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Dundalk were woeful tonight. Managed to go from 2 up against ten men to struggling to a draw and then nicking three points. We are so slow and laboured, I’ve never seen a team just play it around the back with no impetus, well not since last week in Tolka.
Have to say very very poor by Dundalk for 45 mins of the second half, lucky for us and John Martin that chance came on 90+1, possibly the only decent move of the half too.
Drogs did not deserve to lose that, but we won, and we move on, questions still there but a win and 3 points, move on to Monday and UCD away, if we can win its obv 6 points from BH w/e.
Rovers were poor this evening and Sligo really should feel they left 3 behind them. Will take it though as left pts behind in all other games!
Some absolute vermin up in the Brandywell again tonight. Firstly not providing a food truck specifically for away fans resulted in some kids in pats get getting jumped at half time. Then after the final whistle while being held back a group of Derry fans jump over the wall beside the away end to throw glass bottles at the pats fans. Then another group of them push open a gate that wasn’t closed by security and both sets of fans clashed on the grass behind that goal. It was quite funny when the little jumped up knackers got ran back out of the ground by retaliating pats fans but my god Derry have a massive security issue up there. I know they don’t have PSNI up there but opting for a completely inept and seemingly untrained security firm is surely not the answer. Surely games behind closed doors or a reduced capacity will need to be looked at if they can’t provide adequate safety for supporters within their own ground
On the pitch, a fully deserved win for Derry. I thought pats were poor but having said that Derry still failed to score from open play with the goals coming from a penalty and a corner. Lyness pulled off some great saves in the first half but second half there was very little chances in the game aside from the goals. I’d rather see Derry win the league than rovers but comparing rovers performance last week with anything I’ve seen from Derry so far, they appear to be levels above them performance wise
Bohs were terrible last night, passing was abysmal and slow, lacked intensity and initiative. Need Coote back quickly. I've seen a few quotes about the condition of the pitch, it was the same for both teams and UCD were able to string passes together, this was purely because Bohs stood back off them. Need to up the Ante big style on Monday
Certainly didn’t deserve to lose that but need to take your chances. Played some lovely stuff. The good pitch really suited us. Shams just more clinical then us. Lovely finishes for the 2 goals. Think we would have won if Hartmann was fit.
Kerry's first foray into the U17 league in 2016 was a difficult season. Senior level is naturally going to be under more scrutiny.
Agree but as already said last night helped redress all the previous games where we should of won but only drew- most interesting duel last night was Pico v Mata ; can’t remember when I last saw a centre forward who was able to match Pico for physicality - I’d say both of them have a few brusies/lumps today nothing dirty ( aside from Bolger doing his usual sneaky hard man act but that’s another story) just good old fashioned toe to toe - based on his performance Mata could well be a potential replacement/addition to GaffneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Good result for Treaty and comprehensive in the end,hardly cause for belief in terms of playoff ambitions.For the most part in spite of the scoreline it was muck ,the bit of class only coming from Alec Byrne and the lively Dean George,Kerrys penalty miss and the rebound cleared off the line coupled with Treaty scoring seconds later a big factor in the game.Kerry tbf are giving their local talent a chance ,obviously baby steps in terms of developement as evidenced by the very poor defending all game so big learning curves ahead ,the decent away following appeciated the efforts the players gave.Att around 500 /600 id say and maybe one local in the Treaty team ,few in the squad.btw embarassing to see no stretcher for Colin Kelly when injured.
Can I just say whilst largely in agreement with your post there was a small group of Pats lads who came toward the chippy area looking for trouble during the 1st half in fact a few of them tried to start a few kids several years their young (by kids i do mean children) and ended up getting slapped because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Mata puts in a serious shift every game. Maybe lacking a yard of pace might be the only thing. Was a great battle between the 2 of them. Not sure what Bolger did but it looked like Towell was just sent on to take fellas out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Jamal Ibrahim was our no 11. His first first team start in a good few weeks. He was electric all night long!Quote:
Originally Posted by thebronze14
Give it a break Aido ..getting embarrassing at this stage . The mighty junior players want to stay at pike Fairview and the go to it is what it is
Bolger took Byrne out mid through first half plus numerous slightly late tackles ( he’s a fine player but has always had that ‘inner gurrier’ mentality that takes away from the rest of his game )…. As for Towell , this season he seems to be reinventing himself as some sort of ‘all round action’ man ….. unfortunately he’s incapable of tackling correctly as shown by the silly tackle on Bolger that ironically looked innocuous but put him out of the game… aside from that he’s greatly improved this year and is now a real asset (again)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Sligo were brave on Friday, numerous times i said to my mate beside me to look accross the line and it was often 4 sligo forwards against the 3 Rovers centrebacks with Farrugia and Clarke way forward.
They let the Rovers wingbacks go stayed forward hence the numerous chances they had...on thr other hand Clarke scored as he was so far forward and Rovers looked dangerous as well.
Made for a good match.
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Wow! We might have an actual consensus on the worst quality season ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinkicker
Calling top 4 settling in to some sort of order, was premature (patsdad :rolleyes:), tope 3 maybe though I still think Bohs will fade albeit still comfortably european spot imo. Dundalk lucky to get 3 points, Sligo not getting something, UCD nabbing a point v te current table toppers - may not be dead and buried in automatic relegation. Mad that for a bunch of clubs 2 wins and on the coat tails at the top, 2 losses and looking over the shoulder at a playoff spot. Its certainly intriguing but there is a sense that there's a generalised regression of clubs in terms of overall quality. No excuse for Rovers and Derry mind, they should be storming away really - they will in due course but even at this stage consistancy is sketchy still.
Was thinking the exact same thing. It’s a bit of an indictment that Rovers and Derry have been below par and yet are still 2nd and 3rd. I fully expect that sooner or later they’ll both find their form and pull well away from the pack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Interested to see how Bohs perform against Cork on Monday. The full time pros have been outplayed in their last 2 by the part time Drogs and UCD. Is it just a blip, or are they reverting back to their mean?
On the standard I was thinking recently it would be highly unlikely the current top 3 will change in terms of finishing there, but stranger things can happen.
It will take a huge collapse and downturn in form for Bohs to move from 1st to 4th for example, but 2 defeats and wins for chasing pack could change all of that, that said I think Bohs have enough momentum built to finish top 3, but again the two defeats thing that can happen any club could change things.
Realistically, the chasing pack are looking at 4th and a top 3 winning the cup (80% chance is fair to say) and that gets final euro spot ? so who is best placed for that?
1/ Pats - good squad, home support has increased but losing a good few key games.
2/ Shels - I'm not sure they can finish 4th, but they are dogged.
3/ Sligo - Hot and cold, they have a chance, Max is the man to score, so always good to have that.
4/ Then ourselves, left Dundalk last on purpose, yes 6 players out injured including big ones too in Boyle / Kelly / Sloggett / Annesely, all bar last one expected back soon, Mountney gone for season, but one more injury for Hoban and we are goosed, also form and results not great, so I don't see us (for now) anywhere close to 4th, positives, young local lad Ryan O'Kane is one fire, scored last Fri, Hoban back to his best (if he stays fit), ................but this team seems to be a serious work in progress, made huge work out of beating 10 man Drogs, who did not deserve to lose on fri, but its 3 points. I still don't see us finishing 4th, maybe 5th, but will need to improve so much.
You wouldn’t be so confident about Bohs if you had seen them on Friday - they were dreadful. Easily outplayed by UCD. And Drogs the previous week.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Bohs are only 8 points off 4th. With 24 matches to go I wouldn’t be confident at all of them finishing in the top 3. Maybe Coote coming back will give them an injection though.
drogs are a good side imo not getting the rub of the green results wise. we (city) are terrible, id be shocked if bohs dont win handy enough. 2-0 in 3rd gear wouldnt surprise me. we were a bit unlucky friday in the first half but 2nd half shels were miles better. we are desperately low on confidence i think it'll be the end of healy if we lose tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
Massive game on Monday Derry city v Shamrock rovers. With Derry putting on a good performance on Friday really looking forward to this one. With Duffy, Whelan and O'Rielly back from injury finally and looking sharp hopefully all three will play most of the game and with Connelly, Fats and Dummigan back training looking forward to the next few months of the season.
Watching the last highlights from Bohs and seeing them in the Brandywell I think they'll be lucky to get 4th but they've had a good start. For me 3rd is between Dundalk and Pats.
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Originally Posted by Candystripe
dundalk??? id be shocked if they are anywhere near europe come the end of the season. they are a poor side.
Shels will have boyd back sometime in June hopefully (for him) and he might keep them in the hunt.
Thought the same after our match in Tallaght.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
We certainly should have scored from play on Friday. Not taking our chances will cost it over the course of the season.
Counter to that, we've scored two goals from corners in the last two games, which has been something of a rarity for us recently.
Also thought the penalty was a foul, albeit Grayson made sure contact was made after he seemed to be losing possession.
Not entirely confident tonight, even if Rovers mightn't haven't played well on Friday. You'd expect them to come at us and play, but I think we're easier to play against by sitting back and hitting us on the break.
I think Rovers have been very good this season if a little unlucky ‘ less clinical than usual. Poor on Friday but Sligo were very impressive and should have taken all 3 points. Derry are strong and now have Duffy and Whelan back. Bohs picking up points even when not playing well. Pats appear to be too inconsistent like Sligo. Shels won’t score ‘ concede many & I think the other 4 will be bottom 4 (unless Hoban really goes on a run).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
massive couple of weeks for the 3 leaders with all facing offf and everyone getting a chance at home
Ian Ryan going to quickly come under pressure at Bray, shocking run of results including getting smacked by Usher Celtic. A lot of talk about centre back Cole for his goal scoring, but they are shipping goals galore, not sure he's a great defender to be honest. The natives will be getting restless ery quickly.
A fairly comfortable win for Wexford in Waterford, not a single shot on target for the blues, title race effectively over now.
More rubbish from us today. Sligos keeper didn't have a save to make. We're such a poor side. Neil Doyle was poor yet again, missed a load of handballs although I think the sending off was correct. Don't know what Eoin Doyle was thinking.
Bizzare red card for Cork and a cracking free kick for Bohs in the space of a couple minutes,I’ve no idea what the red card was for and neither did the commentators!
Actually a triple whammy as a few mins earlier the ref blew for a foul when Cork player was through on goal…. Usual never ending risible officiating… and ref also looks overweightQuote:
Originally Posted by joey B
The player sent off was in a clash with Afolabi may have left something on him while on the ground or said something to the ref. I think the former and think the lino possibly spotted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
I've been more patient than most but Clancy can g'way to he honest. Second season here and he has 3 total wins vs Rovers, Derry, Dundalk and Sligo in over 20 games. Totally reliant on a better squad vs the weakest teams in the league and there's no sign of it improving, the coaching looks miles off it relative to other sides as far as I can see.
1 shot on target in 3 games now. Wasting a lot of the good that's going on with the club off the pitch.
Cork can't be as bad as Harps, can they?
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Cork were awful. I do think we were better anyway with Flores and Coote back in but Cork offered nothing and the subs made them worse. Lovely strikes from Flores and McManus.
I’ll take a draw from the later game.
Ryan Kelliher has at least stepped up to the mark for Kerry when presented with chances, even if they've been very much at a premium so far, Seán McGrath having already shown at Cobh what he's capable of doing.
with healy in charge we are. he'll hopefully be gone tonight. our squad is extremely limited but we have been shambolic most of the season. bohs goal was coming just before the red anyway we hadnt crossed the half way line in 20 mins. far far too negative. drogs are a lot better than usQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Shels were really poor for the first 70 minutes until our equaliser glad to come away with a point from that game in the end
When Kerry arrive for matchday, they need to try and park the bus before the wheels come off.
Treaty are on the playoff train.