Luke o donnell made debut for derry City last night and fitzgerald is playing for Galway are they on.loan back from wolves?
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Luke o donnell made debut for derry City last night and fitzgerald is playing for Galway are they on.loan back from wolves?
Did Luke O'Donnell actually sign for Wolves in the end? I think he played a few trial games there during the summer without signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
Believe players under the age of 18 are not allowed to be loaned to clubs abroad. So wouldn't say either player are on loan with Derry or Galway from Wolves. If they're even both actually Wolves players given their age.
Easy.
Our run of ridiculously difficult draws continues. Doesn't seem to matter the age group or gender at this point. Feels like we're a virtual certainty to get England in the Nations League next year.
Just like Wales' run of soft draws continues...literally every single team in their group is much easier than the weakest side in our group...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
You cant help but laugh, you couldnt have hand picked a more difficult group if you tried yet we manage it every time...
It must be remembered the reason we are now in this position is because of Israel's withdraw all results against bottom sides were discarded as result. It meant we were relegated to pot 4 from pot 3 and Croatia were relegated prom pot 2 to pot 3...
Granted you know even if this wasnt the case we'd just get Belgium from pot 4 instead of Croatia/Germany.
Great experience all the same.
Would you swap POR/GER/CRO/IRL for ENG/FRA/HUN/NIR?Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Not sure there's anything in it, tbh.
Easy now the Israelis embassy will be compliningQuote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Pity about the **** draw as from next year it's gonna be way tougher to qualify as UEFA reduced the finals tournament to 8 teams again.
I still don’t know why the are decreasing it to 8…really makes it down to luck of the draw more than anything as in alot of cases there isn’t much between a lot of the sides.
Looking at this group one thing we need to remember is while Croatia are of course a great footballing nation they actually aren’t that great at u17s/u19 level, last year was the first u17s they qualified for since 2015!, so you’d possibly have Ireland ahead of Croatia when it comes to CO-efficient at this level. So it’s comes down to can we pop one of Germany or Portugal are qualify as they are both just as good at u17 level as they are at senior level!
For context the ranking and co-efficient in Europe is
Germany 6th & 19,500
Portugal 7th & 18,500
Ireland 9th & 16,333
Croatia 27th & 8,667
Republic of Ireland Men’s Under-17s Squad
Goalkeepers:
Joe Collins (Bohemians)
Oisin Cooney (Finn Harps)
Defenders:
Luca Cailloce (Shelbourne)
Kaylem Harnett (Wexford)
Taylor McCarthy (Shelbourne)
Harry McGlinchey (Chelsea)
James Roche (Shamrock Rovers)
Finn Sherlock (Shelbourne)
Egor Vassenin (Klub Kildare)
Midfielders:
Rory Finneran (Blackburn Rovers)
Niall McAndrew (Derby County)
Matthew Moore (Hoffenheim)
Luke O’Donnell (Derry City)
Cathal O’Sullivan (Cork City)
Aaron Ochoa Moloney (Malaga)
Forwards:
Kyle Fitzgerald (Galway United)
Mason Melia (St. Patrick’s Athletic)
Matt Murray (Cork City)
Michael Noonan (St. Patrick’s Athletic)
Jaden Umeh (Cork City)
UEFA European Under-17 Championship Qualifiers – Group 5
Wednesday, March 20 |. Portugal MU17 v Ireland MU17, Cidade Desportiva do SC Braga, Portugal, KO 4pm
Saturday, March 23 | Germany MU17 v Ireland MU17, Dr. José Matos, Viana Castelo, Portugal, KO 11am
Tuesday, March 26 | Ireland MU17 v Croatia MU17, Dr. José Matos, Viana Castelo, Portugal, KO 11am
All games will be shown on YouTube as well.
A 3 all draw in the Germany Croatia gameQuote:
Originally Posted by JR89
https://www.uefa.com/under17/match/2...eland/lineups/
Murray and umeh should be a good wide threath off the bench if trying to push for the win late on
Germany had a last minute penalty saved too.
Stream here
1-0 down. Keeper error. It was his second & possibly third error inside the opening fifteen minutes.
thought it was the pass from Roche that put the keeper under pressure, although he controlled it badly.
It's all Portugal so far, apart from a close range chance for Melia
2-0 now. Defending not great.
2-1 now. Penalty with Melia taken down. Maybe a little fortunate as it looked to possibly be outside the box. Well taken penalty though sending the keeper the wrong way.
Great chance to equalise
Yeah should be level great missed opportunity. Unfortunate error from keeper. The 5 at the back isn't really suiting us as we have no pace on the break. Melia really looks the real deal. The move between mcandrew and melia to win the peno was classQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Could have been, yes, but in no way could you argue we should have been or deserved to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
4-1 now and that reflects what I've seen today far more accurately. Tough last 30 ahead of these lads now
I feel at underage level when we come up against the big nations we tend to show them far too much respect and it shows in the way we play.
Obviously was always going to be a tough task to get anything out of the game even if we played out of our skin but we looked like a side that has thrown in the towel before a ball was even kicked.
Finished 2-0 to Germany in the end. Just the one game against Croatia left who are a point ahead of us and play Portugal later today.
For next season the Euros will be returning to a 8 team tournament.
Missed a great one on one chance ti equalise before Germany got the second which was a horrible deflection from a nothing shot. A fairly even game. Defensively we have been poor ,Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
I just hope next campaign we get a more challenging group. This group was far too easy, so much so they got too far ahead of themselves and forgot about the basics of defence....Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
Final qualifier against Croatia is on YouTube
A good lesson for this team about taking you're chances at this level and defending.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Croatia 2-0 up despite only having 2 real goalscoring opportunities throughout.
I would have real question marks about Colin O'Brien at this stage, I understand its a difficult group but the way we've approached the 3 games has been desperate. We almost have the look of a side who knew we were going to lose before a ball is kicked.
Think it's definitely about time we consider changing up some coaches at underage. O'Brien and Mohan have been overseeing the U17s and U19s nearly 8 years now.
Definitely on the back of these 3 gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Ireland losing 4-0 which judging on this match is absolutely disgraceful, they've just given up and when a team get's to that stage that should be the sign that its time for change. If you were Germany in the other game you'd be ****ed with Ireland with their attitude in this match.
Now 5-0, an absolute disgrace. I dont want to go in on the players as they are just kids but the coaches really have to hang their heads in shame after this performance never mind the other 2. You could have a degree of sympathy in the other games but today was just a case of Ireland completely jacking it in the minute Croatia took the lead.
Played three, lost three, conceded 11, scored one. When you also include the three games we played back in November we've failed to score in four of the six qualifiers this season. Two 0-0 draws against Iceland and Switzerland and we beat Armenia 4-0 in the first game.
I think that paints a picture of the way the team has been set up this campaign, just safe. It was quite noticeable in the preliminary rounds that we were very plodding in our play and reliant on Umeh,Orazi,Melia etc to create something. I'm sort of glad they've been so embarrassingly exposed this round.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Less than a year later and three of the players from the squad in the qualifying stage - Finneran, Moloney, and McDonnell - have gone on to play senior football outside of Ireland. That must be a first for an U17 squad?
Not only that, but they're all midfielders. Thank God!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
But all duals!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
Well (if they have the requisite talent and the right attitude) then cap them early and often.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
We have to be much more proactive now with dual nationals.