We were dreadful this evening. Badly set up and played exactly into Derrys hands with our slow play and constant backpassing which allowed Derry to press our defence and when the ball back in dangerous areas.
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We were dreadful this evening. Badly set up and played exactly into Derrys hands with our slow play and constant backpassing which allowed Derry to press our defence and when the ball back in dangerous areas.
Couldn't get up to sligo for the game so watched it on RTE. Hard to really tell from the TV but the pitch looked a bit of a leveller. Andy Lyons is really going from strength to strength in this Rovers team, and showing whats possible when you put him into a club demanding success.
Agree that Bradley should have made substitutions prior to sligo getting level - Rovers have never had that ruthless streak under Bradley, and to be fair to Derry they are showing why they are top of the league - A long, long way to go, of course, and the game in tallaght in a few weeks should be a belter.
Dundalk WALTZED pass Drogs tonight.Wardy was top class,Leahy was lethal,Drogs never got going and were awful.
Any Dundalk fan know what SO'D was carded for? I was at the match and didn't even know he was until i read tweet from James Rogers when the game had ended.
Whatever Clancy has against Ben McCormack he’d want to get over himself fast . The system he’s playing is not working and we need that extra body in midfield . Not one positive to take from that shambles of a performance
Considering Pats lost a very big chunk of their squad from last year, personnally from the outside, I don't quite get the expectations and dissapointment around Clancy.
Have they been that bad? Too negative? Some bad results alright, but to be fair, it looks like a new team.
I also find Sligo going very much under the radar. Probably the least talked about team this year, but they keep motoring away picking up points and are in a shout for Europe next year. There pitch seems disgraceful though.
I like Clancy and still think patience is deserved, from my perspective I just didn't really like the balance of the squad from the outset and it's been reflected in how all over the place the performances have been. Some real talent in there but we're short in key areas and injuries haven't helped matters. As long as we're still in the mix for 3rd come the summer time I wouldn't be hugely worried as with a couple injured players back/maybe a signing or two we'll look healthy enough. I expected us to be in the mix below Derry and Rovers though so maybe others anticipated more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
The lack of any kind of cohesive performances have been concerning though, no getting away from it. Don't think he intends to play negatively but the lack of a proper balanced midfield is just turning things that way because we've no control in games and Forrester can't do it on his own. Funnily enough the 0-0 vs Dundalk has probably been the best performance over 90 minutes in that sense, otherwise we've performed in fits and spurts at best.
Few more negative incidents around the league last night, a couple of minutes after going 3-0 up Derry fans shot a firework during the match which actually ended up exploding closest to their own goalkeeper Brian Maher who looked over and gestured to the Derry fans with his arms out as if to say ‘cop the f on’.
Just seeing on twitter also that RTE had to remove one of their camera operators after Sligo fans threw a flare at shams fans over the head of the camera man: https://twitter.com/jamesotoole18/st...PlIu2TGXei07yQ
I don’t think that we have played well in weeks. The Derry away game was our last proper performance that I’ve witnessed (I missed Dundalk at home so cant comment). The balance of the squad looks off and the tactics have been confusing at times. I’ve no doubt that he will get the entire season but I don’t see a grand plan and have huge concerns about the teams direction. Nobody wants to see the club go backwards and we need European football to keep things on the right road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
What, you mean like have him under a contract ? (Sorry to mention the war ;)) Nah, seriously though, he can still go and fluck himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth4sam
We were very good against Dundalk, and should have won with better finishing. UCD away was awful, Finn Harps at home was ok. Last night Derry just blitzed us out of it. They were faster, stronger and we couldn’t cope with it. Big response needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Harps and Shelbourne was a poor enough affair settled by a great strike from McNamee. We’re ravaged by injuries and N’Zeyi getting taken off on a stretcher hasn’t helped our plight.
A win is a win is a win. Finally getting a home win, a clean sheet, and all the while missing some very big players, it's a big positive to take from last night.
Injuries and suspensions taking their toll on an already very thin squad. Fingers crossed N'Zeyi won't be out for too long as he's been immense for us.
Good strike from McNamee and a perfectly good goal ruled out because Brendan Clarke told the referee it was handball. Hopefully we turn a corner and can go on a bit of a run from here.
Grim performance from a bad Shels team last night, Harps not up to much either. One of those games that deserved a 0-0 but if you don't score any goals that is what can happen to you at this level with a nice strike by McNamee
I like Duff and most of the fans have his back we know he is in a tough job that he did not need to take on. I can see the way he would like to play football but he knows by now the squad assembled by many heads at club is mostly poor, they have underestimated the standard of the Premier Division and thought assembling any full-time squad would cut it. Expectations now are he will be backed to add some decent players in the July transfer window to ensure avoiding a relegation play-off following the recent investment into the club
Something happened with Mannus as well but I didn't see what. Referee talked to both managers about it so I assume it's in the report.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
We need to collectively get a hold of the flare situation before they are completed eradicated and/or someone gets hurt. I'm a fan of them and it's something we have that other leagues don't..but it's getting out of control. Fireworks are a different story for me and anyone using them should be brought straight to the guards but controlled use of flares should be possible. There's some awful clowns following clubs.
Noticed Bray Wanderers/Cabinteely/Pat Devlin FC have only allowed selective replies on their twitter feed following their 7th game in a row without a win :)
Their highlights were literally somebody recording a laptop screen with, presumably a phone in their hand. Nightmarishly amateur looking.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
Hard to know with Mannus but looked like someone behind the goals said something to him as the linesman was inspecting the netsQuote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Flares need to just be 100% barred. They cause more hassle then they’re worth. Absolute dopes from our side last night if that Twitter message is true. Cops should just stand in that section in between the fans.
Thats amateur, our media lads do an amazing job in fairness to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
What's the opposite of the aphorism "A rising tide lifts all boats"?
A sinking tide sinks all ships, perhaps.
Whatever it is, its that bray/cabo/devlin mess. A stain on LOI.
Just seen the harps goal on instagram, cracking finish to win a game.
Great for us to see McNamee off the mark,our most important player…Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Some finish at the Markets Field last night.Treaty ,at the risk of repetition,duly did what they do ,eleven behind the ball in their own half waiting for the odd break,setpieces ,did the business with two Treaty type goals the first a brilliant finish by Dean George,Galway dominated most of the game huffed and puffed up top until Caulfield[his usual animated self] made 4 changes all at once and it must be said probably deserved all three points with the three goals all coming in final fifteen minutes,the first another cracker by Manning.Looked like a decent crowd and as usual when Treaty lose Tommy Bs interview to local radio was car crash stuff.
Something we actually agree on PC. That said Rovers havent really needed that ruthless streak winning the league the last few years, but missed it in Europe. I think this is the first league challenge that not having a ruthless streak will be a problem. Really the league should be decided in the most by the head to head games v Derry. It's being efficient and effective against all the sides outside the top two that really there shouldnt be points dropped sloppily. Derry could have their rough patch yet but so far the just are playing with that freedom and swagger you associate with champions. Rovers have the players to do the same but seem almost dull in comparison to how Derry are performing.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Yeah cos losing at home to shels is playing like champions.. 🙄
Im not even remotely worried about Rovers not being champions, just pointing out that Rovers have never really been flat track bullies under Bradley. We've managed to be successful nonetheless.
You are not worried about Rovers not being champions - thats a pity as all you'd have left is hating Dundalk and Bohs a bit PC. I think you have to acknowledge that a ruthless streak or being flat track bullies would be welcome addition to Bradley's side. It may not have been needed previously domestically but that wont always be the case. I'm not sure whether your air of 'meh' dismissiveness of this is arrogance, complacency, or simply not seeing that this season is the first real test of this Rovers league winning side's mettle and where going through the motions wont be enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Its strange when Ollie Horgan does similar he tends to get yellow or red cardsQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Great dummy by young Rudden just before it too, too a couple of the Shels back line out of the equationQuote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Have to say I am worried about not winning the league, how could I not be we are a third of the way through 3 points behind and already beaten by derry once....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I fully expect us to win it but I’m always worried until the league is won -Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I think I was a bit more worried last year when we were third going into July. This year after 13 games being 3 points behind first and 6 ahead of third picking up 16/18 points in April is pretty good to me.
I don’t think Rovers fans can afford to be so confident about winning the league this year. Not to say you won’t, but Derry are really going to put it up to you this year. They did a number on us on Friday, the like of which I haven’t seen in a long while. Now maybe we were just really bad on the night (which we were) but Derry were outstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
The new owner seems in thrall to Devo, but Devo ball isn't gonna bring them any progress, it's awful muck, and they need to get in someone progressive. They had Collie O'Neill in as a coach and he thru the towel in after less than a couple of months falling out with Devo. Bad and all as it was under ODriscoll, this doesn't represent progress on the pitch
It really was a surprising result on Friday Tony. Most would have expected a tight game with a goal in it one way or the other, but 4 nil at home was a statement victory certainly - I'm just not really convinced, at this moment in time, that derry will be able to sustain it. If there's a definitive result for either team in tallaght in a few weeks, similar to Fridays 4 nil victory, that would probably shape people's thinking about who is likely champions. Rovers dropping points away to sligo, on a pitch that suited neither team, is not going to be season defining, in my view anyway.
Everytime I try to edit a post on my phone I delete it. It's like my phone is policing me.
I'm not that surprised by Derry leading the way even if I predicted they'd finish second. They had a decent team last year that went on a great run after Higgins arrived. They ran out of steam of course but then went and added some of the best talent in the league. Add in the local pride buzz and you've got a great mix there. I thought they'd take longer to gel but Higgins has done a great job so far. I also underestimated McGonigle. Looks like the best striker in the league by a distance now and that would sometimes be enough to challenge even if you didn't have Fats, Patching and the rest behind him. Add in Duffy and it's a stellar lineup. Overall they signed really well. The local angle was one thing but getting some of the best players in the league, some with a point to prove after the Dundalk ship sank was obvious but effective business.
If we win it will be down to either squad depth or Jack getting back to his 2019 levels. Squad depth might do it alone but Derry may just stay fit. Europe will be interesting. If Derry go out they will have an advantage in the league. If we stay in it will remove.our squad depth advantage to a degree. There's not much at all between the two best 11s. Few on either side would walk into the other team.
Not exactly sure how many times you all have to be told there was no good football teams in Ireland until Derry this year and now there is one? Please listen and thanks in advance to those who do.
Of course this means since Stephen Kenny’s Dundalk. Obviously we remain well behind that level as the greatest Irish club side ever, but the statement is intended in the context of today.
You were really quiet while Derry lost to Shels at home.
Must have been busy, sorry. In the past now anyway let bygones be bygones.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Ah no. What margin to Derry need to win by to prove that there are no good teams?Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
Correction - as previously stated there is one good team and they were mentioned in your post. They don’t even have to win to prove that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
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