Rico
Is actually not a bad idea at all.
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Rico
Is actually not a bad idea at all.
It's a proper shame when you abuse someone who tried their best but didn't quite get what was good enough for you. The man got given the job and he gave it his best shot......what do you think he deliberatly threw away results? See how frustrated he was when Israel got their seconed? See how upset he was tonight? If you want a replacement or you don't think he was good ebnough fine. Your opinion. Just don't abuse him like he broke into the job an deliberatly sabotaged the team yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
won't argue too m uch with that but I'm uncertain he'd gel well with the irish players.. maybe that's what's needed
Should Kerr go ???
I dunno ..... i really dont !!
I was looking for his head on Saturday to be fair (and after both Israel games being honest) but now i dont know.
I have heard a few reasons as to why he SHOULD stay .... and they are good, they are well thought out and balanced .... and probably better than knee-jerk reactions to be fair.
I'll answer later on in the week .... probably be answered by then though !!
Steve Staunton could be a contender !
Thanks Brian, you cared about Irish football, domestically and internationally.
If only some of your players did too.
Kerr bemoans luck
Irish manger Brian Kerr felt that his side endured little luck over the past couple of months and stated that tonight was not the time to answer questions about his future.
The Irish manager was obviously crestfallen as his side’s World Cup qualifying campaign came to an unsatisfactory conclusion with the scoreless draw at home to Switzerland.
Read more at www.eleven-a-side.com
we had **** all luck in this campaign, but i reckon we made up for it all in that cyprus match
well some of the decisions esp over Senderos perhaps didnt go our way, but im clutching at straws... we were lucky tonight, they had 3-4 sitters and missed all of them (Shay made a great save for 1), other teams would have buried those chances.
luck has nothing to do with it!!! neither team or manager were good enough!
feel sorry for Kerr in a way that some players underperformed on so many occassions but at same time he showed he doesnt have what it takes either on too many occasions!
He could be somebody !!Quote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
Jackie Fullerton ????
Merci! et bonne chance!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Giuly
:( :( :(
OUT!
Merci Giuly, mais il n'y avait pas de "fighting spirit" ce soir! Aucun pays dans ce groupe ne méritait la place au Coupe du Monde, mais la France a au moins battu quelqu'un (nous). Le foot en Irlande est en crise.
Meilleurs espoirs pour vous en Allemagne, il faut absolument pas que les anglais gagneront là bas.
has to go has to go has to go has to go.....i would feel so much better if I woke up in the mornin and he was no more, he has taken us backward and i hate him for it. i wanted so badly to go to Germany and he fupped it up.............. my dead hamster could have gotten us out of that sh!te for a group.
I'm with liam88. Although he now is definitely not the man to lead Ireland to the future, I think going to personal abuse is a step too far.
He did his best, in the end it wasn't good enough.
Brian Kerr is a proud man and I expect he will jump before he is pushed.
Ade
Think he made some poor decisions last night. The doc should've been on when Keane got subbed.
I saw Matt Holland on the team sheet, but did he actually make it onto the pitch?
One thing, I think we underrate the swiss/ overrate ourselves. Some of their possession football, particularly in the first half was technically way better than us. We wouldn't be capable of knocking it around like that. Nothing to do with the manager or tatics or team he picked - we simply don't have the players, especially when 2 of our 3 players are out injured, and the other is off form/not interested.
Kerr will be gone, whatever we say here - Delaney has set out his stall long ago. Not going to solve the fact we don't have the players, and those we do are technically limited.
Very depressing match, more for the fact that it showed up our skill level as much as not qualifying.
Kerr made some mistakes but we just dont have the players. We now have ZERO leaders on the pitch. We have 1 imagative attacking players, a good goal keeper and 9 journey men on the pitch.
Kerr wont be offered a contract anywhere in England or on the continent. The only hope he has is either an Eircom League club with ambitions for Europe or a paper pushers job at the technocrats of technocrats UEFA.
Or take up one of the numerous academy jobs he was offered in the past, particularly in the months before being offered the international job.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
Feel sorry for Kerr and contrary to the aimless abuse thrown at him by some, I believe him when he says he gave it his all.
2 reasons come to mind as to why he did not succeed.
Kerr was unable to bring his underage success to bear at senior level or that he just didn't have the players available to him, maybe it was a combination of both.
This unbelievable onslaught by the press on Kerr over the last fortnight have been disgraceful and remind me of the British press.
Whether Merrion Square are sponsoring this or not remains to be seen.
Will our managers job now become the poisoned chalice that the England job is, or has it already happened.
Bottom line is the buck stops with the manager and I fear Kerr will not be given a new contract, if so Thanks Brian. I for one know you gave it your all.
Imagine referring to the Irish job as a poisoned chalice in comparison to England. Ha!
The calibre of the candidates for the job (should it become available) will, in a way, show how good or bad we are as a squad or how much potential said squad has.
I was just up in our canteen here trying to make sense of it all, and a few of the suit brigade sat down at the table beside me. Sure enough waiting to hear the tripe the match becomes conversation. The first thing said was "God , wasn't Clinton Morrison awful. Like it's not as if you send a mongrel to Krups!" which was followed by " You have to feel for Kerr, he's a very honourable , proud and genuine man, but he just wasn't up for it. Even the President felt for him, what with a hug and a kiss before the game."
Said it all really. We wanted him to succeed but deep down did we really believe it was going to happen?
In relation to the hounding of the manager by the press i'd say we're on a par.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Pat Dolan it is then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Neither needs to happen. The FAI just wont renew his contract, which expires at the end of the qualifying campaign, i.e. last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neish
Thank you!! But I heard somewhere Owen saying England had the best quality squad for the world cup with Brazil of course...what do you think about that ?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by crc
Kerr messed up our chances for this world cup.People can blame the players but he made stupid decisions that cost Ireland a draw in Tel-aviv.Playin Finnan(who made cyrpus look like Brazil) instead of andy reid was unbelievable.and gettin his team to sit back after they took the lead he was lookin for trouble.Last night all the irish supporters should have been celebrating a place in the world cup FINALS but bad decisions and a luckluster effort by numerous players cost us 2 wins against Isreal.
2 choices.
stay - there is nobody else
give him one more chance
Qualify or out
GO!Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
I simply don't think the players believe in him.
Kerr should go.He served his country well at underage level management winning the europeans but hes not cut out for senior international management.Bring in o'neill or o'leary
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Originally Posted by smy_eanna
yeah because Andy Reid was fcuking unbelievable last night wasn't he. Fcuk off.
yep-players have no confidence in him, that'd be the main reason alright. we're thin on the ground but a manager the players want will make a difference.
Go ,and don't leave the door bang ya on the ar$e as you go
Terrible tactics,terrible substitutions ,terrible with the media,too many squad favourites - get rid and get somone from abroad ...Trossier or Hiddink
Well hes trys unlike that lazy fcuk finnan.his champions league medels still holdin him down.
I think the first choice is whether Kerr should stay or go & then worry about who can get to replace.
I've mixed throughts on what should happen as I don't see creditable candidates for the position. I've no doubt delaney would like Martin O'Neill.
isnt o neil still nursing his sick wife
if she is better then yes take him if he wanted it
Go ask my Swiss. Andy Reid is a lazy fcuking ba$tard. He is great on the ball but he doesn't track back. Thats why he wasn't played on the left. Because we would have been weak defensively if he'd played there instead of KK.Quote:
Originally Posted by smy_eanna
Taking off Andy reid and Robbie Keane and leaving on Matt Holland and Kevin Kilbane when you need a goal is utter madness:confused:
Don't forget Reid has been played out of position in every game for Ireland and still looks a cut above most. He was the only player capable of doing a simple thing like switching the God damn play once in a while. Keane and Duff out and he's still stuck on the right wing - am I missing something here? Surely he should have been 1st choice centre mid, 2nd choice left wing. He was slightly out of sorts last night but mainly due to him being the only one with a creative bone in his body, while the rest looked clueless with their aimless chips into the Swiss backline(who were surely the tallest defence ever to appear at lansdowne), who barely broke sweat. Honestly was there any fcuking gameplan, what exactly did they work on in training?
he would have done perfectly well on the left.Him on the left,kilbane and holland in the center and stevo reid on the right.Playin o'shea was a **** up.Every time andy made a run down the line he either cut back or gave it to carr and couldn get one decent delivery in.kerr cocked up.o'shea didn deserve to start.
I agree, there's no one else
Depends on who they would get in to replace him. Theres worse managers out there and theres better