Minimum: Top 3 in league/getting into UEFA, Win one round in Europe, good Setanta/FAI cup runs.
Hoping: Retain the title, win a cup and get to third Qual round of CL.
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Minimum: Top 3 in league/getting into UEFA, Win one round in Europe, good Setanta/FAI cup runs.
Hoping: Retain the title, win a cup and get to third Qual round of CL.
Minimum:
- Finishing better than last season
- moving into new stadium as planned in June
- keeping a manager for an entire season
Hoping:
- Promotion (by any means. Winning a playoff agianst Longford would be nice)
- big sponsorship/investment
- a cup run would be nice
(I dont ask for much :p )
To be fair Tiktok, Cork should be looking to finish first and no less IMO. Finishing 3rd would be hugely disappointing for your club I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
you should expect to match last year's achievements, and hope to improve upon them IMO.
Minimum: Mid Table
Hoping: Top 4 and to beat Dungdalk everytime we play them.
Bohemians should be hoping for Europe or Setanta, but for the first time since supporting Bohs I am not confident going into a new season. We'll see.
If finishing 1st is a minimum how do you improve on that? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
Well smartarss, winning by more points, doing better in Europe, doing better in the Setanta Cup, the League Cup and the FAI Cup would all count as a better season. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
I agree we should be looking to finish first.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
I hope we do, in fact I expect we will, but the minimum I will accept is getting back into Europe next season. That was the question ;)
Only the first actually would be counted as an improvement on finishing first, and then only if they finished first again, obviously. Seeing as they won the league with a record points haul last season, an increase certainly shouldn't be the "minimum" expected. You have to have realistic minimums or else you're going to end up really disappointed at the end of every season.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
Fair enough, you don't want to get Newcastle United syndrome by having your fans settle for second best when you have what it takes to be the best though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
IMO it is Rico's job to improve Cork City, anything less than last year's achievements would be a failure, not saying that he should be sacked if they finish second though.
Only a Bohs fan would set a minimum goal as winning the league by more points. FFS who gives a crap how many points you win a league by. Might explain why so many Bohs managers hounded out by their supporters. :rolleyes:
How many Bohs managers were hounded out by Bohs fans in recent years? One. Peter "Do a trick Trevor" Mahon.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
McGrath was sacked before any backlash. Luckily for us.
Roddy was sacked because of a clash with the board and contract issues. Nothing to do with fans.
Mahon, OK yes. He was a disaster though and he should have been pushed before he jumped. Were the fans wrong to be unhappy with the best and most expensive team in Ireland fighting relegation?
Kenny as Bohs manager got stick for one game, and only for about 20 minutes of that game. He even says that himself. Hounded out? Obviously not.
Farrelly is manager and isn't getting any stick.
How many Cork managers have been hounded out by the fans in recent years? More than Bohs I would guess.
EDIT: You are also twisting my words. I said in the original post "you should expect to match last year's achievements, and hope to improve upon them IMO." No mention of points. When you amazingly asked how Cork could have a better season I gave several examples of how you could, one of which was winning the league more comfortably. Though rolling your eyes gives your post an amazing credibility.
What about...Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
(That it wasn't in your initial post is irrelevant - you did mention points)Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
He asked how you could improve on first in the league. Sensible answer - you can't. Your answer - progress further in Europe, Setanta, etc, none of which has anything to do with the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
I acknowledged that in my last post. And the thread is titled 2006 season, not 2006 league.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Minimum is not the same as expectation. It is the minimum you will accept before season is a disaster.
City fans will expect the team to win the league but minimum for all the top clubs is European qualification & not sure if InterTwoBob counts as that anymore.
Reading your posts on our hopes/expectations for next season is irritating. The best thing for you to do, I humbly suggest, is to stick to the hopes/expectations for Bohs forthcoming season and leave us out of your banal musings.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
Tough to say at this early stages with any new signings or players leaving, but...........
Minimum - To finish outside the bottom 2 places and have a decent cup run, like last season
Hoping - With the right signings we can finish in the top half of the league table, maybe even a european place or a cup win this time around. Investment into the club to drive us forward to take on the likes of Shels, Derry Cork and Drogs. A new Carlisle Grounds please ;-)
Get your head out of your arss you twot. Any Cork fan who says that they won't be calling Richardson a "langer" if he doesn't bring home the bacon this year is a liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by coislaoi
Still waiting for the Big Clubs expectations...Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
They're in my first post that you have read so thoroughly you little genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how many managers us big bad Bohs fans "hounded" out, and how many Cork fans did.
That's good yeah - resort to personal insults. I REPEAT, stick to your own club's hopes/expectations. Leave us liars/langers/twots (and whatever else you want to call us) out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
BTW you should read all your posts again. A mass of contradictions.;)
First PostQuote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
:confused:
However in another post you mention what you hoping for so no minimum expectation...
I would say just Liam Murphy could be described in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
Moderator Hat: Please refrain from Personal Attacks. You know the rules. If you cannot debate inside the rules go elsewhere.
Mod edited : Stay on topic
Min------Survival
hoping---win the League
Minimum: That I can enjoy a fair sporting competition without any silly changes to the league format being introduced.
Hopeing: Qualify for the UEFA through the fair play award, beat Barcelona in the final having knocked out Celtic and Man United along the way and for Trinity to finish bottom of the U21 league.
Min for me is a Top 2 finsh in the Lge
Hoping Get though atleast one round in the Champs Lge and win eatier the Setanta or the FAI Cup.
Minimum: Survival.
Hoping: A stress-free season this time, top 6 finish and a greater support from the Waterford public.
Then you shouldn't have quoted the part of the post which specifically referred to Cork's league spot. You can't expect to improve on first in the league with a record points haul.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
Still you are harping on about one of several elaborations made when I was asked how Cork can have a better season? Why exactly? Your opinion on this matter is clear, as is mine, give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Actually that's not true. They could get even more points next season, score more goals and concede less. That would all be an improvement with Cork City in the league;) :p. I feel so honoured, I proved a UCD fella wrong:rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Minimum: Survival but hopefully things wont get that bad.Good football,if its not produced this season,adios alan.Under 21s given a chance.
Hoping: Regular bigger attendances.Some under 21s breaking through.Good cup runs and maybe another final appearance.4th
Minimum: Gonna say survival but I think we will be ok.
Hoping: Good position in the league, larger crowds in Flancare, am I asking to much for a cup final?
But my point the whole way is that can't be a minimum expectation - a hope maybe, but not an expectation. So ThatGuy was, in my opinion, wrong to knock Tiktok's minimum expectation when in fact the pos was about the first recorded evidence of a Cork fan with his feet actually somewhere near the ground!Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
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Originally Posted by sligoman
that year out really is paying off sligoman:rolleyes: :D
Minimum - Fifth in the league, a couple of good cup runs.
Hoping - To win the league, but top 3 (with Euro and Setanta qualification) would be a significant improvement.
Like That Guy, not too confident about the season ahead...
Minimum: A Cup, good run in Europe, top two
Hoping: Win everything we are in and qualify for UEFA Cup thru intertoto, all Irish sides do well in Europe and for everything I have planned to work :)
As a Longford man my expectations for the coming season are very low. We've lost a couple of quality players and there are no signs as yet of any quality replacements. In addition to other areas we also lack a natural goal scorer and I was half hoping that we might snatch Kevin McCugh. I've little faith in the current management set up and i'm predicting a long hard season which will probably end up at mid-table mediocrity.
Minimum: top two finish in the league, winning some silverwear and doing well in Europe
Hopefully: League Champions, Setanta cup winners, FAI Cup Winners,Intertoto cup winners, Uefa Cup.... ok i'll stop now.
I'm also hopefull I won't have to rely on Gareth for updates as much this season as I'll actually get to more games.
Not too much to ask is it. :D