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23/08/2005, 8:08 AM
rerun

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Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

Shelbourne FC is a proper club with real ambitions.

UCD ??? go back to ur books, shouldnt even be in the league

So why shouldn't UCD be in the league? They obviously have the quality to remain in the eircom Premier and recover from relegation. Maybe just Shels getting tetchy because they're on the slide? And talking of books, get yourself a dictionary.
23/08/2005, 8:25 AM
EnDai

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Originally Posted by chippie0001

That quote should be framed. Shows the arrogance of Shels to a tee. Congrats UCD and fair play.

To be honest, you don't see m/any others with an attitude like that.

UCD deserve their place in the final, solely because they wanted to be there. They worked hard and it paid off. Not one Shelbourne player appeared to put any effort into the game, at all, and two silly defensive errors gave away the goals. But that doesn't matter, the team with the best attitude went through, and they played some good football on the night too. About 90% of the game consisted of passing it about amongst the Shels back 4, terrible to watch.

Congratulations to UCD, and I hope you win it! Love to see them in the Setanta cup! :D

And as for saying they shouldn't be in the league - thats just barmy! They are here on merit, and merit alone. And they're doing better than other teams that perhaps "should" be in the league, so that argument is just pointless!

Again, congratulations.
23/08/2005, 8:42 AM
patsh

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Originally Posted by Cop on

One win ?? One win?? Get your facts right patsh. We walloped you in the FAI cup a couple of years ago. Did you win in the Flansiro last year ?? NO. If you had - and if you had held your nerve - the league was there for the taking. You wimped out last year & now you're looking a one big huge choke this year.
Trouble for you is, where are the goals gonna come from ?? Poor old John O Flynn (or Flynny as you lot call him. What a poncey nickname. Its something you'd expect to call a private-schoolboy in South Dublin.) anyway, poor old Flynny couldn't score to save his life. Are you gonna start playing Behan or Bruton ?? I mean, where are the goals gonna come from ?? (You could always ask UCD for the loan of a striker :D :D )

Goals?
This from the 11 man defence who have managed the grand total of 18 goals in 22 games?
You poor obsessed mid-table mediocrity, just let it go.
Your obsession is quite touching really, but not surprising given one win in 3 seasons.
There can't be much fun in watching a perrenial mid-table side, grind out yet another 0- 0 draw, or if they get incredibly lucky, get a 1 - 0 win.
Keep obsessing and fantasising about Cork City,you probably don't have much else in your sorry little life......

:p
23/08/2005, 8:49 AM
Macy

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Originally Posted by BohsFan

No it was not. Seriously though, if they announced it ages ago, why would they be announcing it again?

To raise interest in the semi's of the league cup, and isn't the CIS Cup going on in the North at the moment? I'll have a look for the old thread...
23/08/2005, 10:35 AM
patsh

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Originally Posted by Cop on

I'm sitting here looking at two shiny cups. We're fourth in the table chasing the mighty $hel$. Life is very sweet indeed.
The chokers are counting their millions & looking into a dusty trophy cabinet. Nothing to show for the last 7 years. If 'Flynnie' (what a poxy nickname) don't start rattling the back of the net soon, the shed'll be empty !

All you are doing is looking at your keyboard and continuing to express your total obsession with all things Cork City related.
You long, long ago stopped saying anything original or vaguely amusing, you are just a pathetic little saddo, obsessed with Cork City, the club that routinely beats your "team" home and away.
The entire content of your posts are "choke" "Flynnie" "millions"...sad, sad little boy.

A bit of advice, get some grown-up to buy you Playboy, you can toss off to the pictures in that, rather than your fantasies about Cork City, for a change.

BTW, I hope you regularly wash down your keyboard, it must be getting very sticky by now....

:D
23/08/2005, 11:40 AM
patsh

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Originally Posted by Cop on

You can't take it. You can't take it. You have to resort to pathetic, childish insults that I won't even dignify with a reply.

Thanks for the reply, little bog w*nker.
NOT A SOLITARY WIN for plucky little Longford in over 3 seasons of league games against Cork City.

Of course, Longford don't do league games do they?
Or European games for that matter.....
:D
23/08/2005, 11:49 AM
patsh

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Originally Posted by Cop on

It's a comin'. Its a comin'.

So are you, EVERY time you think of Cork City....:D
23/08/2005, 11:55 AM
patsh

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Originally Posted by Cop on

Ah yeah, I'm just wetting myself at the thoughts of 'Flynnie' scoring his only league goal in the eleven remaining games against us. That'll probably come from one of three penalties ye will get on the night - ye will miss the other two :D :D

You wet yourself at the thoughts on anything to do with Cork City....

Surely there is a doctor near your boghole that could help you?:eek:
23/08/2005, 12:51 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

Bohs fans

[SIZE=7]2-1[/SIZE]

[SIZE=7]2-1[/SIZE] you say? :D :D :D :D :D
23/08/2005, 12:53 PM
pineapple stu

Damn, just beat me to it! :p
23/08/2005, 12:57 PM
niamh

The final decision was only made recently. When the originally story went up on the BBC, the parties had not even meet to discuss things at that stage.
At least having eight teams in the competition will even it out in terms of travelling...two from the north and two from the south in each I presume.
23/08/2005, 12:57 PM
jorge

This might have been asked already but what happens if Derry win and they get a European spot?

Who gets the Setanta place? :confused:
23/08/2005, 1:01 PM
patsh

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Originally Posted by Cop on

...Cork City...Flynnie...Rico...My big mastubatory fantasy... :eek:

OBSESSED.....:D
23/08/2005, 1:03 PM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by jorge

This might have been asked already but what happens if Derry win and they get a European spot?

Who gets the Setanta place? :confused:

Then 3rd place in the league goes in I think.

I assume the Setanta will have some sort of seeding to keep the league winners apart? Will there be semis now? Or just group winners face off in a final?
23/08/2005, 1:37 PM
pete

IMO the Setanta Cup should go to CL & Uefa Cup qualifiers (this includes FAI Cup runner up if required). I think only LC winners should qualify, if they've already qualified through other means then should go to next best league placing.

Is the Setanta Cup now the beginning of All-Ireland League through the backdoor?
23/08/2005, 1:54 PM
Schumi

It's more sensible for the place to revert to the league if either cup winner has qualified through the league even if it doesn't help us!
23/08/2005, 5:25 PM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by pete

Is the Setanta Cup now the beginning of All-Ireland League through the backdoor?

I doubt it. If you ask me it is the best solution. Meaningful competitive games across border in a seperate competition with cash and TV coverage on top of the domestic leagues and still 6 European places between the two leagues. I think it satisfies all involved.
23/08/2005, 5:58 PM
sligoman

I think it's a bit unfair announcing that it's been extended to the league cup winners now, considering that there were only 4 teams left in the competition when it was announced. If teams were informed earlier then they may have fielded stronger teams and took more of an interest in the competition. :mad:
23/08/2005, 6:02 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by pete

Is the Setanta Cup now the beginning of All-Ireland League through the backdoor?

it was until you ruined it pete, the northerners had no idea until this very thread.... :mad: :mad: :mad:
23/08/2005, 6:06 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by Dodge

it was until you ruined it pete, the northerners had no idea until this very thread.... :mad: :mad: :mad:

No one let me in on the 32 County Ireland plan via the Setanta Cup... :confused:
23/08/2005, 10:11 PM
A face

Setanta Cup extended to eight teams

Setanta Cup extended to eight teams

Following a review of the Setanta Cup between the Football Association of Ireland, the Irish Football Association and sponsors, Setanta Sports, it has been decided to extend the Tournament to eight teams.

The winners of the eircom League Cup and the CIS Cup in Northern Ireland will join the League winners and runners-up as well as the National Cup winners of each Association.

Read more at www.soccercentral.ie
23/08/2005, 10:41 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by pete

No one let me in on the 32 County Ireland plan via the Setanta Cup... :confused:

31 counties... Cork can **** off :D
23/08/2005, 10:47 PM
superfrank

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Originally Posted by Dodge

31 counties... Cork can **** off :D

If only it were that easy........ :D :(
23/08/2005, 10:52 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by Cop on

I'm sitting here looking at two shiny cups.

Get a good look at them & give them a polish as you`ll be looking at one less in a few weeks.
24/08/2005, 8:13 AM
paudie

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Originally Posted by sligoman

I think it's a bit unfair announcing that it's been extended to the league cup winners now, considering that there were only 4 teams left in the competition when it was announced. If teams were informed earlier then they may have fielded stronger teams and took more of an interest in the competition. :mad:

Indeed, I'd say the Mayo League are gutted they didn't put in more of an effort now.

Seriously though, it's a bit iffy announcing that the LC winners will qualify for a lucrative competition when only 4 teams are left in it.

For that reason alone I think the runners up should not qualify if the winners qualify through another route.

Not having a go at UCD, just my opinion.
24/08/2005, 9:15 AM
deecay

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Get a good look at them & give them a polish as you`ll be looking at one less in a few weeks.

It will be in Belfield :D :D :p
24/08/2005, 12:12 PM
Slash/ED

About the additional spot should Derry win and finish in the top two in the league, seems it'll go to third place...

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Shels strive for Setanta Cup call

Wednesday August 24th 2005

SHELBOURNE are in danger of missing out on the lucrative Setanta Cup after their shock defeat in Monday night's Eircom League Cup semi-final.

The FAI has extended the number of teams in the cross-border competition to eight but Shelbourne, beaten finalists this year, need a lot of things to go their way if they are to be among the four Eircom League representatives next season.

The champions and runners-up in the Eircom League will qualify along with the winners of the League Cup and FAI Cup.

Shels are out of the FAI Cup and appear to be also out of the running for either one of the top two places in the Premier Divisions.

If Shels finish third in the League then to qualify for the Setanta Cup, where the minimum amount of prize money last season was �30,000, they will need a big favour from their rivals.

If Derry City win the League Cup and finish first or second then Shels would qualify for the Setanta Cup. They would also qualify if Cork City and Derry reach the FAI Cup final and finished 1-2 in the league.

Alternatively, were Longford to win the League Cup and finish third behind Cork and Derry, with one of the top two winning the FAI Cup, Shels could make it by finishing fourth in the League.

Up north, Glentoran won the League and League Cup, Linfield finished second in the League and Portadown won the IFA Cup. Because Glens won the League Cup the fourth IFA place goes to Dungannon Swifts who finished fourth in the League.

Meanwhile, the Disciplinary Commission will meet today to hear charges against Shels Chief Executive Ollie Byrne, manager Pat Fenlon and midfielder Stuart Byrne arising out of the recent league game against Drogheda United.

Gerry McDermott
24/08/2005, 12:27 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

About the additional spot should Derry win and finish in the top two in the league, seems it'll go to third place...

I e-mailed the FAI today and they confirmed that's what'll happen.
24/08/2005, 1:07 PM
paudie

Why is Gerry McDermott talking in todays paper about the possibility of Longford winning the LEague Cup when they were knocked out last night? :rolleyes:

Did he have a premonition they'd beat Derry or something?

Also the NI LEague Cup for 05/06 will be over by the time of the next Setanta so Glens winning it last year won't count.
24/08/2005, 1:07 PM
EnDai

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I e-mailed the FAI today and they confirmed that's what'll happen.

I've done a quick U-Turn on wanting UCD to win now! Apologies! :D
24/08/2005, 1:09 PM
Slash/ED

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Originally Posted by paudie

Why is Gerry McDermott talking in todays paper about the possibility of Longford winning the LEague Cup when they were knocked out last night? :rolleyes:

Did he have a premonition they'd beat Derry or something?

Also the NI LEague Cup for 05/06 will be over by the time of the next Setanta so Glens winning it last year won't count.

I'm fairly sure they'll still go for them rather then the next winners, it's just easier that way.
24/08/2005, 4:14 PM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by Slash/ED

I'm fairly sure they'll still go for them rather then the next winners, it's just easier that way.

They're not as Glens have qualified through the league anyhow. If one of Ports, Linfield or Glens win this season's one then it'll go to Dungannon Swifts who finished 4th.

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