LOI in Europe 2023

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26/05/2023, 3:30 PM
oriel

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Fair point, but in that run ye needed injury time winners against Drogheda and Cork and couldn't beat a Shels side down to 10 men for 80 minutes. It's not great form.

Ah i think in hindsight its probably a fair shout, this season's Dundalk is a mixed bag, performances can go from brilliant in one half, playing ok yet winning 5-0 (Pats at home) to playing poor yet still somehow winning games (Drogs H+A, and possibly Sligo A are 3 examples) to being pure awful (Derry away).

God knows what europe will bring, should be strong enough to get to round 2, then if no big injury list should be in with a decent chance in R2, but that's prob our limits all of course draw dependent.

Then again also all depends on what type of Dundalk turns up too.
30/05/2023, 10:17 PM
Real ale Madrid

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Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Maybe. Last year, 41st and above got into the 2nd round. Could have something to do with who wins the competitors this year, and whether they need the tournament holder spots.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Russia and Liechtenstein could skew things too? Wiki is saying Cup winners from 20-39 and up start in the second round too though.

Anything to do with Ukraine not holding a cup competition this year - I see that nearly everyone is up a spot in the Seedings page but Bert Kassies doesn't comment.
31/05/2023, 10:54 AM
EalingGreen

Taken from another site:

https://www.irishleaguesupporters.co...6&d=1685393292

Sorry about the need to click (can't upload image itself), but assuming that is correct and up-to-date, then Dundalk (and Linfield and Crusaders) are seeded, while St.Pats and Derry (and Glentoran) are unseeded.
31/05/2023, 11:12 AM
brendy_�ire

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

Anything to do with Ukraine not holding a cup competition this year - I see that nearly everyone is up a spot in the Seedings page but Bert Kassies doesn't comment.

Their cup slot is being moved to the league.

Read that if Roma win the EL tonight, and finish sixth or above in Serie A, we get bumped up a round. Not particularly hopeful of that happening, mind.
@irishuefacoeff has the info on twitter.
31/05/2023, 9:54 PM
TonyD

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Originally Posted by placid casual

pats are such a dark horse in Europe its hard to know what to expect from them- for me the were the most impressive LOI team in Europe last year, based on their opposition

I think an awful lot depends on us getting some defenders back from injury, particularly Joe Redmond. I�d also be worried about a lack of real firepower upfront, though we do have a bit of pace with Jake Mulraney and Serge. We did do well last year, still feel hard done by with the penalty decision that put us out.
01/06/2023, 8:23 AM
Philosophizer

Pats were excellent last year in Europe. When you have a team like CSKA giving an exhibition in time wasting for the last 10 mins of a tie you know you�ve given them a game.
01/06/2023, 8:25 AM
Philosophizer

But I suspect it will be a tougher task this year for them with the defensive injury crisis. Hopefully Daly will be able to bring in some reinforcements during the break.
02/06/2023, 10:15 AM
Philosophizer

Vinny Perth was talking on OTB and mentioned how in previous years the league winners usually had about 38-40 points at this stage.
It�s not a great sign going into Europe that our top teams have all had patchy form so far this year but hopefully they can still pull some form out of the bag for the European ties.
03/06/2023, 5:03 PM
TonyD

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Originally Posted by Philosophizer

But I suspect it will be a tougher task this year for them with the defensive injury crisis. Hopefully Daly will be able to bring in some reinforcements during the break.

And we had another centre back go off injured last night (Jay McGrath) It�s getting worrying. We may need to bring in bodies during the break, but that�s always a bit of a shot in the dark.
20/06/2023, 7:28 AM
Dave77

Is draw for europe today?
20/06/2023, 7:40 AM
sbgawa

Yes the draw is today. 1pm Irish time
Rovers are seeded with the following possible draws

Ki Klaksvik (Faroes)
Preliminary round winner
BK Hacken (Swedan) PLEASE AVOID
Balkani (KOS)
FC Struga (North Macedonia)

Apart from Hacken where we would be big under dogs the rest all look like ties we have a chance in
20/06/2023, 7:43 AM
MichaelCherrito

Derry City�s potential rivals in today�s draw:

Riga, Crusaders, KF Shkendija, Levadia Tallin or HB Torshavn.

Dundalk�s potential rivals:

Vikingur, FCB Magpies, Vllaznia, Akureyri or SC Gjilani.

Draw is at 14.00.
20/06/2023, 7:47 AM
sbgawa

Conference League draw in at 2pm Irish time
Groups for the Irish teams below

Seeded
1 Linfield FC (NIR)
2 Dundalk FC (IRL)
3 Connah's Quay Nomads FC (WAL)
4 FC Progr�s Niederkorn (LUX)
5 Inter Club d'Escaldes (AND)
Unseeded
6 KA Akureyri (ISL)
7 V�kingur (FRO)
8 SC Gjilani (KOS)
9 KF Vllaznia (ALB)
10 FCB Magpies (GIB)

Seeded
1 Riga FC (LVA)
2 KF Shk�ndija (MKD)
3 FC Levadia Tallinn (EST)
4 HB T�rshavn (FRO)
5 Crusaders FC (NIR)

Unseeded
6 M�K �ilina (SVK)
7 FC Haka Valkeakoski (FIN)
8 Derry City FC (IRL)
9 V�kingur Reykjav�k (ISL)
10 Haverfordwest County AFC (WAL)

Seeded
1 F91 Diddeleng (LUX)
2 FC Shkupi 1927 (MKD)
3 B36 T�rshavn (FRO)
4 G?ira United FC (MLT)
5 Europa FC (GIB)
6 FC Santa Coloma (AND)

Unseeded
7 Paide Linnameeskond (EST)
8 Saint Patrick's Athletic FC (IRL)
9 KF Dukagjini (KOS)
10 Glentoran FC (NIR)
11 FC Hegelmann Litauen (LTU)
12 Penybont FC (WAL
20/06/2023, 7:55 AM
Jack B

Would rather not have the North Macedonian or Faroe sides.

So I look forward to have to play one of them.
20/06/2023, 8:01 AM
sidewayspasser

Could be Faroese opposition for all four clubs
20/06/2023, 8:03 AM
pineapple stu

It's hard to find a tough draw for anyone in those tbh.

The unseeded pot in Derry's pool in particular is stronger than the seeded pot
20/06/2023, 9:17 AM
sbgawa

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Originally Posted by Jack B

Would rather not have the North Macedonian or Faroe sides.

So I look forward to have to play one of them.

We played FC Skupi last year and one thing i can tell you from having been in North Macedonia is you will enjoy the beer at �2 a pint and taxis where a 15 minute ride costs 3 or 4 euro........plus they are very beatable
20/06/2023, 9:31 AM
pineapple stu

Struga is a great spot - Lake Ohrid is beautiful and a stay in Ohrid town is well worth it. Plus an airport right on the door. There's far worse places to go.
20/06/2023, 9:35 AM
sbgawa

This draw is so important , avoid Hacken and we have a real chance ..its night and day and so important.
The first round that guarantees you 3 more rounds with a win is the single biggest game in the season..
20/06/2023, 10:54 AM
culloty82

After Ballkani's run last season, was expecting them to have beaten stronger opponents, but seems they only had to get past teams from the Faeroes, San Marino and Shkupi of Macedonia.
20/06/2023, 11:50 AM
EatYerGreens

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Originally Posted by sbgawa

Yes the draw is today. 1pm Irish time
Rovers are seeded with the following possible draws

Ki Klaksvik (Faroes)
Preliminary round winner
BK Hacken (Swedan) PLEASE AVOID
Balkani (KOS)
FC Struga (North Macedonia)

Apart from Hacken where we would be big under dogs the rest all look like ties we have a chance in

That's a kind draw for Rovers. Larne got a brutal set of potential opponents in Group 2, so hard to see how they'll progress this year.
20/06/2023, 12:11 PM
sbgawa

At homw to the preliminary winners. Avoided hacken the mainthing
20/06/2023, 12:12 PM
Buller

Where are Preliminary from?
20/06/2023, 12:18 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Buller

Where are Preliminary from?

I know that's a joke btw, but worth saying it's probably Budocnost Podgorica of Montenegro. Maybe Breidablik of Iceland, but unlikely to be the Andorra or San Marino team.

There's probably easier ties out there than the Montenegrin champions, but it's doable and certainly not Sweden!
20/06/2023, 12:19 PM
sidewayspasser

Preliminary round participants:
Breidablik (Iceland)
Buducnost Podgorica (Montenegro)
Atletic d'Escaldes (Andorra)
Tre Penne (San Marino)

I'd say the Icelandic team is the most likely.
20/06/2023, 12:24 PM
joey B

Larne draw HJK Helsinki..
20/06/2023, 12:28 PM
Asterix

Breidablik beat Buducnost Podgorica last year, also knocked austria wien out the previous year.
20/06/2023, 12:41 PM
pineapple stu

Those games are next week it's worth noting - Tues/Fri. So won't be until Friday week that the exact team is confirmed
20/06/2023, 1:18 PM
pineapple stu

Dundalk v Bruno's Magpies (GIB)
Pat's v Dudelange (LUX)
Derry v HB Torshavn (FAR)

Worst possible draw for Pat's; other two should be big favourites though.
20/06/2023, 1:49 PM
ger121

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Dundalk v Bruno's Magpies (GIB)
Pat's v Dudelange (LUX)
Derry v HB Torshavn (FAR)

Worst possible draw for Pat's; other two should be big favourites though.

Dudelange not the side of 3-4 years ago. Really saw it against us in 2021.
20/06/2023, 1:55 PM
pineapple stu

Fair point - though the alternatives were Malta, Gibraltar, Andorra, the Faroes or North Macedonia, so I think it's still the worst draw out of that lot.

Which is definitely a relative thing!
20/06/2023, 1:56 PM
nigel-harps1954

There's a genuine chance of progression for all four teams here.
20/06/2023, 2:02 PM
Jd2793

faroes away is tougher than it sounds. theres been some decent scalps out there in the last few years. tricky one for a derry side that looks very ordinary in the league considering what was spent.
agree re- dudelange, that league has rapidly gone downhill. lots of players have left for better clubs aroudn europe. think pats will get through handy.
20/06/2023, 2:09 PM
Philosophizer

Very good draw all things considered.
Dundalk and Derry probably got the easiest draws they could get. Pats is also winnable.
The most dangerous opponents like Riga, Talinn, Hacken etc were all avoided
20/06/2023, 2:36 PM
Nesta99

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Dundalk v Bruno's Magpies (GIB)
Pat's v Dudelange (LUX)
Derry v HB Torshavn (FAR)

Worst possible draw for Pat's; other two should be big favourites though.

Thats a big 'should' for Dundalk. Its one of the easiest ever draws in Europe but not one I will take as a forgone conclusion. Form has been so sketchy it could also be up there with a worst ever LoI eclipsimg Shels loss to Hibs Malta or a couple of Cork and Rovers efforts!
20/06/2023, 2:43 PM
ger121

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Fair point - though the alternatives were Malta, Gibraltar, Andorra, the Faroes or North Macedonia, so I think it's still the worst draw out of that lot.

Which is definitely a relative thing!

Well in that context then I suppose it is. Better trip than some of the others from a logistic standpoint.
20/06/2023, 2:43 PM
Buller

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

Thats a big 'should' for Dundalk. Its one of the easiest ever draws in Europe but not one I will take as a forgone conclusion. Form has been so sketchy it could also be up there with a worst ever LoI eclipsimg Shels loss to Hibs Malta or a couple of Cork and Rovers efforts!

And Bohs infamous 4 nil defeat to The New Saints, lest we forget!
20/06/2023, 3:33 PM
ger121

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Originally Posted by Buller

And Bohs infamous 4 nil defeat to The New Saints, lest we forget!

Two words. Flora Tallinn. Every LOI side got a couple of them at least in the record books.
20/06/2023, 3:39 PM
ger121

With the preliminary tournament taking place in Iceland, you would fancy Breidablik to maybe win through.
20/06/2023, 3:43 PM
Nesta99

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Originally Posted by ger121

Two words. Flora Tallinn. Every LOI side got a couple of them at least in the record books.

Beg to differ on the 'every club' bit. Most clubs maybe - would be fun to rank the worst mind, starting with Longford v The Welsh Unknowns.

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