It doesn't help that they are mostly played out of their best position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
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It doesn't help that they are mostly played out of their best position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
There is a bit of a gap starting to emergeQuote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
There's no reason Bohs would go back to Long. What happened to his Waterford team was just an accelerated version of what happened to his Bohs team. Lost players in the winter, didn't adequately replace them, team became very week at the back and depended on scoring a lot of goals. No thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jd2793
Don’t know how you can say that with such certainty. I think there’s very little between the two teams, and the title race will be very tight. I would agree that we are favourites to be 1 and 2, but it’s a close call which way around it will be, in my view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
I dont think anyone can call much at this stage, that a team will be in the mix or not is about it. This season could well be the one where Referee FC wins the league (for someone) in a really high profile blunder in the run in, not yer run of the mill mediocre irritants. I think it will be that close.
Yeah at the moment it looks most bleak for Waterford at the bottom, followed by Cork. Sligo are like Drogs last year, there are wins in them and are able to beat those around them. You couldnt rule out another club getting sucked in to that battle but Bohs and Derry eg look like as close to a mid table quiet season you'll get in this 10 team league currently.
Well deserved point for Treaty,Dundalk dominated possession ,didnt create enough with it.One win in 7 for the home team but a good point here.
Unfortunately that's only too true. We see errors every week that affect the shape of the table. Even though I rate Neil Doyle the best in the league (admittedly the bar is low) in our opening game v Drogs he called a goal offside that replays showed was well onside. That decision has us a point off top now instead of two points ahead. And last night we could have been done again (but fortunately we scored in the same passage of play) when he didn't give a clear and obvious penalty when a Rovers defender threw himself at a shot and blocked it with his elbow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Certainly a game of 2 halves last night in Dalymount. Cork were on top in the first half but I can only recall 1 instance in which Cork should have scored and that was Tierney clearing off the line. Without Maguire and Keating Cork look quite poor in attack although both wingers are very entertaining to watch there is a bit of a lack of end product there. In the second half, after the substitutions Bohs were a much better organised team. I think James McManus is key in our organisation. He seems to be the one player who is able to read where the second ball will drop and make a play on it. Without that we frequently get hit on the counter. James Clarke needs to start more games as well, I think Tierney and Devoy have been a bit hit and miss this season. The team seems to be set up around getting them the ball but all too often they are hesitating and taking an extra touch when it's not necessary or trying a flick that won't come off 9 times out of 10. Rotating them with Clarke should be a given now as even with limited game time he's had some impressive cameos.
One note on the on the ref, he seemed to have a strange fondness of Cork. You always expect bad decisions in the league but it seemed like any call that was 50/50 went corks way. For Decoys yellow card it was a 50/50 challenge where Devoy won the ball and the cork player appeared to catch him. When the whistle went the cork player popped up to protest giving away the free only to realise he had won the free! Stuff like that is always a giveaway to me that the ref has made a mistake. Stranger still was the scene after he gave Murray a yellow card for repeated fouling! It looked like he tried to pull Murray in for a hug as it to say "Sorry about that mate" just really weird behaviour to say the least. Not the worst reffing performance we'll see during the season but certainly the strangest in my book.
I agree with you on the referee, at one point from a Cork corner Whelan broke out of the Bohs box and between them 2 Cork players has 3 goes at him to stop the counter attack and the ref just waved play on. I also agree with you on the Devoy yellow, he clearly won the ball and was hit when the Cork player followed through. There was no malice in the challenge but it should have been a Boss free and no yellow card to any player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
Yeah, exactly. Not the worst refereeing performance I have seen or will see but just bizarre decisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
Rovers very good at times in Inchicore and a draw keeps us both level pegging near the top. Really looking forward to the match on Monday but the time and day is bound to mean there will be some empty seats. The sight of the green and white always gets the gypsies going so its going to be tough but this time i am strangely a little more confident.
Wouldn’t have thought that 2pm on a Bank Holiday afternoon was such a bad time ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover
I’m happy enough with a 5pm KO on Monday with travel taken into account. For a Derby on a BH it isn’t the worst time I suppose. It would take over an hour on public transport from Tallaght so leave at noon and it would allow enough time.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
In some ways it's good in others it's not ideal. Getting out to Tallaght for example is pretty easy but if you're using public transport, like a significant number of the Bohs fans will be, it's a bus into town and then luas out so it will take a decent chunk of time especially with the Sunday bus schedule. That decreases the amount of time people can spend drinking (obviously a very deliberate move to minimise trouble) and a lot of fans wouldn't be fond of that. Then just being on a bank holiday may mean people have other family commitments that means they have to miss it or even be meeting with some extended family they didn't see on Easter Sunday for lunch which clashes with the game. For me it's ideal, I'll be driving over anyway, so I'm not drinking, and I'll get home in time to have dinner with the family where I'll either be jubilant or completely silent. I might even see one of the other games played.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
Weather was brutal, certainly. It rained solid from the moment we left Derry, the whole way until we got back yesterday afternoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve
The pitch did take a right battering, but was actually surprised at how well it held up given the circumstances.
Referee, Declan Toland, certainly was firing the cards out, in what wasn't a dirty game. 10 yellows, two reds. And we had a goal disallowed for a very dubious offside. Couldn't see from our angle really, but chatting to Galway fans after, who thought it may have been on.
Woeful defending to allow Hickey in for Galway's first. Any one of three defenders could have got a touch to it. Can't be giving up goals like that.
Great start to the second half with Benson's lovely strike, and then Byrne's red. I could be annoyed at conceding with the last kick of the game, but it was a badly needed win, so left delighted.
Laughable desire shown in Bohs defending for those 2 goals
Devoy I thought in particular was terrible for the first goal. I thought he could easily have nipped in and got the ball, but wanted to try and black Honohan off. Super run and finish from Noonan for the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Leigh Kavanagh is not a Premier Division player.
I really thought he had something about him in his first few appearances but he's shocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
I'll take a draw! Rovers have been dreadful for a large chunk of the second half. Just leaving a couple of players stranded up top and failing to move up the pitch at all.
shocking stuff from rovers. gotta laugh at reynolds though, hes like a cat with 9 lives.
Even better, a Bohs win;) What a turnaround. Must admit I didn’t see a way back for Bohs. Sickening for Rovers :p:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack B
Brilliant by Bohs, Buckley, Brennan and Whelan made a huge difference, Buckley giving the orders to others and hitting Rovers players as hard as they hit us. Whelan holding the ball then running with it, Rovers didn't know what to do with him and Brennan was so direct in everything he did he was a relavation. Happy Easter Bohs fansQuote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
I'd like to see the Virgin Media top half bottom half vote now!
Dreadful second half from us allied to almost bizarre substitutions ( taking off both Byrne & Watts) we got what we deserved.
On the Virgin media coverage Byrne suggested that the fault was with the Rovers players rather than tactics. Not of that mind myself- seemed like Bradley's changes led to Rovers losing any shape.
They also weren't all over us in the first half, I think those two goals flattered them.
Shout out for Colly Whelan, assist for Tierney and Brennan's goal. Would love to see Clarke (who did well) and himself on the pitch together more.
Ah the resurrection!
Get that right up you, lovely to watch all the rats running home at the whistle.
Unfortunately you’ve kept Rennie in the hot seat but never mind, maybe it’s the upturn we need lol.
What a comeback. Did not see that happening at all. Back to back wins and suddenly all is well in the world.
A derby win is always great but it can be such a short term cover of failings. It may well be a turning point for Bohs but tbh it is more likely to be the inconsistent way that Rovers can be in the league - great one game and sloppy next. This game could have been a statement by Rovers but it was fluffed badly. I dont think it will make a huge difference to the endgame in November and the months inbetween but it certainly is one to remember for Bohs and it is reminiscent of the amusing Dublin Derby hoodoo days when an underpar Bohs can get at Rovers. If every league wa like LoI it would be a true bookies dream.
Waterford and Cork this is a must not lose kind of game. Waterford need to stop the rot. St Pats need to make a statement win in a difficult fixture as do Shels at home in the remaining half hour or so. Dundalk's good start slowly being eroded as feared with a big game against flying Brayall things staying as they are. Maybe some needed a reality check from early complacency when it was looking like we were cutting lose.
I'm as critical of Reynolds as the next Bohs fan but that is now two wins in a row. If he was a manager in good standing they would be seen as hard fought wins and there would be a positive view of things to come. I think if he gets a good result on Friday he may have earned a stay of execution until at least the end of this series of games.
On the match today. Honohan was Rovers best player by a mile. How he's not being linked to the UK I'll never know(Maybe he is and I'm not seeing it). He has all the traits to make it there so it seems inevitable. On Bohs I thought they played pretty well until Rovers first goal and then they lost all confidence. The changes made by Reynolds changed the game and put a bit of a different shape on the team. I feel we're a bit too soft in defence at times. We're unwilling to pull a man down or commit a cynical tackle on a player who has dribbled by someone but the flip side is we seem to be getting yellows constantly for innocuous fouls so knowing our luck of late if we did start making those fouls we'd end up with record numbers of red cards. All in all a great win. I heard someone say it was our first win in Tallaght for 6 years! Not sure how true that is but either way it was well earned and well deserved in the end
With O'Donnell as assistant too? He was a master of the dark arts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Bohemia
Some finish done at the X. Waterford on an awful run of form.
Drogs Pats was potentially one of the worst games of football ever played. A real eye gouger
and i was a runner meself Dermo, hard to stomach but fair play to Bohs, they simply wanted it more in the 2nd half aided by a team willing to give to them, we always struggle to contain Ross Tierney. at half time i said we need a 3rd as if we concede we will wobble. We played ended up playing 5 defenders today as the 3 at the back never said to Honohan and Cleary flock off and get up the pitch. Side ways balls to Cleary got us into a lot of trouble, as his distribution is more akin to .....ehhhhh a very poor distribution company. The subs in hindsight were not helpful in that all our creativity got taken off. Arraron Greene really struggled throughout sluggish and slow to respond although he did make a great challenge at the end to deny Bohs a scoring chance. Gaffney i think may be in the twilight of the twilight. Rovers are not clinical enough and seemed coached within in an inch of their lives and when the south stand stared the ole ole ****e i had a feeling that was not good. So a mini Santry, i am like a briar tonight but what really gets me tonight is mates mine following English teams when talking about "their" teams start slagging on whats app, ask me hoop. More respect for your lot Dermo if being honest.
Cathal O'Sullivan pulled three points out of thin air for City. Won the penalty and then set up the winner after being fouled twice and refusing to go down.
I think his attitude to being fouled is his biggest strength but also likely to lead to injuries.
Great way to end today though!
Harps snatch a draw in Oriel Park,definitely a game that should have had more goals,Dundalk created a few and it took some decent keeping to keep them at bay until the opener,Harps also had 2 excellent chances that really should have been goals,great to grab an equaliser though and keeps McHughs unbeaten record going since he took over..
Pats seem to start feeling sorry for themselves if they play on a subpar pitch, a lot of misplaced touches/passes and then flailing of arms after. Not exactly conducive to a title-winning side, though in fairness you couldn't say that of any side thus far.
Dreadful game all the same. A speculative penalty shout or long range effort here and there but it was about as 0-0 a game as you're ever likely to see.
Yeah, awful game. You might be right about the players feeling sorry for themselves on bad pitches, but it’s hard not to sympathise. Pats game is built on neat passing football, and when the pitch makes that so difficult you’re always going to be up against it. Roll on the summer, when hopefully some of the surfaces improve. No complaints about the result, btw, the pitch was of course the same for both sides. Drogheda might even have had a penalty and got the win on another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack B
I’m more annoyed at your lot for keeping rennie on tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover
Yeah rovers never looked comfortable , never seemed to get a tempo going.
I have a lot of time for Bradley he knows how to win things but feckin hell he’s a negative bugger, and it spreads to the players.
We were good in patches and only that but it’s a win, we’ll take it.
Bit mad that if Derry win their game in hand they are 3 points off with a percieved bad start, maybe a sneaky league title in there yet. Dundalk...well late consession of goals are getting a bit too common now, habitual stuff and 6 points dropped as a result. It makes the Bray game a big one or a very good start could become average in relative terms where momentum is everything with a bunch of young players.
If only boez could play Rovers every week they might have some silverware to polish. As it is they haven't "troubled the judges" in a couple of popes stints.
No doubt the remains of the boez fans Easter eggs taste sweet tonight and who am I to deny them that.:)
Thankfully ( for me) I wasn't at the game in tallaght today ,but Rovers lack of that killer hunger and instinct for title success has been absent for nigh on 2 yrs now.
Looking at the other results we remarkably haven't lost much ground so it's onto shels on Friday and another game for Bradley to pull some more excuses out of his hole.