how unusual! Wonder where they got that from :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
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how unusual! Wonder where they got that from :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
Somehow someway I just can't see that happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy.McClure
The man has done more for our club then anyone else in the league, this should be highlighted, not the negitives, you can save them for your own fanzines down in the village!!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
Sorry, we'll stick to saying everything is fine so will we? That way the league can stay exactly where it is, and watch clubs go bust again, watch fan numbers stay static etc etc :rolleyes: There are things CCFC, and indeed its fans, may be criticised for, but to criticise people for trying to move the league forward and professionalise it....... well it shows some people up for what they are :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
So an article entitled Cork fans, football hooligans focusing on incidents such as the glass bottles and flares thrown onto the pitch and the 10 on 1 outside Richmond Park that'd be published no problem? Is that the kind of shyte you want in the fanzine to promote domestic football?
The fact the title of the article was changed from the original writer (Who in fairness to Tiktok is the one Cork fan I'd trust to write something approaching balanced when it comes to Shels :p ) is far worse than if it was just someone on a rant. That's pretty pathetic really.
thats right, everyone's against you :rolleyes: come on like, the guy has made an offer, but rather than take him up on it, you dismiss it out of handQuote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
I'm not involved in the fanzine, though I do write for it and know the people who are. I didn't dismiss anything, I simply said somehow someway I can't see it happening, especially but not just because of this crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
What village is that then? I happen to live in the City of Cork. Why don't you keep your childish insults for somewhere else DR. As for what he's done for Shels, I wouldn't argue with that- only a fool would- but I'm not interested in what he's done for Shels, I'm interested in what he has done for the league as a whole, and that, I'm afraid, is a run of negative publicity stretching back a number of years now. He's a liability. If you want to remain blind to that, its your choice. Or if you want to value his contribution to Shelbourne over his damage to the rest of the league, thats also your choice. But don't abuse people for having their own views on the matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
He's made the offer. What more can he do? Very easy to dismiss it and cry wolf :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
I'm not in a position to dismiss anything, I don't speak for Red Inc or anyone involved in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
Just lost respect for the fanzine for adding the line about "it only being a chant"
its a fanzine FFS it has to be abut opinions. If the Shels fans are giving the right to reply I don't see the problem
I'm barred from relaying any quotes from the article itself but on receipt of advance copy i can confirm that the headline is Herald-esque & article seems fair & balanced.
Why was the article changed from the original to some sensationalist anti Shels crap then? Without so much as the decency to tell the writer who's article is printed under it.
I'd argue against that - look at Doc O'Neill at UCD or Jim Rhatigan at Kilkenny for starters. They've done as much good as Ollie without thenegative associations. Ollie has been good and bad for Shels - his antics have been blamed for failing to secure bigger sponsorship on the back of last year's CL run, apparently - so he's an interesting character and fully suitable to an article in an Irish football fanzine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
While the title - and the changing of it - are dubious at best (and, it is important to note, have been apologised for; it is Troy's second attempt, so surely some slack should be given?), to decry the entire fanzine because of one article which most haven't read is nonsense, in my opinion. And talk of it being a "Cork fanzine" is nonsense - I'll add my weight to that as I did up the Cyprus match preview.
How the f**k does carrying out character assassinations on high profile individuals from other EL clubs 'move the league forward and professionalise it'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
If it wasnt for the Ollie Byrnes and Pat Devlins, Shels and Bray Wanderers would have gone to the wall ages ago. These two guys have done more for their respective clubs that any two other individuals you could name.
Does writing spurious articles about indivuduals like Ollie Byrne and Don Givens increase fan numbers at EL clubs, I doubt it!
Well said superhoops, I'm glad somebody agrees with us, I don't see how you don't find this offencive to Shels fans! As for it being balanced it says the good things, but then says but blah blah blah, as if to say the good doesn't count for anything!
Since when does being a shels fan mean you are automatically an Ollie fan. Is there no separation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red
In order to stop the bloody annoying bickering can I suggest a Shels fan writes a balanced piece on the EL collusus that is Pat Dolan for the next edition.
I genuinely think this would make a good story if done in well, as there is a lot of positives but also a few genuine questions to be asked.
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Originally Posted by Éanna
In fairness eanna (and not taking a pop at you personally) but there no better than the cork web fans for getting their knickers in a twist over nothing :rolleyes:
You're missing the point, we don't always agree with his behaviour, but a negitive article on him shows Shelbourne FC in a bad light, and in turn shows the league in a bad light, you have to remember around the barstoolers population Shelbourne are one of the better known EL teams!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I'm sure it will tiktok ;) ;) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
No such thing as bad publicty mate! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
Who knows when Paul Hyland packs it in the Herald could be knocking on your door!
So good news for Shels and Ollie then? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOwl
To be honest I dont know where the association between this article, the Genesis Reporter and Devlin came from, he's not mentioned in the fanzine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
If you would like to write a piece about he has stayed with the cluub and kept them going, mail it to genesisreporter@yahoo.com and have it either 450 or 900 words long.
Well thats a shame, they've been around the block a good bit. If they dont want to be involved I cant force them. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Just to mention, the fanzines will be on sale around the ground again today. There will be someone in Murrays going around that area, Jurys hotel, Ballsbridge and the enterance to the south tce. This is the front cover
Thats one view on it. My opinion is that people like this who have, undoubtedly, done great work for their clubs over the years, are now holding the league back, and making it look amateur. The greatest service those two individuals could do for their clubs and the league now is to step aside andQuote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
stop holding them back with their unprofessional behaviour. By all means commend them for their good work, but don't allow it to override other concerns.
afaik, its part of the deal. otherwise ollie will call round for a cuppa :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
It's true - I have my "living in denial" card to prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
Also because Shelbourne actually have no fans, you have to go thru a major existential journey before you can join our unique club.
I would guide you thru what this journey entails, but unfortunately as I do not exist, I can do no such thing.
:D :D :D exactly what I thought!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOwl