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Originally Posted by goattail

I see some of the dimmer Bohs fans here are dancing with glee to see Rovers go down. Idiots, do you really think Bohs of all clubs can afford to loose such a lucrative fixture to be replaced by a team that may not even exist this time next year and will only bring a handfull of fans to Dalymount park next season. It is a tragedy to see any club go down for the first time after 8 decades of league membership especially because of a points deduction caused by two *****s that almost killed the club and who no longer have any association with the club.
At least Cork and Derry city did the league a favour by spreading the success around the country and giving the league a great finish.

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It's called rivalry you mong.
What is it with Rovers fans that they think everybody else needs them. I suppose the likes of Kilkenny City and Monaghan Utd will be deleriously happy that they are now potential multi-millionaires on the back of the mighty Rovers playing them in a match.

In case you didn't notice the Bohs/Rovers fixture is worth as much in money terms to Rovers as it is to Bohs. But you guys also have to miss out on your lucrative fixtures against Shels, Pats, Cork, and Drogheda. You will also feel the bite of reduced sponsorship and the cost of every away game being something you have to travel to. Also the floating hoop fan might just decide to drive his taxi or deal his drugs instead of going to see you play at home to Cobh Ramblers. So lap it up.

Don't worry about us, Bohemians have lots of latent resourses we'll get over the financial "disaster" of not having to host you scumbags. In fact a little birdie has told me that the 400 Club have already made an approach to Bohemians about renting Dalymount Park next season - looks like we might be leeching more money out of your coffers yet.

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Dublin City are a joke of a club with no fans, no soul and no home. How anybody can celebrate their ascension up to the premier is beyond me. What good is a club that brings no fans to games, apart from a dedicated soul with a loud drum? Or when you go to play them away from home, the ground (wherever that will be this time) is like a morgue, except for same soul with drum? It's depressing, and it's even more depressing when you see them and their empty ground on tv. As far as i'm concerned they're a fabricated club going nowhere in the long term. I think the travesty is that a club like this keeps taking up a place in the premier every second season.

Rovers on the other hand are a good club with a great history, who are striving to do their best to get themselves back in order after years of mismanagement. Granted a lot of their fans are scumbags, but a lot of them are also among the most dedicated in Europe and the 400club is evidence of that. I'd take them anyday over Irelands version of MK Dons (minus the fans). Dublin City are no addition to the premier, so I can't see how tonight is good for the league.....

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Exactly. Today was a bad day for Irish football and i think nearly everyone here can agree on that...:(

bad news for Rovers but worse for the league !!

All efforts now have to be summoned to gt Rovers back up .... everyone involved needs to get behind this and get back up asap. There is a wealth of experience there and all this needs to come inot play.

Best of luck to all the hoops ... there is a short journey back up if there are many traveling together !! :ball:

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Dublin City are a joke of a club with no fans, no soul and no home. How anybody can celebrate their ascension up to the premier is beyond me. What good is a club that brings no fans to games, apart from a dedicated soul with a loud drum? Or when you go to play them away from home, the ground (wherever that will be this time) is like a morgue, except for same soul with drum? It's depressing, and it's even more depressing when you see them and their empty ground on tv. As far as i'm concerned they're a fabricated club going nowhere in the long term. I think the travesty is that a club like this keeps taking up a place in the premier every second season.

Rovers on the other hand are a good club with a great history, who are striving to do their best to get themselves back in order after years of mismanagement. Granted a lot of their fans are scumbags, but a lot of them are also among the most dedicated in Europe and the 400club is evidence of that. I'd take them anyday over Irelands version of MK Dons (minus the fans). Dublin City are no addition to the premier, so I can't see how tonight is good for the league.....

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Say what you will about Dublin and their fanbase, they wont try any b*ll*cks like trying to storm the away section after matches. I wont miss that, and they're promoted on merit. If they bring nothing to the league it's upto everyone else to be better than them and force them back down.

I don't know about the rest of you but I go to games to support my team. It doesn't matter if we're playing Kilkenny in a sloped field in a pre-season friendly or Derry in a League Cup final, I will be there and I will enjoy it if we win and hate it if we lose. I don't rely on the opposition and their fans to make it enjoyable for me. I won't actually miss Rovers and I say that with my hand on my heart. My team makes my games for me. If we play well I am happy, if they don't, then I am not. Rovers don't even bring anything to Belfield. Last time they barely even brought any fans.

Dublin City are there on merit, they've invested so much time and effort in their club to get back into the Premier and for a club only 4/5 years old as far as I'm concerned they're a huge credit to this league and they don't come full of crap that comes with Rovers.

There's no point moaning now Rovers, you got what you deserved. Your club has made a mockery of our domestic league in recent years be it from finances to doing absolutely nothing about your hoolie problem. I personally will be happier attending matches with Dublin City rather than going to watch Shels playing Rovers knowing there's going to be some sort of hoolie trouble.

If you sort yourselves out next season from getting your house in order and finally acknowledging and doing something about your hooligan problem then I'll welcome you guys back in the Premier.

Dublin City are the winners tonight and everyone should give them the deserved credit they are due.

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Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man

It's called rivalry you mong.
What is it with Rovers fans that they think everybody else needs them. I suppose the likes of Kilkenny City and Monaghan Utd will be deleriously happy that they are now potential multi-millionaires on the back of the mighty Rovers playing them in a match.

In case you didn't notice the Bohs/Rovers fixture is worth as much in money terms to Rovers as it is to Bohs. But you guys also have to miss out on your lucrative fixtures against Shels, Pats, Cork, and Drogheda. You will also feel the bite of reduced sponsorship and the cost of every away game being something you have to travel to. Also the floating hoop fan might just decide to drive his taxi or deal his drugs instead of going to see you play at home to Cobh Ramblers. So lap it up.

Don't worry about us, Bohemians have lots of latent resourses we'll get over the financial "disaster" of not having to host you scumbags. In fact a little birdie has told me that the 400 Club have already made an approach to Bohemians about renting Dalymount Park next season - looks like we might be leeching more money out of your coffers yet.

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Quite. Simply. Sad.

Firstly, I do want to be overly patronised by people saying oh wouldn't it be great if Rovers were there instead, but "rivalry" is obviously mistaken for obsession by some 'rivals'.

Secondly, I am not going to bother getting into a pointless argument with any Bohs fan tonight. Tonight, for me, has nothing to do with Bohs fans.:rolleyes:

Zipedeedoodaa, Zipedeedooday, my oh my, what (another) beautiful day!

Fantastic night for Irish football, delighted to see the homeless where they belong! Well done, Dublin City, you've made a lot of Bohs fans very, very happy.

Champagne anyone?

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Originally Posted by A face

bad news for Rovers but worse for the league !!

All efforts now have to be summoned to gt Rovers back up .... everyone involved needs to get behind this and get back up asap. There is a wealth of experience there and all this needs to come inot play.

Best of luck to all the hoops ... there is a short journey back up if there are many traveling together !! :ball:

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disagree with you there Face , if they are good enough to come up they will and if they arent welll they wont.

Besides, finally, next season the premier league might have that strong Rovers team it apparently needs. Good luck to Sligo.

No club is bigger than the league and no club deserves the right to be in the Premier division.

The league didn't lose anything tonight and it didn't gain anything either.

I think people jumping in feet first to post now is stupid .... let it lie and reply tomorrow. The impact on the league will be sizable i would think despite what singular opinions might be.

As i said ... Rovers should take stock and look and gather resources to get back up, all focus should be on that.

One thing is for sure this is great for the 1st Divison....adds a bit of interest to it.Galway,Harps,Rovers....3 clubs who should be in the premier and one of them is guaranteed at least 2 more years in this **** hole of a league.Can't wait for next year.....bar us nobody in this league brings an away support(sligo are up)so at least there will be 4 matches with great atmosphere's in Terryland next year.:)

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Originally Posted by gustavo

disagree with you there Face , if they are good enough to come up they will and if they arent welll they wont.

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Absolutely, Athlone Town and Dundalk, to name just two clubs, were massive clubs in the eL within the last 20 years. What f**king right do the Shambles have ahead of these? None whatsoever! This homeless arselicking is pathetic. They're down now, they have the to earn the right to be back up with the BIG CLUB & Co.

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Originally Posted by A face

The impact on the league will be sizable i would think despite what singular opinions might be.

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How Aface? Apart from some individual subjective opinions how they enjoy the atmosphere of playing Rovers, how will there be a sizeable impact on the league?

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Originally Posted by A face

I think people jumping in feet first to post now is stupid .... let it lie and reply tomorrow. The impact on the league will be sizable i would think despite what singular opinions might be.

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How so? Honestly, if they were going out of business I'd feel sorry for them, but they're only going down a division ffs. If it is so disasterous for the premier then it's surely fantastic for the first division.

I don't see why it's such a disaster though, as Bohs Till I Die said, the added revenue of a dublin derby with them is compensated by the security costs the scum that attaches itself to their club generates. To clubs outside Dublin they'll barely notice the difference except maybe Cork who seem to have a bit of a rivalry with them that can boost gates.

Athlone and Dundalk .... and Limerick and Waterford to boot, were great in their hay-day (sp?) .... i am not saying that ..... what i am saying is that Shamrock Rovers were the league at one stage, and that was a long long stage .... more people across Europe, IF they have heard of Ireland probably know of Rovers .... and none else ...... no Athlone, Dundalk, Limerick, Waterford ... even Cork City :) .... that is what we'll miss .... i know people dont see this straight away .... but time will tell if they are no back up quick smart !!

They're not gone out of existence, only relegated. And history has nothing to do with their current team and clown of a manager.

And tbh thanks to the Deportivo thing last year that foreigners thing isn't true now anyway I'd say.

Anyway, I would not be suprised to see them in the premier divison next season. The FAI afterall haven't decided how many teams we'll have next year, and wont do until febuary. What a competent bunch of people :)

Bad Day for Rovers, Great Day for Socialism

James Connolly and Larkin will be cheering,
Behold the red flag fluttering on high.
Its what the aristocracy was fearing,
As peasants smash the windows at Versailles.

The Internationale sounds out strongly,
As gold is snatched from fat and grubby hands.
The so-called experts all forecast it wrongly –
A ray of hope goes out to many lands.

For too long now the Premier Division
Has creamed what cash our football generates,
While lesser clubs are treated with derision
And forced to live off ever-dwindling gates.

But now the mighty Rovers are defeated
Their Majesties are slickly overthrown,
And next year their supporters will be treated
To trips to lovely Limerick and Athlone.

To Monaghan and Galway and Kilkenny,
The Hoops will bring their monetary support.
And yes, they’re sure to spend a pretty penny
At clubs who’ve been financially distraught.

So up and holler Vive la Revolution!
And raise a glass to Dermot Keely’s health.
For Dublin City’s perfect execution
Redistributed some of football’s wealth.

Dublin City are there ON MERIT.
We can all safely bring our loved ones to Dublin City games.
Bye bye Rovers

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

clown of a manager.

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If there was ever a guy you couldn't rely on !! :( :o :mad:

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Originally Posted by 1 9 2 8

Quit with the smiley faces sligoman

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Feck off, no I wont!:mad: :p.

Sligoman, fair play on your sig...Any tips for the weekend?? :)

The first thing to say is congrats to Dublin City on their promotion. Whether I like it or not they clearly deserve it. They had the all important momentum going into the playoffs whereas Shamrock Rovers on the other hand were like a deflating balloon.:eek:

Whatever your views on Shamrock Rovers and their "scum element" (which most clubs have to one degree or another) their demotion to the first division is not good news for the league overall. I know that most Cork City fans look to the fixture list to see when and where we are playing the Hoops. They bring the biggest away following to Turners Cross and always create atmosphere. Bohs fans, what are you guys going to do without your Dublin derbys and always guaranteed 1/2 biggest gates of the season?

No disrespect to Dublin City, who I re-iterate are there on merit, but they have no fans and an absolute príck of a chairman/chief executive/owner.

I never thought I would say it but, Shamrock Rovers we will miss you.:(

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Originally Posted by sfc red

Sligoman, fair play on your sig...Any tips for the weekend??

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:D, it's been there since pre-season, I'm just glad it's finally come true:). About 2 months ago a Shams fan told me it was time to change it cos it wasn't gonna happen:rolleyes:.

Rovers are dead, long live the rovers.

They deserve to be where they are. Sligo bring alot more to the premier then shams. Firstly a ground and better support. lets see how much of these "loyal" fans pay into 1st div games next year. I bet you harps and galway will have bigger attendences

The Rovers board last season to my mind did a most unforgivable thing - they poached the manager from the only team that could relegate them, with three games left to go in the season. Whatever the rights and wrongs of Roddy's decision to jump ship when he did, what the Board of Rovers did was totally unethical and immoral.
It doesn't often happen, but when it does, its sweet.
What goes around, comes around.

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Originally Posted by The Sheliban

The Rovers board last season to my mind did a most unforgivable thing - they poached the manager from the only team that could relegate them, with three games left to go in the season. Whatever the rights and wrongs of Roddy's decision to jump ship when he did, what the Board of Rovers did was totally unethical and immoral.
It doesn't often happen, but when it does, its sweet.
What goes around, comes around.

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People should not forget that like many other things this was not a Rovers first. Drogs did the same to UCD three seasons ago. Only it backfired and almost relegated them.:D

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Originally Posted by junkie

No club is bigger than the league and no club deserves the right to be in the Premier division

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100% spot on there!

As much as I hate those swines Keely and Sneery, they're there on merit.

Wait for the obvious High Court challenge over the 8 point deduction.

Continuity Home Farm may deserve to be in the Prem by merit, but by any other measure they shouldn't be there.

They will bring nothing - repeat, NOTHING to the Premiership.

We've swopped one Homeless Dublin-based club run by fans and with decent support for another homeless Dublin-based club run by a delusional **** and with absurdly little support. I challenge any Dublin City fan to tell me how that is good for the Premier division. You are the Milton Keynes Dons of Ireland - unloved, unwanted, and unlikely to survive beyond the short-to-medium term.

If a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, then the Premier Division of the Eircom League just got a whole lot weaker...

On the positive side, I suspect this will be the base-line Year Zero for Rovers. Things can only get better from here. Finish Tallaght and get out of the graveyard league asap.

A bad day for our league...

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

Just wait until the FAI expand the league and render this beautiful moment meaningless.

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I don't see any change to the league format next season, as the 12-team Premier Division has once again being a success this season. There may be extra promotion/relegation places next year however. By now, they can't change the Premier Division to a 10-team league next season, and there is zero chance of there being a 22-team league, as even the FAI won't be mad enough to force (part-time) clubs to play 42 league games in 8 months!! :eek: The current 12/10 team leagues will remain in situ until the end of next season at least.

We are relegated, but if there are extra promotion places on offer next year, we stand a good chance of coming back to where we belong in 2007.

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Originally Posted by coislaoi

Whatever your views on Shamrock Rovers, their demotion to the first division is not good news for the league overall. I know that most Cork City fans look to the fixture list to see when and where we are playing the Hoops. They bring the biggest away following to Turners Cross and always create atmosphere.

Shamrock Rovers we will miss you.

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Our relegation will cost every Premier Division club money next season, as they will lose 500-1,000 fans that would be there if we were playing. That's a lot of money down the drain, the likes of money that Bohs gloaters and other debt-ridden clubs like them, could do with. Ask Jim Roddy, Jim Hanley, Brian Lennox, and even Gerry Cuffe if they're happy losing that amount of money next season, especially as we are often the biggest draw in town. :( Yeah, you certainly will miss us.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

A bad day for our league.

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It's a sad day for the league when the league's best-run club are replaced next year by a club with a fake title, no support, no heart, and no soul, i.e. nothing. The league this year was great domestically, but Home Farm getting promoted has soured it to a certain extent. The club are a throwback to the bad old days which dominated this league for so long, as they represent all the problems with it. :(

It is an awful end to a good season.

Hate seein' Rovers relegated TBH, but as a few pointed out, no team has a divine right to be in the top flight - but the bottom line is, it was bad management in the background that relegated them and not strictly the foorball. I just hope they don't go the way of Dundalk and get lost in the mire indefinitely.

Might be good for the 1st division regulars though, as it might raise the profile of the division for 2006.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Continuity Home Farm may deserve to be in the Prem by merit, but by any other measure they shouldn't be there.

They will bring nothing - repeat, NOTHING to the Premiership.

We've swopped one Homeless Dublin-based club run by fans and with decent support for another homeless Dublin-based club run by a delusional **** and with absurdly little support. I challenge any Dublin City fan to tell me how that is good for the Premier division. You are the Milton Keynes Dons of Ireland - unloved, unwanted, and unlikely to survive beyond the short-to-medium term.

If a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, then the Premier Division of the Eircom League just got a whole lot weaker...

On the positive side, I suspect this will be the base-line Year Zero for Rovers. Things can only get better from here. Finish Tallaght and get out of the graveyard league asap.

A bad day for our league...

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What he said.

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Originally Posted by mypost

Our relegation will cost every Premier Division club money next season, as they will lose 500-1,000 fans that would be there if we were playing. That's a lot of money down the drain, the likes of money that Bohs gloaters and other debt-ridden clubs like them, could do with. Ask Jim Roddy, Jim Hanley, Brian Lennox, and even Gerry Cuffe if they're happy losing that amount of money next season, especially as we are often the biggest draw in town. :( Yeah, you certainly will miss us.

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We would only be playing Rovers at home ONCE next season, so our gate income will be down very slightly. You would only be bringing those 500-1000 to Dalyer once, so thats all Bohs lose out on.

We are talking about €15000, not €250,000 so get over yourself.


Anyway, Bohs v Rovers in the cup would make up for that little loss :)

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I just hope they don't go the way of Dundalk and get lost in the mire indefinitely.

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That is the problem down here. If you don't get out the first year it gets harder due to lack of money through the gates to invest in players.
This is where you really find out who your supporters are.

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Might be good for the 1st division regulars though, as it might raise the profile of the division for 2006

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That is a positive from Rovers going down. The Dublin media might realise that there are two divisions in this country and imagine teams outside the Pale

But at least some good matches next year. Just in time for our new ground opening at the end of June hopefully.

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It's a sad day for the league when the league's best run club

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A pretty big statement from a club that cheated with their license application and spent half the season paying ridiculous wages they couldn't afford.

Rovers may be well run now, but the current regime did benefit from the deeds of the previous board to some extent- it could well be that but for their overspending last season Rovers would have been in the first division already.

The next year will really show if Rovers are well-run or not, as it stands it's too soon to tell.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Continuity Home Farm may deserve to be in the Prem by merit, but by any other measure they shouldn't be there.

They will bring nothing - repeat, NOTHING to the Premiership.

We've swopped one Homeless Dublin-based club run by fans and with decent support for another homeless Dublin-based club run by a delusional **** and with absurdly little support. I challenge any Dublin City fan to tell me how that is good for the Premier division. You are the Milton Keynes Dons of Ireland - unloved, unwanted, and unlikely to survive beyond the short-to-medium term.

If a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, then the Premier Division of the Eircom League just got a whole lot weaker...

On the positive side, I suspect this will be the base-line Year Zero for Rovers. Things can only get better from here. Finish Tallaght and get out of the graveyard league asap.

A bad day for our league...

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Spot on, as I've been saying on all these DCFC/Rovers threads.
Last night's result has cost every club in the Premier League money, at the very time it's so badly needed.
DCFC attracted a massive 85 paying customers to their home game with Limerick FC this season. Thats EXACTLY what the eL Premier division needs, isn't it? :rolleyes:

After a season of unprecedented TV coverage and interest, this is a terrible result for the eL. DCFC might be there on merit on the field, but how in the name of God can a little egomaniac's personal pet project do anything for this league?

Thanks for all the bitter comments from fans of the usual 2 or 3 clubs. We lost our premier div status on the pitch so let's leave it at that. On a brighter note I'm 100% confident that we'll be straight back up, as our soon to be unveiled new manager is the ideal man to do it. Ps, to all those fans who continue to bark on about Rovers 'getting away' with things, I ask one question. How's your clubs tax clearance cert coming along?

Our tax situation is grand- we pay every cent that's due on time, every time, and have done for the last four or five years at least.