In fairness to Connolly after reading about the whole thing on rte.ie he didn't actually snub ireland he has an ankle injury. Sounds like a bit of a dodgy strory.
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In fairness to Connolly after reading about the whole thing on rte.ie he didn't actually snub ireland he has an ankle injury. Sounds like a bit of a dodgy strory.
Declined?! Arrogant little ****er :rolleyes: Who does he thimk he is? Roy Keane :eek: :DQuote:
Originally posted by pete
Connolly has since "declined" to join up with the irish squad for Greece so good riddance!
:)Quote:
Originally posted by oddboy
Of those that remain only Gary Doherty has much experience of playing as an out and out attacker and it now seems that Glen Crowe of Bohemians may partner him up front at the start of Wednesday's match.
Crowe, who would be the first Eircom League player since Pat Byrne 16 years ago to be capped at senior level if he features
sure anelka has done the same to france today.
it'll be interesting to see how they deal with it...
shocked with the amount of withdrawals - nothing wrong with any of them.
I don't know whether to admire Connolly or not for being honest & saying he didn't want a call up instead of making up an injury which i'm sure a few other the other withdrawals are doing.
Looks odds on that Crowe will play some part in the game too which is good.
With only 15 outfield players as well looks like Houlihan be in with good chance of a game...
connolly gives a different version of events here
After his row with Richie Foran, I can certainly believe that Givens may have behaved like that.
i dont know what sort of reaction I'll get to this but does anyone think that maybe its ok to not want to play an international match if you dont want to?
well im sure nicolas anelka would agree with you anyway!
but should they really have to be just injured not to play. What gives us the right to demand excuses from them?
Yes, surely people can make up their own minds at different times.Quote:
Originally posted by Magoo
i dont know what sort of reaction I'll get to this but does anyone think that maybe its ok to not want to play an international match if you dont want to?
Remember David O'Leary ?
Well no one accused him of being a traitor etc, he did want to play for irleand, yet he was treated like sh*t by that f*cking gobdaw Charlton simply because he did not want to go to some meaningless tournament in Iceland, and wanted to go on holiday with his wfe and kids instead.
sorry, i meant not PLAY if u dont want to....Quote:
Originally posted by Magoo
i dont know what sort of reaction I'll get to this but does anyone think that maybe its ok to not want to play an international match if you dont want to?
IMO, representing your country is one of the greatest honours that can be bestwowed on anyone and I have no time for someone who would refuse such an opportunity unless there are extreme mitigating circumstancesQuote:
Originally posted by Magoo
i dont know what sort of reaction I'll get to this but does anyone think that maybe its ok to not want to play an international match if you dont want to?
but we're hardly heading to war a aginst GreeceQuote:
Originally posted by Éanna
IMO, representing your country is one of the greatest honours that can be bestwowed on anyone and I have no time for someone who would refuse such an opportunity unless there are extreme mitigating circumstances
completely agree with you Eanna - Magoo what are you talking about
I'm talking about the demonising of players for not playing matches which are important but less important than most internationals. It's well for Duff et al to be picked automatically only to say that they have injuries when we all bloody know that they would be available for their respective clubs under the same circumstances. At least Connolly had the dignity to ask why he wasnt picked in the first place. You all took the p!ss out of him when it was suggested that maybe he should have been picked originally. What has been sown is now being reaped.Quote:
Originally posted by Shano
completely agree with you Eanna - Magoo what are you talking about
Would it be that hard for a fella to turn up to the squad and only play 10 minurtes or whatever? come on like, they´re going to be training with their clubs anyway
no, i agree completely. IMO he should be going. I know that its a massive honour to play for Ireland. However, I dont like the double standards of dogging him out of it one day and demanding he be in the squad the next.
One other thing; I dont think that just because a player does not want to play when they are not injured they deserve to be slated. Too often people are not given a right of reply in situations like that. Remember that his story is that GIvens didnt wait about long enough to hear that he has a problem with the stitches in his ankle coming out.
What about players that have retired from International Football, should they be demonised for refusing to play for their country when they are still able to play for their clubs?Quote:
Originally posted by Éanna
Would it be that hard for a fella to turn up to the squad and only play 10 minurtes or whatever? come on like, they´re going to be training with their clubs anyway
I can understand fellas retiring from international football towards the end of their careers
So it's acceptable if a player near the end of his career chooses not to play for his country.
That's an interesting view from someone who calls RK a traitor because he was sent home from the World Cup.
Ah stop yer shagging nit-picking will ya :rolleyes: Any person in any career steps back a bit when they´re nearing the end of said career if they can. When someone has faithfully served their country for a long time (Irwin, Quinn, Staunton) they have the right to go out at the top.
There´s no need to bring bloody Roy Keane into this as well. For crying out loud- do you people actually do anything but talk all day about your beloved mancunian judas? If I started talking about womens under 12´s football in outer mongolia, you lot would find a way to tie it to why "poor roy" was shafted etc.
Right now, we´re talking about the squad for the game against Greece. Roy Keane isn´t in it. He may very well not be in the next one. Can we just forget about him until he decides whether to "lower" himself from his little castle in the sky and play for his country again?
Just beacuse i don't think Connolly is good enough for the oroginal squad doesn't mean he not good enough for 5th or 6th placed forward. Similarily I don't think Crowe is up to making our top 10 forwards but i think he shouldn't be ignored when we have injuries just cos he plays at home.Quote:
Originally posted by Magoo
no, i agree completely. IMO he should be going. I know that its a massive honour to play for Ireland. However, I dont like the double standards of dogging him out of it one day and demanding he be in the squad the next.
I don't think Given should necessarily have spoken to the press about his conversation with Connolly but the extracts about Connolly thinking he should be 1st choice irish forward are laughable.
:rolleyes:
Maybe he has matured but Connolly has displayed a petulant streak in the past.
here, hereQuote:
Originally posted by Éanna
Ah stop yer shagging nit-picking will ya :rolleyes: Any person in any career steps back a bit when they´re nearing the end of said career if they can. When someone has faithfully served their country for a long time (Irwin, Quinn, Staunton) they have the right to go out at the top.
There´s no need to bring bloody Roy Keane into this as well. For crying out loud- do you people actually do anything but talk all day about your beloved mancunian judas? If I started talking about womens under 12´s football in outer mongolia, you lot would find a way to tie it to why "poor roy" was shafted etc.
Right now, we´re talking about the squad for the game against Greece. Roy Keane isn´t in it. He may very well not be in the next one. Can we just forget about him until he decides whether to "lower" himself from his little castle in the sky and play for his country again?
Fair enough, but he has a right to turn it down if HE sees fitQuote:
Originally posted by pete
Just beacuse i don't think Connolly is good enough for the oroginal squad doesn't mean he not good enough for 5th or 6th placed forward.
You're some man for double standards, every other post in the Cork section is from you trying to push your views about the manager. Any argument you don't like is put down as immature or not relevant.Quote:
Originally posted by Éanna
Ah stop yer shagging nit-picking will ya :rolleyes: Any person in any career steps back a bit when they´re nearing the end of said career if they can. When someone has faithfully served their country for a long time (Irwin, Quinn, Staunton) they have the right to go out at the top.
There´s no need to bring bloody Roy Keane into this as well. For crying out loud- do you people actually do anything but talk all day about your beloved mancunian judas? If I started talking about womens under 12´s football in outer mongolia, you lot would find a way to tie it to why "poor roy" was shafted etc.
Right now, we´re talking about the squad for the game against Greece. Roy Keane isn´t in it. He may very well not be in the next one. Can we just forget about him until he decides whether to "lower" himself from his little castle in the sky and play for his country again?
Try to take an objective viewpoint not related to the parochial football teams of England. I personally couldn't care less where a player earns his living. I'm only interested in their performances in a Green shirt, you seem to have a major hang-up about some teams in England. Cop yourself on and try reason.
I don't think he can complain about being left out again if he won't take up the opportunity he's given (no pun intended;) ).Quote:
Originally posted by Magoo
Fair enough, but he has a right to turn it down if HE sees fit
I have a hang-up? Have you made a single post on this site since june that hasn´t had the word Roy or Keane in it? So many of you Keanites are like single-issue election candidates- pontificating til there´s smoke coming out of yer ears about one thing and then silence on everything else, which god forbid, could actually be more important to the rest of the world. I´m not pushing my views on anyone- I reply to posts giving my opinion, as I (and everyone else on this board) have the right to do.Quote:
Originally posted by Wizzard
You're some man for double standards, every other post in the Cork section is from you trying to push your views about the manager. Any argument you don't like is put down as immature or not relevant.
WHAT?! I couldn´t honestly give a flying **** about football teams in England (parochial or other) If you read any of my posts you´ll see that my only references to English clubs are to the Irish players who play there. I would rather that the Irish domestic league had some representatives in the Ireland squad, like just about every other country in the world, but when it comes to the Ireland squad, yes their performance is the key factor.Quote:
Originally posted by Wizzard
Try to take an objective viewpoint not related to the parochial football teams of England.
To be honest I´m a bit confused as to what you´re getting at in your post- is there a hidden gem of wisdom that only you can see in it? :rolleyes:
Exactely, you either available for selection of you're not (i.e. retired). IMO players do not have the right to pick & choose their international matches!Quote:
Originally posted by Schumi
I don't think he can complain about being left out again if he won't take up the opportunity he's given (no pun intended;) ).
You know if i was Connolly, this would be my thinking...
"Calling me upto the squad cause of withdrawals, i'll show them... by playing and doing well"...
Could have shown Don Givens a lesson, whether he was technically even capable of that is another question!
Connolly is not the only one doing it thoughQuote:
Originally posted by pete
Exactely, you either available for selection of you're not (i.e. retired). IMO players do not have the right to pick & choose their international matches!
Thats the way anyone who really wanted to play for their country would be thinking surelyQuote:
Originally posted by The Legend
You know if i was Connolly, this would be my thinking...
"Calling me upto the squad cause of withdrawals, i'll show them... by playing and doing well"...
Slight correction....Quote:
Originally posted by Éanna
Thats the way anyone who really wanted to play for their country would be thinking surely
Thats the way anyone who really wanted to play for their country AND WAS FULLY FIT!!! would be thinking surely
That's not to suggest that I want the guy involved. He is unquestionably a sub-standard international striker. Having said that, we haven't hoardes of quality competing for the 4/5 squad places available for forward players.
West Ham signed Wimbledon striker David Connolly for a fee of £285,000. He has signed a three-year deal at Upton Park to become their first summer signing.
Connolly scored 42 goals in 63 league starts at Wimbledon over the last two seasons.
Source was Soccernet
I guess they had to replace Di Canio. He may not get his game there ahead of Kanoute and their young English striker (name eludes me for the moment). That can only be bad for us.
Defoe is the player you're thinking of - presume he wants away after handing in a transfer request the day after they went down.
If he can keep up his strike rate, there's no reason why he can't get his game. They should be up for promotion as well, as opposed to Wimbledon who were a mid-table side.
i think it's a very good move for him, better than reading anyway, he'll be playing with better players and has a genuine chance of going up with the hammers next season. I'd say Defoe will be gone and i'd reckon he'll link up well with Kanoute.
just saw that he went for 285,000stg. is that not a bit low for an international striker who's scored 41 goals in two seasons in the first division. three year deal though, so let's hope he gets up to the Premiership with them.
I reckon its a good move.
He won't walk into the team at West Ham, and it'll be a real test of his credentials. If he can be a success there, it'll give him great confidence for the international team. If he isn't a success there, well frankly that suggests he isn't international quality anyway.
It would depend on how long was left on his Wimbledon contract. If it was his last year, Wimbledon would be more likely to accept a lower price knowing that he could leave for free at the end of the season.Quote:
Originally posted by tiktok
just saw that he went for 285,000stg. is that not a bit low for an international striker who's scored 41 goals in two seasons in the first division?
Plus Wimbledon have to sell as they're in the ****s at the moment...