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If the FAI is serious about crowd behaviour and have indicated before they are willing to dock points for hooliganism, I don't see how Drogheda do not see a points deduction.
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If the FAI is serious about crowd behaviour and have indicated before they are willing to dock points for hooliganism, I don't see how Drogheda do not see a points deduction.
The Belgian flag is black yellow and red - what has blue and yellow got to do with it?
Entertaining game in EDP, we dominated opening 30 mins or so and deserved the lead. Waterford were the better side for the last hour but bad Amond hitting the crossbar, they didn’t really get a sight of goal. Huge win for us as we are just three points behind them with a game in hand, and level on points with Shams and Sligo. It will be a hell of a battle for third
We might need a Dundalk points deduction at this stage. If they win in Dalyer at the end of the month I think we are in big trouble. Same number of points from last 5 games as Drogs. Relegation form.
They are fans of a Belgian team that come over. Sint-Truidense (STVV) I think is their name and my info is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
Drogheda are such an empty club letting them act they way they do.
Imagine letting fans of another club disgrace your club like tonight.
But that is Drogheda, again, a club with nothing about them.
I can't decide which is funnier-The mental as anything tune playing over the ruck in oriel or the idea that galway are in the shake up for 3rd:):):). As the comer bros would say to one of their drugged horsies,steady on!
There’s a flag Drogheda’s ultras usually have at games with both the Drogheda crest and the Sint Truiden crest (blue and yellow club from Belgium). I assume it’s one of these ‘friendships’ their ultras group have with that club who come over for a **** up and a fight, similarly to how Bohs fans have a link with Wrexham who come over purely to cause troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
McDaid’s free kick in injury time that lead to Sligo’s second goal is a gas watch. An utterly abysmal delivery of a football
Ah here the soundtrack wins hands down! Its about the only time i've enjoyed Mickey Duffy blaring out tunes in Oriel. You probably would never have had the pleasure of going to the Oasis Hotel niteclub back in the day PC, the dancefloor looked just like that except for the occasional stray wellinton boot instead of a runner, there was even the not sure if thats a guy or a girl brilliant hair person:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
As a neutral who was at the game and seen everything close hand, one Dundalk fan was on the pitch with a massive flag goading the away fans, now these are supposed to be grown adults so being goaded is no excuse for what followed but let's no pretend there weren't a few Dundalk fans only too delighted to get on for a scrap (many of who have been captured on video in similar incidents before).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
The lack of security was an utter disgrace. Armed Gardai and regular Gardai stood around in large groups propping up the walls in Oriel while this went on. After the game they were telling disgruntled punters outside it wasn't their job, I hope they don't take that attitude when the English come to town in September.
Dundalk will be in bother with the FAI for having totally inadequate stewarding in place, one of two stewards trying to stop dozens of away fans rushing on while trying to contain the shed end as well.
There's more than enough footage out there for the clubs and the FAI to deal with this but how many times has this happened now in the Louth derby and elsewhere?
You'd have to think the cup game next week will now be BCD but both clubs will face punishment from the FAI, which is a huge shame for the genuine fans.
What a keeper McGinty is.
Don’t even know what the keeper was at standing so far offside. I was roaring at Chapman to shoot but no one around me even realised the keeper had gone up he’d positioned himself so far away from everyone else for the free kick.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
McGinty is the best player in the league
Wexford after a much improved 2nd half performance were comfortable winners in Ferrycarrig Park tonight. Cobh matched them for the 1st half but were well outplayed in the 2nd half. Don't expect either team to trouble the playoff final although Wexford's attack can be dangerous.
There is a lad with a flag at the end of every game, and before it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Fine of you think that's a problem. But it wasn't seen as a problem for the last decade, and it's definitely not anything special.
To both sides this when 40 or so Drogheda fans ran from the away section in the far corner across the pitch the half way line in front of the shed is just naive.
The stewarding was not appropriate for what happened, and Dundalk will face a penalty.
But, let's not muddy this to let the absolute disgraceful behaviour of Drogheda off the hook.
I'm sorry, but you are missing the obvious people to blame, and that is the 40 or so festering sores that ran across the pitch to fight.
If the FAI had any balls, they would actually follow up on their statements and dock Drogheda points. Nothing would be more fitting than letting their fans relegate them.
The lad with the flag walked out onto the pitch and was using it to goad the away fans, the stewards in front of the shed shouldn't have allowed him to do that, again that's zero excuse for what followed but the slack nature of the entire security operation given the recent history in this fixture was insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
I get the argument from some Dundalk fans that the lads in the shed could hardly stand there waiting to be pelted with bottles etc but there were a few individuals involved there who entered the pitch in Drogheda during the last big brawl and were on the pitch in Derry for the league cup final scrap in 2019, clubs always go on about the small minority yet never seem to actually deal with them.
In fairness I think that is organised with the club, before and after games these tifo displays are arranged. I wouldnt call it goading well no more than chanting time to go home, or your mother is your sister, or sarah brennan chants etc etc. Why would there be armed Gardai at a football game. Public Order unit dressed as robocops sure but ARU? Its a worn out story of Gardai taking their time and slowly ambling to intervene in crowd trouble at LoI, its wasnt fear or laziness, it was a tactic in the past - let the culprits tire themselves out about before wading in batons drawn, maybe some old habits linger. Now drawing batons is seen as very last resort with the thinking it incites worse violence and that rival groups can join and tiurn on police, did look like one Garda was going for the pepper spray. Silly to say its not their job if the club are paying for them to be there in the event of a public order issue. I do recall an incident with Rovers fans pulling down fences in 2009 i think and the riot squad appeared out of the players tunnell and waded in heavy handed, another incident it was a single dog unit and had a much quicker effect in getting idiots to back off amd settle. There was also an arrest of a Drog fan(?) that tried it on accross the pitch and when it went to court it was deemed a private rather than civil matter so case dismissed, maybe law has changed but it wasnt a decade ago. Repeat offenders do need to be banned (did Danny take his shirt off again....) but formal engagement with the known leaders of these groups and even formalisig membership should be looked at. Self policing works if the will is there or can be created and has been shown in other ultra groups and they take responsibility when they do get their club in trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
FAI may want to send out a hard hitting message and proximity of the cup fixture could be an influence but BCD would be pretty harsh rather than say restricted tickets allocations for home and away fans. Out of interest do people think that BCD nullifies home advantage or would players prefer to play with no away fans than no fans?
Almost comically bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
In fairness Bohs absolutely dominated most of the match, as you’d expect with the extra man, but the longer the game went on you just knew they wouldn’t score. Sligo lads blocked everything. Bohs have no decent striker, and when they did get a good shot on target McGinty was in fine form.
On McGinty, what does it say that he couldn’t make it at Oxford and comes back here and can look like prime Manuel Neuer??
Ah. Thanks for the clarificationQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Behind close doors punishes Dundalk too as gate receipts for the cup are split. It's Drogheda's second offence this season I believe so they could be in serious trouble.
What seems to have happened was 75% of the Drogheda fans tried to leave after the fourth goal went in. Guards and stewards were trying to keep them in, meanwhile there was nobody protecting the pitch and a load ran on. Dundalk not blameless here for the lack of stewarding, although if a large group of people want to get on the pitch in any ground they could.
They are fair opinions re the flag, but putting emphasis on Dundalk is bizarre to me at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Again, Drogheda has been letting these fools fester for a while.
What kind of club lets some sorry eunics representing another team to act out their big man fantasy's in their name?
I'm aware the lads are on the pitch with the large tiffos before and after every game but this lad walked well away from the shed and was making some fairly crude gestures (which I and everyone of a Dundalk viewpoint found hilarious but unfortunately the big man childs in the away end couldn't deal with it). However, the stewards in front of the shed shouldn't have allowed him to do that. Anyway, going round in circles here, idiots be idiots, be interesting to see what follows from the FAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
The threat of stopping the tifo displays would pobably horrify some more than the risk of bans. But yeah if it was over the top, or even a usual tifo display and the atmosphere is tense then stewards should use common sense and refuse entry to the sideline.
Definitely not putting emphasis on Dundalk, I think this is a real opportunity for both clubs to weed out some real bad actors that as you said have been festering for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Dundalk should face consequences for the lack of adequate security measures but if I'm Dundalk I'd also be asking for a meeting with the local superintendent, for the Gardai to say stopping stuff like tonight isn't there job when you can be sure as anything they are placing demands on Dundalk for that fixture to go ahead is down right insulting.
The Gardai should be working closely with both clubs in the lead up to games like this. If they can't manage 2700 fans in the wee county without incident god love them when England come to town in September
Last game of the season is Dundalk away to Drogheda, where one team will be relegated.
Fun times.
Might play it at 10 o’clock in the morning just to be safe!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Mallon’s second yellow there tonight was a ridiculous decision,I know refs have a difficult job but to send a player of in the 37th minute for that is a joke…
Ah stop, disrespecting bohs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
We’ll be in any ****in playoff pal.
Shocking scenes at the end of the match at op tonight!
Dundalk about 10% culpable for poor security set up but nothing more.
The goading of fans @ ft who have just been beat by their closest rivals is as old as time ffs. The Drogs ultras had a group of Belgian fans with them who were wearing a distinctive scarf and they lead the attack towards the shed. Although the weather forecast in Dundalk wasn't for snow I'd say there was a lot of that oul Columbian frost floating about in the away end!
;-)
On the game itself; Dundalk completely outplayed Drogs in the 1st half, sat a little more deep in the 2nd and absorbed the pressure and piled on when able to break.
Doherty's time at Drogs must be coming close.to an end,never have I heard such a whiney manager and he was booked for his crap last night.
PS; how the fu*k did the drogs gk,butter fingers Wogan get a move to England (for a record breaking club transfer fee ?) he's awful!
Armed cops LoL :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Yeah and snipers on the main stand with stun grenades and knock out gas
No statement from anybody, Dundalk, Drogheda or the FAI, is bizarre to me.
Maybe something happening behind the scenes which means they can't comment - just think it is unusual.
Dundalk is not going anywhere fast. Drogheda beat themselves, and Dundalk look a weaker team to me from before the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dermobohs
Clubs can't say much id imagine until after the few scumbags who were arrested appear in court this morning
The stewarding and policing was a disgrace.
What's ****ing me off, is more than likely not being able to attend on Friday night because of a bunch of little hooligan wannabe. Drogheda have had this element for a while and we have our own lads who don't need much pushing to have a row
Didn't cop the Belgian thing until you said it, did see a few of them wearing those colours now you mention it. These partnerships are often very weird, wasn't there talk of the bohs fans attacking the pats fans at the cup final a few years ago having some British clubs fans involved with them that day?Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
Yeah it’s odd alright. Wrexham are the club you’re referring to with BohsQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
“No MY team is worse than yours” is the new “No YOUR team has a bigger budget than mine” :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Hakiki a brilliant addition for Dundalk
I think my team is just as good as yours - seven draws in ten games now...Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
But Harps and Bray didn't win either, so really it's just another game limped through to the end. 12 to go
At least with the Bohs/Wrexham vs Pats there is an element of 'one off event' and unpoliceable away from the stadium.
These Beligian lads have been with Drogheda Ultras for a while now, drink regularly at Mother Hughes stewing for fights, and have been throwing shapes at the end of derbies, both inside United Park and at the Crosslanes, for a season or two now. They wear their stupid colours so easily identifiable.
What kind of club let's guests treat their club like this???
Bunch of gutless people in Drogheda.
I don’t think I’ve seen you win yet at the Bowl. The auld score draw is quite the good bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Agreed! If Shels deemed a player of that ability as surplus then they wont give up top spot. Forced game time has improved the squad, I thought young Kenny had his best game last night where he has been a bit lost before, poor with a final ball or decision making and games have helped. Doyle the same but we'll see on his injury. Older players like Benson and Horgan showed flashes of old. I dont think it was down to Drogheda being partciularly poor, it seems more that there is some confidence seeping back in, time will tell how resilient thats is. There are no shortage of new unknowns in the squad if there is a clatter of injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Drogheda have issued a statement this morning - predictable stuff condemning the actions of the troublemakers etc. Hooligans should be identifiable from LOI TV footage and will get lengthy bans.