on that story is
"Merson gives Staunton the green light" :)
Would anyone like Alan Curbishely ??
(theres a rumour he might be leaving Charlton ... shhh)
Staunton's replacing Bernie Ecclestone now?!Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Have we had any reputable sources for this yet?
Apparently Merson has given the all clear for Staunton to talk to the FAI about the job if he is approached:eek: I am beginning to get a bad feeling about this. IMO he is not a credible option at this stage in his managerial/coaching career.
I can't believe how many of you have clearly missed the point about staunton. I've watched him play ball since I was wee and he was a teenager at liverpool. geysir had it right. .the only one with the nuts to stand up to keane. A yes man? arse. yes he stood up for mick but out of conviction that it was the way forward for the team in the WC. best to get the keane thing out of the way as the damage was done.
as regards his coaching skills, if he's manager he should have someone with experience beside him but with regard to getting the most out of our 'superstars'
I can think of few better.
'we don't get beat... we don't get fooking beat!!!'
he's not the best choice perhaps. but he's by no means the worst.
That's the problem you see,we always settle for second best in this country.The FAI need to get it right this time,there can be no mistakes,we need to qualify for the next tournament or we will end up going down the same road as Scotland or N.Ireland,the position should be taken by somebody with plenty of experience not somebody who's a wet weekend in the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamo kerry
Stan is 5/6 fav for the job now!!
At the end of the day, The FAIlure has to get someone who either is very expensive but has proved himself at the highest level or someone who has never managed before but has the potential there. A classic example would be Man citys coach, Peirce.
I think the FAIlure has decided to try the second approach since its the cheapest. If Stan does the business then it will be a fantastic swred move, if we dont qualify for Euro 2008 we will all be looking for a major clear out at merrion square.
I wouldn't put it beyond the FAI to be leaking names like Stan - he seems not to know anything about himself, so quite possibly hasn't been approached - so that when we do end up with Bryan Robson, we'll be relieved and think they've done a great job.
its all getting very worrying. all we have to date is top managers saying they're not interested
and inexperienced past players, failed epl managers and has beens (or more probably has not beens) like venebles and bobby robson being linked with the job. a bad appointment now could set us back 10 years easily. why get rid of kerr with no better alternative lined up??!
surely we deserve better than this circus
Knowing that qualification for Euro 2008 will be the only yardstick by which success is measured, Stuart Pearce or any other up and coming EPL or Championship manager is not likely to want to take this job, certainly until the draw has been made in January and then only if the financial package is one that would compensate them for being out of the club game for 2 years at least. If Stuart Pearce has any ambition of managing a national team it will be England, and he has a good chance of getting it some day if he stays in top flight club football management.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
I would be surprised if Delaney and co. have not already sussed out (a) who is available (b) when they are available (c) if they want the job (d) how much they want for doing it.
Four scenarios for me:
1. no top flight manager wants the job regardless of how much
2. no top flight manager wants the job at the price FAI are willing to pay
3. a number of inexperienced managers (probably ex-Ireland internationals) prepared to use the opportunity to make their mark.
4. a 'big name high profile' failed EPL manager arrives in a blaze of glory.
As 1 and 2 are non-runners, I would consider 3 a better option than 4 and think they should just get on with and appoint someone.
Staunton:eek: !!!! I'm in shock. I would love to hear a Roy Keane rant on this one. I suppose he'll have big Quinn and Alan Kelly as his assistants.
FAI JOKERS.
In my opinion this would be the worst thing the FAI have EVER done!
Worse than the time they let that escaped lunatic into Merrion Square 'cause he was dressed like Santa Claus?
The FAI should just get that fellah who manages U2. That would be a big hit with the young people.
Does anyone know what Staunton currently does at Walsall - what do they think of him?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Despite Holland and Germany going down the path of inexperienced former players, Ireland definitely need an experienced manager. That said I think I'd rather Staunton to Troussier.
Has anyone heard the rumours about Hiddink. His names starting to appear on a number of sites.
Yes, saw a rumour of Hiddink putting his name in the hat for the job....think it stemed from the Daily Mail though!!
it's been on the radio all morning saying he's in talks with the FAI!!
I don't like him at all he doesn't come across as a competent leader and has NO managerial experience :mad:
All the signs are pointing towards Stan being the man but I’m still not sure, I think he’ll be the No.2 to someone more experienced. Remember how Delaney wanted Kerr to be No. 2 last time round with a view to taking over later could be the same again here. Well that’s what I’m hoping anyway, been laying Stan on Betfair, stand to recoup some of my massive gambling losses if he doesn’t get it!
I think Stan by himself would be the third cheap compromise in a row, so yet again we'll be sold short of what we deserve. I'd be totally underwhelmed by this. A half-decent choice but not the major O'Neill, Ranieri type appointment that could really make the difference.
The only positive I can think of is that having been picked for euro88 himself without ever having played a club game, I hope he'll appreciate the merit of picking the young players with most potential for the squad. I thought Kerr was far too hung up on experience.
I wonder would there be some type of agreement that if, say O'Neill, was to accept at a later date he'd step aside into a no. 2 position, but for now he's the manager?
It looks like a dead cert at this stage, looks like the FAI are going for the easy & chaep option once again!! He's hardly the liveliest person in the world, so we could expect a boring Ireland team!!
Staunton is not the man we need at this stage. Assistant coach at Walsall! The laughable chip on the shoulder nonsense. Great player in his time but the logic in appointing someone with NO managerial experience anywhere would be madness.
Before Kerr was given the Job, Delaney's preference was for an experienced foreigner/inexperienced Irishman combination in Troussier/Kerr, with the idea to move Kerr into the hot seat after a couple of years as #2.
I think this may have proved successful in hindsight.
I'd imagine though that his thinking on this hasn't changed, I can't see a situation where he will follow Kerr with another manager so inexperienced at Senior Level. The third soft-option manager in a row.
If Staunton is in talks, I'd guess someone else has been approached as well.
Reid/Staunton
Troussier/Staunton
even
O'Neill/Staunton (with the former in a temporary/part-time role)
are all more likely (and preferrable) outcomes IMO than Staunton on his own.
Remember the potential candidate's odds slashed by the bookies already though, they're having a field day.
Another post suggests Bobby Robson & Staunton, that wouldn't be too bad....
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PUT SIR BOBBY IN CHARGE !
Come on FAI , you finally have a chance to put a 'professional' in charge. Put SBR at the helm , let Staunton learn off him for a campaign and Im sure every fan would be happy.
I cant think of a better person in charge than SBR. World cup quarter and semi finallist , in charge of umpteen clubs around europe , he has seen just about every style of football possible. Who wouldnt want to play under him ?
SBR number one , Stan number two and we really could bring the side along.
Is the big story not of Venables and Staunton?
That seemed to be the combination all over the papers yesterday anyway.
Not a big fan of either.
I like the suggestions of Stan as a no 2 to an experienced coach, have my reservations about Ranieri. But can we simply expect two people who dont know each other to work together with no problems, like have Stan and Venables ever met??
O'Neill is still my main choice and I really think the drawn out process is largely a waiting period for him.
Haven't really been following it in recent weeks because I got sick of it,
But Robson/Staunton sounds decent enough to me.
heard des cahill mention robson and staunton on 11.0 news.
wonder what paper he got that from ... first i've heard of it but at this stage, an acceptable combination
It happens all the time. Hughton has been assistant to a load of coaches at Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
if Stan is just the assistant then all those heavy bets have been chasing a fools paradise. I'd imagine Stan will get the nr.1 title and imo probably Robson to assist. It is less likely that Venables would be content with a nr.2 position.
It looks certain that Stan will be assistant.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0109/ireland.html
Monday, 09 January 2006 12:30
Speculation is mounting that former Republic of Ireland international defender Steve Staunton will form some part of a new Irish management team.
While the FAI have refused to comment on the possible appointment of Staunton as a possible successor to Brian Kerr, RTÉ Radio believes a deal that will see Staunton work with the Irish team has been agreed.
It is believed that three FAI representatives flew into Manchester yesterday, spoke with Staunton, and agreed a deal.
It is also understood that the FAI are keen to have a more experienced management partner working alongside Staunton, and have asked former England and Newcastle United manager Bobby Robson not to talk to anybody else.
Terry Venables has also been mentioned widely as a possible successor to Kerr, but while there are still several elements to confirm, it now looks very much like Steve Staunton and Bobby Robson will be the new Irish management team.
PJ Cunningham was first to mention this possibility in yesterday's Sunday Tribune.
For the record I did not call them fools. To use quotes around fools is entirely your own creationQuote:
for every "fool" backing Staunton on Betfair some other "fool" is laying the bet.
Rather it looks certain that Stan will at least be an assistant.Quote:
It looks certain that Stan will be assistant.
A day in the life of Steve Staunton as Ireland Manager...
team: what do we do Stan?
Stan: whenever you get the ball boot it down the flank,
team: hoof down the flank, you sure?
Stan: no I didn't say hoof, make sure it skips along the ground so where it actually ends up is completely random, sometimes you can win throw ins like that,
team: you know its not 1986 anymore boss
Stan: don't you think I know that, now so who should we organize a friendly against? USSR or Czechoslovakia?
team: ermm....
Stan: and luton town are still a top divison club right, now were did I part my delorean? god michael jackson is really black isn't he, i don't think this internet thing will catch on,
team: so who you gonna play in midfield without keano?
stan: oh that's not important, sure there's no real need for a midfield in todays modern game, they'll just be watching the ball sail over there heads, I don't think these shorts are tight enough!
team: not to convinced about that, but your the boss,
Stan: oh, and if we get a corner, shoot! I once scored doing that, and that was along the groud too,
team: we just thought that was a really bad cross,
Stan: cross? what's that?
team: so were all set to qualify for the next world cup boss?
Stan: hell no! I'm not going anywere sunny, I have sensitive skin you know!
:D
If the odds on Betfair are too low to have a bet on Stan (1.18), then I was going to plump for the 8.4 you get for Bobby Robson as he is rumoured to be the other manager touted to work with Staunton!! If that did come off, woul the bookies pay on Stan & Robson??Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
The more I think about it. I think Robson with Staunton as assistant would be a very good appointment. Give Robson a 4 year contract with Staunton groomed to take over.