UCD might be (although PFAI rules would count the scholarship as payment of course)
Printable View
UCD might be (although PFAI rules would count the scholarship as payment of course)
Do you mean they might be going back to the scholarship only model? As in, no more ‘outsiders’ like Tommy Lonergan etc that weren’t attending the college (and presumably being paid a nominal wage)?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
There may be the odd player from Rovers B or something like that I guess, but in the First Division, nominal wages for outsiders will be hard to justify I'd say.
Absolutely, it looked awful at times, and security were a pain in the arse. Jackman, for all of its any faults, was a better home for the club relative to its size at the time, but then there were licensing concerns, and POS wanted the news story that renting Thomond was, and I bet was dreaming of hosting Euro games there down the line too.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Seems a bit strange to me, in two respects.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
First, if would-be investors cannot do their own initial homework in identifying a suitable club to take over, then what does that say about their knowledge and ability to run the club after they've acquired it?
And second, the interests of the LOI may not exactly coincide with those of new owners. For example, the LOI may want to steer them towards a club which is struggling, as opposed to another club which has better prospects overall. Or they might want to bolster a club in a part of the country which is otherwise under-represented, rather than one in an area, or Dublin, which already has LOI clubs. Or they might even end up being influenced be someone in the LOI who has a personal preference towards (or against) a given club.
Absolutely agree ..TP a big white elephant for loi soccer
The FAI, or some employed officials thereof, were actively involved and providing support to Roddy and his developer buddies when they wanted to buy us back in 2008 I think it was. Thank Christ the club weren't stupid enough to do that deal.
With this having effectively become a de facto club ownership thread, Brian Ainscough hadn't anything dramatic to say on Between the Stripes other than the part-time move for 2024 - happy with the commercial support during the season, and that the financial position is sustainable, hoping to attract more fans from the rest of the county in 2024 (which will obviously require consistently improved results from the squad), will likely see more American and possibly UK players in the squad while still focusing on the local core, limited in what improvements can be made to Mounthawk Park but will discuss same with the KDL.
Do they have a mid/long term stadium plan at all?
A 25-year lease was signed with the KDL in the spring, so they can discuss refurbishments together over the close season, but capacity won't be a worry unless/until form consistently improves, and being in a residential area, development will necessarily be incremental in nature.
There's almost certainly the space to extend the stand the entire length of the pitch, and put in something a little better on the opposite side of the ground, but they're a bit snookered on either end.Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
https://twitter.com/ByBarryLandy/sta...17057562681776
Q&A from the new Drogheda investors this evening,won’t be going full time next season and might not be for a couple of seasons either…..
The official YouTube channel has a ten minute interview with a Tricor director up: https://youtu.be/kpf33C2Qz4s?si=WxDL9RH8UeM_Qad-
Makes it sound like they have been very hands-off this season, but who knows really.
They'll not be needing a full-time squad in the First Division anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
I dunno, things are looking like you could need to have a FT setup to bounce back especially if another premier side gets relegated. Not massive money f/t like Galway but its moving in the direction of p/t not being enough. If Drogs were FT now or last season itd be imteresting to see if thered be a marked difference.
Finn Harps were largely FT last year and we were a shambles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I'm not sure where the myth came from that we were paying massive money last year. We were FT granted, but we were hardly paying loads of our players 600-700 a week or something in the First Division. The team we start every week now usually has at least 8 or 9 players from last years squad in it. Our budget would've been in line with Waterford's last year as well. The club has been very sensible and lived within its means after promotion, I'm sure Caulfield would've wanted a lot more in terms of budget, but we've only added modestly to the squad over the off season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
A lot of people assumed that we would fair like Cork last year due to not really doing a big overhaul on the squad after promotion, but we had a strong squad last year with an experienced backbone, and they have done really well so far this year.
Dave Rogers was even worse than you can imagine!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Fair enough, massive money over last two years! Galway should probaly have been given special status of the 4th biggest budget in the league, maybe with Waterford last season. If you were paying any of your players 600-700 a week in the 1st division then you were paying massive money!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Olander
Beware JC! He convinced his beloved Cork City Foras to spend for return of a bocht club. The Comers wont run out of money but Caulfield isnt a basement budget manager when he gets a whiff of possible silverware!
Didn't one of the Comers say a few months ago that he was personally putting over a million in per season. I can't remember where but I'm pretty sure I wasn't dreaming about Galway United budgets :D
Now think about that for a second. Do you think if the Comers were pumping in over a million euro into the club every season that we'd be starting Stephen Walsh up front?Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
I remember reading that article too. We have 8 teams but no training ground, the cost of renting facilities must be massive. Also have to rent Terryland, Athenry, Moyne Villa and Oranmore for matches. After what we went through in 2011/12/13 and our recent seven year stint in the First Division, I hope we have the fourth biggest budget!
Clubs do indeed cost an incredible amount to run. Having a million extra to look after all that stuff would certainly take pressure off finding cash for the first team.
Its very LoI old to be tetchy on how much is being paid especially on players or it seeming like a needed badge of honour to be achieving on a smaller budget than others. Tbh who cares at this stage except for those who cant access the sort off money the Comers, Dermot Desmond, Kelleher etc can, to b able to push the limit of budgets with a safety net. If the Comers were throwing in 3mil then Galways fans should be 3 times happier than they currenty are. The fly in the ointment is if you give JC an additional 2mil for players he would just sign a few technically gifted footballers to keep the bench warm and raid Galway GAA for grunts!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
This is true! :D
To be fair to Caulfield, compared to what he did while at Cork, at least he's getting rid of lads who he's fallen out with, rather than having them around the club and training with the u20s etc.
Desmond hasn't put a penny in since he bought 25% of the club for 2m 5 years ago. In the same period members have put in close to that , we've had about 7m in transfers and group stage euro money once and a million a year thereabouts in the other years....Desmond gets a lot of comment but he is a minor part of the clubs funding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Not a criticism of him btw just reality.
7th place in the First Division for Treaty this year. 7 points off the playoffs. 34 points behind Cork City. There was a positive very early start before their season unraveled.
Galway going well. Cork returning to the Premier Division.
They are the only LoI club in the midwest region, extending to Clare and Tipperary. Treaty are the only city club struggling.
Are the current owners likely to turn that around?
I have heard rumours that Treaty are changing their name to Limerick again!Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Got a marginal budget increase under new ownership, lost key players in off season for the umpteenth time and couldn't possibly replace them.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Worst squad ever, as Tommy Barrett pretty much said before a ball was kicked, and yet average crowd almost doubled. Yet people pick holes in that too.
All those other cities are far further ahead in their development than we are. Limerick going to the wall in 2019 set things back years. Treaty have no facilities and are keen to get that sorted as soon as possible.
I'm not saying Treaty aren't immune to criticism, but some of the hyperbole around the club (and I'll extend that to Longford also) when they aren't winning every week is head-scratching. For example, Cobh's attendances dropped by 30% despite the fact they had two home games vs Cork City in 2024. Nobody bats an eye.
As to the question, it looks like there will be a budget increase including accommodation available to outside players in 2025, something that Kerry used to good effect in 2024. There are some handy players coming through the academy with 3+ on the radar of clubs in England which could bring in a few quid and help secure land which is of the greatest importance.
I have some magic beans for you, Marty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
This seems to be the most recent "club ownership" thread, so might as well post this John Wall profile here - apparently considered buying Bray at first, and then got advice from Dermot Usher on whether or not to take the plunge at Kerry. Certainly seems as though he recognises it will be a long-haul project, rather than making rash promises:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-41572954.html
Agreed, thanks for sharing this. Certainly if he's looking at it as a long term project, building the club off the pitch as well as on it and bringing the community with him, I would say things bode well for Kerry.
Here's hoping he doesn't get bored after 3 years and ups stick for another club!
With Treaty United now owned by the Canadian-based investment group led by Tricor Pacific Capital Inc., have the First Division Club been able to operate as a full-time set up?
By the by, Cobh Ramblers have 14 senior players operating on a full-time basis as well as the First Team Manager, under the new owners FC32.
I think Dundalk have a similar set-up?
Anyone have any information on these clubs or other First Division clubs set-up!
Wow is there that many on full-time contracts in Cobh?Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
I thought they were still mainly part-time based on this recent article from Extra Time:
https://www.extratime.com/articles/3...cobh-ramblers/
We are PT only for a hell of a long time now and will be for the foreseeable future. The support base isnt there unfortunately!Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Head Coach: Michael McDermott Full-time
Players signed in on full-time contracts:
Goalkeeper:
Timothy Martin (Royal Excelsior Virton)
Defenders:
Shane Griffin (Shelbourne),
Cian Coleman, (Cork City),
John O’Donovan(Cork City),
Jonas Häkkinen (Free Agent),
Midfield:
Shane Griffin (Bray Wanderers),
Niall O’Keeffe (Waterford),
Cian Murphy (Cork City),
Barry Coffey (Cork City).
Forwards:
Cian Bargary(Cork City),
Jack Doherty (Cork City),
Sam Bellis (Waterford),
George Nunn (HK Kópavogs).
Are those 14 really 'full-time' training during the day-time or afternoons or are they classified as full-time professionals training in the evenings because they are getting paid a minimum of the €430 salary which is of the PFAI's criteria for being a full-time professional? I heard Shane Griffin (the ex-Shels league winner one) was meant to working in a new job along with playing for Cobh
They train mornings and have lads in accommodation but vast majority either studying or working in some capacity.Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
Heard most that have signed, are on full-time contracts and train on a full-time basis. That seems to be a minimum of 4 days training. Most have part-time jobs that allow them combine their training schedule to suit. Some of the jobs are school coaching and personal training coaching. A number have been sponsored by a business who have also offered some form of part-time work. Several of the squad from last year are mainly part-time and work or study in full-time jobs or college. The Manager is employed on a full-time basis and supervises and consults on all the teams within the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
The club has moved to a full-time operation in all aspects of match day. This would involve team preparation for home and away fixtures in regards to travel, accommodation, backroom staff and all arrangements involved in team preparation.
The new owners FC32 have decided to move to a more professional schedule with promotion being the main objective!
Where are FC32 from and is this the first time that Cobh Ramblers are FT?Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637