eh still you lad whinging about a gerrard tackle from a few season ago on a thread about a tackle from essien last night.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
god the bluekipper site just ooooozes bitterness.....sad indeed
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eh still you lad whinging about a gerrard tackle from a few season ago on a thread about a tackle from essien last night.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
god the bluekipper site just ooooozes bitterness.....sad indeed
everton fans dont come on here crying about it when dunc gets an elbow saying the tackle was cynical cowardly and scummy .we understand he gives as good as he gets . but the out rage expressed by liverpool fans is a bit much considering there captain was guilty of a much much worse tackleQuote:
Originally Posted by jockser
we have to point out the hypocrisy of liverpool fans , typical responces !!they complain about one thing you tell them there club is a bigger offender and they dont think that is a relevent arguement as it happened in the past .Quote:
Originally Posted by jockser
for a set of fans that have done nothing but remind every one of there past all summer long its a bit rich .
its what we have come to expect from ye though instead of using facts to win an arguement ye resort to childish name calling .
LOL drop it mister bitter.....youre embarrassing yourself again:DQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
The thread is about essien.....if you want to start a thread on gerrards tackle from 5 years ago please do although we will just laugh at you again.
You were ther one who asked who was the fool was, i just replied to it LOL so im the childish one??? nah nah :p
FIFA president Sepp Blatter has given UEFA the green light to take disciplinary action against Michael Essien for the Chelsea midfielder’s shocking foul on Liverpool’s Dietmar Hamann.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Essien’s knee-high challenge was missed by German referee Herbert Fandel but Blatter confirmed that under the rules of the game UEFA could use video evidence to bring charges against the Chelsea player.
Blatter told a news conference in Leipzig: “In 1994 the FIFA executive committee took a decision that the disciplinary committee can use television evidence in the case of infractions against the laws of the game that have not been identified by the referee.
“As this happened in a Champions League game it is up to UEFA to decide whether to review video evidence.”
In October, Essien escaped any further disciplinary action following another dangerous tackle on Bolton defender Tal Ben Haim despite referee Rob Styles, after reviewing TV footage, wanting to upgrade the yellow card he awarded to red.
The Football Association consulted FIFA and were told that the decision could not be reversed.
Blatter appeared to contradict that today by saying “if it was a blatant red card and only a yellow card was given the disciplinary body can transfer it“, but FIFA communications director Markus Siegler later clarified the rules.
Siegler said: “You cannot upgrade or downgrade one card to another but you can take action if the referee has not seen an incident.”
UEFA are waiting for reports from referee Frandel and match delegate Indrek Kannik of Spain before deciding whether to take action.
Aw poor Hamann, such a clean player as well.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7175/image28hu.jpg
I make that, above and below the knee, but of course we all want footie to be basketball nowadays eh?
Fairies.
I found it funny to hear Dunphy talking about Essien being a scumbag last night considering his lover's tackle on Haaland.
and he refered to beckam as a great player !!! after years of saying he was ntQuote:
Originally Posted by Roadend
UEFA has today instigated disciplinary proceedings against Michael Essien, charging the Chelsea FC midfielder with gross unsporting conduct following the English club's UEFA Champions League game against Liverpool FC on Tuesday.
Tackle on Hamann
The charge relates to Essien's tackle on Liverpool's Dietmar Hamann, which occurred out of the sight of both the referee and his assistants during the 0-0 Group G draw at Stamford Bridge. Any statement about the above, as well as any evidence, can be submitted to UEFA by 14 December 2005. The UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body will decide on the matter at its next meeting on 15 December.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Essien is nothing but a cynical thug. The tackel he made the other night against liverpool was a disgrace.
Just because he arrived in england with a big price ticket doesnt mean he cant be sent off and banned for several games. The fact that the dim wit is resorting to physicality instead of his footballing ability in games just highlights how Chelsea got sold a Imbecile.
On one hand can see where people come from when they say that Liverpool fans should remember Baros' tackle and Gerrard's history (Naysmith, Veron etc.) and Hamann got away with one at Anfield last season.......
But Essien has to be hunted for this. It was a disgraceful, cowardly, intentional assault. If anyone who disagrees look at the footage from behind Essien, he deliberately moves his foot - originally heading for the ball - towards Hamann and leaves it there...
They should throw the book at him.
Throw the book at him, he can't be seen to get away with these tackles. Its time UEFA and the FA allowed video evidence for nasty tackles.
Some form of citing like they have in the rugby may be a good idea.
he isnt getting away with it , the fa decided yesterday that they will have a hearing in a week , and he will prob get a 3 to 5 game ban .
i notice still no hearing or any fans up in arms over sissoko's equally bad challenge
I didn't catch the match actually. I am a Chelsea fan (in English football) and that was just a really bad tackle and he deserves whatever he gets.
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Originally Posted by superfrank
Totaly Agree with every thing except the word tackle (tackle suggests an attempt to win the ball)being used
if you watch the footage you can see essien ignore the ball and go through hamman who was coming in from the other side
he then went down and feigned injury.
the most unbelieveable thing was that Chelsea got the free kick
He did the same thing against Bolton that time. Good player but jesus woul he just play football. I want Maka back. At least he knows what he's doing in that position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
Still think it's been blown out of proportion. The legend that is Shaun Derry made a tackle on Jody Morris on the opening day of the season for Leeds v Millwall that was at least twice as bad as Essiens and didn't even get a telling of from the ref, let alone a ban! Morris made absolutely nothing of it, got straight back up and didn't have a b!tch in the media like Hamman who as far as I remember has made a couple of tackles of the same magnitude in the past. It's a contact sport and Hamman should really just take it like a man and get on with it. What goes around comes around.
Europe isn't about being physical. In the Championship there's alot more of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulsey
Still the same game. The more high profile the games seem to be, the more inclined the media are to over exagerate everything. For example, if Ronaldinho had scored the goal Bobby Zamora scored on Monday v Birmingham we'd be hearing about it for months. Thats why I much rather watch Championship than Premiership or Champions League. THe players are far more honest.
You would have to stick the boot in(pardon the expression) regarding anything Liverpool anto! The reason there is no outcry over Sissoko's tackle is because it was distinctly different to Essiens. Hamann was caught around the knee area and Essien's eyes were only fixed on that target, whereas Sissoko clearly got part of the ball. Yes, there is a question of whether there was intent on Sissoko's part part because he followed through, but anybody can see at this stage that he is more clumsy than malicious in his play. A slight difference to his African compatriot who could have neded two careers.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
Never a truer word spoken, Chelsea witch hunt from a load of manure sympathisers. Ban him for the three matches he deserves and move on to the next set of matches. End of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulsey
The two tackles are not comparable. Essien's was a wild, deliberate, disgraceful assault, and not his first either. :mad: It also shouldn't take him 3 days to apologise for it, and was only done to save face, it wasn't a genuine apology. Sissoko won the ball in his challenge, but his foot happened to land on the Chelsea players' ankle accidentally. He couldn't put it anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeSemi
Going back to Gerrard's tackle against Everton in 2002, and without being biased, I don't think that was deliberate either. He won the ball, and when jumping over the defender's challenge, his foot caught the Everton players trailing leg. I thought the ref made the correct decision at the the time, and Gerrard shouldn't have been later punished for what I saw as an accident.
essien is a scumbag:mad: :mad: he deserves to be banned for 5 games that is twice this season that he could've hurt somebody badly
Ammmm....I don't quite think that he 'caught the Everton players trailing leg' as you put it. He easily could have avoided contact when jumping to avoid a perfectly legit challenge, but chose not to and clearly intended to hurt the everton lad.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Uefa slapped a two match European ban on him today.should have been 5.
Chelsea were drawn with Barcelona in the Champions League but Essien will miss both legs. Quite unusual for him.....Boom Boom!
at it again yesterday- lucky that he wasn't sent off. Mourinho had just given Styles an earfull about 5 minutes before the tackle if any of 'ye noticed. i reckon the ref felt intimidated and bottled it.
The collision with Lauren was purely accidental. He was only shealding the ball. For fcuks sake will you's all lay off the lad. After all an arsenal player would never make the most of any form of "contact" now would they;) .
Have to say that thats funny.:D :D He only made two bad tackles and everyones all over him. How many times was he called scum playing for Lyon. He is just being victimised now and players are now making the most of any contact he makes with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by onenilgameover
Yeah I reckon Lauren got his tooth pulled at half time to keep the 'making the most' part going - I've heard Wenger even has them willing to die for the cause too in the event that our* deceitful plan may get rumbled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulsey
good to see the 'Arsenal are the only cheats' spirit is alive and well.
*I've highlighted our to avoid the need for some pedantic moron having to do it for me! :D ;)
In fairness thou, the 2 "bad" tackles he made (Hamman and Ben Haim) could have ended both players careers, they were far worse than bad. The thing that really annoyed me was the one against Bolton, he tried to feign injury himself to get away with it, fcuking coward !Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulsey
Could, if, but, maybe. Only word that matters is "Didn't".Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
As for Sunday and the tooth incident, Jose must be good to train Essien to take a tooth out with no blood wasted and connection of the elbow to Laurens nipple causing the injury. Surprised no more has been made of it by the Arsenal, pics in the papers or whatever...or maybe the tooth didn't come out and it was only a bit of made up gip by the sly sports reporter? Hmmm, I wonder...
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Originally Posted by Clifford
Firstly the elbow caught him on the chin & caused his jaw to clash and yes his tooth was loosened by the blow of Essien (not knocked out by Essien which no one has claimed anyway :rolleyes: ). Gary Lewin the Arsenal physio applied cleary visable anesthetic to the injury at the time on the coverage i had or did Sky choose to not show that on their coverage!!
Secondly Arsene Wenger confirmed in the post-game media press conference/interview (should be still available on Arsenal.com's subscription service) that Lauren required 'corrective dental work' as a result of the clash with Essien.
I'm sorry if the daily rags refused to once again listen to the exact details of the press conference and chose to run a story about the FA's plan to investigate Wenger's comments instead and Mourinho's handshake. I didn't watch the game on Sky as i don't have it here in Canada and yet I got all the details on the tooth injury at the time, after the event and with my own ears.
I think you'll find the conspiracy is somewhere else!
Yeah of course, the chin goes down below the nipple nowadays. Proved on your on sky sports on Mon night it was his chest took the mildest of blows. Codding yourself if you think Lauren is all cutie pie and innocent is my point. I don't like either of the filthy clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
I must correct myself after finally getting to see the incident numerous times. You are correct, the elbow didn't catch Lauren in the mouth, however it does look like the trailing arm does in full speed view. Looks a non event in slow mo but the extent of the contact is best view full speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clifford
Besides all that, Lauren is anything but cutie pie, I've watched him often to know that and never claimed that in my post. I do however find it ridiculous that Essien can be suddenly absconded of any blame due to the fact someone thinks an Arsenal player is cheating! For me the fact remains that Essien played the player and not the ball and the referee concurred otherwise he would not have booked him. As i said on the 'moaning managers' thread, i don't have a problem with the referree's interpretation of the incident, more with his failure to send Essien off for further incidents. There was plently of examples of cheating in the game that have gone unmentioned, Joe Cole's life threatening injury, the repeated kicking of the ball away by Chelsea players, the blindness toward the substitutes board by all of the Chelsea players, Huth blocking a player from retrieving a ball while warming up etc etc.......Not surprising it's the Arsenal player labelled a cheat again, to be honest.
For people to believe he shouldn't even have got booked becuase he was shielding the ball and Lauren was cheating is just absurd. Was not long ago when everyone would have sent a midfielder wearing the number 4 on his back in red and white to spike island for lesser incidents.
So therefore, Lauren, Wenger and Gary Lewin are the real cheats by your logic, as Lewin applied aneasthetic to an injury that didn't exist; Wenger spoke about corrective dental repair for a chest injury, and Lauren feels pain in his gob when smacked in the chest. Interesting !!
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Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
Fair play for watching it again and seeing the light. I agree entirely about all the other petty things the Chelski lads came up with, but I've seen the Arsenal do that at CoMS last season when Ashley Cole put them one up after about 30 mins and they played out time in the same manner from there til the game end. Lunjburg in particular putting on a master class in making a pure **** of himself. Good for the goose is good for the gander...
You really should actually read posts carefully. My 'logic' was that after watching the replay again the elbow does not make contact with the mouth but it looks like the trailing arm does which is a different matter altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
I'm man enough to admit I was wrong on the full point of contact with the elbow but there's no need to twist my so called logic to suit a non-existant argument on Arsenal cheating while avoiding the actual reason for the incident. Lauren did have a tooth loosened, did get aneasthetic and did get corrective dental adjustments - it just was caused by a trailing arm not an elbow which is my logic!
I agree with what's good for the goose is good for the gander as long as the goose is also labelled as dirty and consistant cheaters. There isn't a team in the game now that don't do one or all of these things that Chelsea did. I don't in theory have a problem with them getting away with it - I blame the referees personally for not stamping it out for everyone. My major gripe is people singling out one club (often Arsenal) when I've seen almost every club that visit's Highbury do it and i've seen quite a few. It's also quite shocking that the alleged biggest cheats in the game have won the fair play award 2 or 3 years running now.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Clifford
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hmmmmm. I have read your posts clearly, and they clearly inferred that as far as you were concerned Essien had elbowed Lauren in the face, causing his tooth to be knocked out.Thats how I read it anyway, and you're now backtracking because you were wrong, plain and simple. Its no big deal, but your logic seems to shift around a bit on this one.:rolleyes: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL