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21/07/2005, 8:06 PM
Plastic Paddy

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Originally Posted by sirhamish

Bloody cheek - I'm off them 3 weels on Saturday. :p

I'm still watching... :eek: ;) :D

Good man Hamish.

:ball: PP
21/07/2005, 8:13 PM
hamish

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

I'm still watching... :eek: ;) :D

Good man Hamish.

:ball: PP

I mentioned this about you on another post PP - I know you're watching me and my smoking or ex smoking - not paranoid or anything. LOL
Have had no cold turkey whatsoever - never deeply inhaled anyway - just shows you how addictive the bloody things are - I usually left most of the fag in the ashtray - what must it be like for those who inhale deeply??
22/07/2005, 11:33 AM
Macy

Off them 10 weeks tomorrow, after going to the Allan Carr Clinic. So far so good - only time seriously close was after Buckfast consumption last week and that passed suprisingly quickly!

Nicotine replacement therapy's don't work because you're still getting the nicotine. (and to answer my own question, the cigarette companies supply the manufacturer's of the patches etc).

The scary ads just make smokers want to have a smoke. I doubt their any influence on a 15 or 16 year old kid trying to be cool. Silk Cut have used scary ads to make people reach for their cigs - FACT.

There's no such thing as an occasional smoker/ weekend smoker etc. Ask anyone who claims to be able to leave, to leave them for good. If they don't need them, why bother? And every cig feeds you nicotine craving - "one last cigarette" is taking you further from getting over the addiction

I personally think a few sociable J's is different to a 20-25 a day smoker. Makes up far less of their routine.

Anto's right in the respect that it's out of your system in 5-7 days (usually - can be up to 30 though), but naive in the extreme to ignore the pschyological factors so flippantly....
22/07/2005, 11:46 AM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

A little knowledge truly is a dangerous thing. And completely wasted on you, it would seem. :rolleyes: :p

Come back with a doctoral certificate and I might, might just listen to you. I'm not holding my breath in waiting though...

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did you know its impossible to hold your breath untill you die
22/07/2005, 11:49 AM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by Macy

Off them 10 weeks tomorrow, after going to the Allan Carr Clinic. So far so good - only time seriously close was after Buckfast consumption last week and that passed suprisingly quickly!

Nicotine replacement therapy's don't work because you're still getting the nicotine. (and to answer my own question, the cigarette companies supply the manufacturer's of the patches etc).

The scary ads just make smokers want to have a smoke. I doubt their any influence on a 15 or 16 year old kid trying to be cool. Silk Cut have used scary ads to make people reach for their cigs - FACT.

There's no such thing as an occasional smoker/ weekend smoker etc. Ask anyone who claims to be able to leave, to leave them for good. If they don't need them, why bother? And every cig feeds you nicotine craving - "one last cigarette" is taking you further from getting over the addiction

I personally think a few sociable J's is different to a 20-25 a day smoker. Makes up far less of their routine.

Anto's right in the respect that it's out of your system in 5-7 days (usually - can be up to 30 though), but naive in the extreme to ignore the pschyological factors so flippantly....

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well done staying off them see it isnt as hard as this lot are making out .
22/07/2005, 12:05 PM
Plastic Paddy

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Originally Posted by anto1208

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well done staying off them see it isnt as hard as this lot are making out .

But he did what I did - Allen Carr's Easyway - and you accused me of having a crutch! Nor did I claim it was difficult to quit. I did it first time. You're chasing your own tail, me boyo...

Consistency, young Anto, is the key to winning any argument. And you just lost yours. :p

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22/07/2005, 12:12 PM
Macy

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Originally Posted by anto1208

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well done staying off them see it isnt as hard as this lot are making out .

Yeah - I mean it was only 2 years of trying before I booked into Allen Carr...
22/07/2005, 12:37 PM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

But he did what I did - Allen Carr's Easyway - and you accused me of having a crutch! Nor did I claim it was difficult to quit. I did it first time. You're chasing your own tail, me boyo...

Consistency, young Anto, is the key to winning any argument. And you just lost yours. :p

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and what does alan do ? he changes your way of thinking ! same as i suggested to do.
22/07/2005, 12:45 PM
Plastic Paddy

Let it go, sunshine, just let it go...

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22/07/2005, 1:44 PM
Dotsy

Nearly a week off them now :) . Read the Carr book yesterday. It certainly puts a quitting in a different perspective than other methods. I thought it was very good and feel alot more confident about stopping smoking after having read it. Next step is the course. Thanks for all the advise.
22/07/2005, 1:46 PM
Macy

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Originally Posted by Dotsy

Next step is the course. Thanks for all the advise.

Only go on the course if your smoking imo.
08/08/2005, 5:21 PM
anto1208

so how is it going now you still off them ???
09/08/2005, 3:26 PM
Dotsy

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Originally Posted by anto1208

so how is it going now you still off them ???

yep. Nearly a month now :)
09/08/2005, 3:44 PM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by Dotsy

yep. Nearly a month now :)

well fair play to you !! . was it really that hard ?? or are you wondering what the fuss was about
09/08/2005, 3:49 PM
Dotsy

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Originally Posted by anto1208

well fair play to you !! . was it really that hard ?? or are you wondering what the fuss was about

I am finding it easier this time around. I definitley think that the Allen Carr book was worth reading. I've tried many times before and found it hell. Early days yet but so far so good
09/08/2005, 4:26 PM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by Dotsy

I am finding it easier this time around. I definitley think that the Allen Carr book was worth reading. I've tried many times before and found it hell. Early days yet but so far so good

the worst is over now .
& bet your a lot better off both health wise and pocket wise !!! :D
09/08/2005, 4:44 PM
Plastic Paddy

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Originally Posted by Dotsy

I am finding it easier this time around. I definitley think that the Allen Carr book was worth reading. I've tried many times before and found it hell. Early days yet but so far so good

You've broken the shackles alright. Well done to you Dotsy. :D

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09/08/2005, 10:11 PM
davey

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Originally Posted by Macy

There's no such thing as an occasional smoker/ weekend smoker etc. Ask
I personally think a few sociable J's is different to a 20-25 a day smoker. Makes up far less of their routine.

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I don't want to put this topic into dodgy ground but the few sociable Js is is my problem concerning giving up smoking. Have given up the fags before, usually lasting between 2 and 7 weeks. However, even a couple of draws of a J (even rolled using herbal baccy) and I'm craving again. I know the answer is to give up both :( but I'm not sure I'm ready for that even though I'm desperate to give up the fags. I suppose my question is, are there any ex smokers (and I mean proper 20 a dayers) who have managed to successfully give up and still occasionally partake of the occasional jamaican woodbine?
10/08/2005, 5:33 AM
Plastic Paddy

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Originally Posted by davey

I suppose my question is, are there any ex smokers (and I mean proper 20 a dayers) who have managed to successfully give up and still occasionally partake of the occasional jamaican woodbine?

Oh yes indeed. I just lose the tobacco. :eek: :D Try a pipe - it may be easier.

:ball: PP
10/08/2005, 8:36 AM
Pat O' Banton

PP, believe it or not I am a trained stop smoking adviser (i.e the medical world allowed me to prescribe NRT, what sort of world are we living in when I am let lose with any sort of medical pad :eek: .) I tend to agree with you about NRT, particularly the inhalers which I used. They would keep you thinking about smoking all the time so rather then breaking the psychological addiction you are, in fact, keeping it going.
It is considered that NRT is better then cold turkey - 20% give up rate as opposed to 2% but both of these fall well sort of the 80/90% rate that you suggest Alan Carr + Hypnotherapy has, yet these types of methods are rarely mentioned in the Stop Smoking Advisor training. It does just seem like the pharmaceutical industry hitting upon another big money making scheme and gretting the NHS to ram it down people's throats.

I lasted three months with NRT but now have been back on them for four months.
10/08/2005, 10:09 AM
Dotsy

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Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton

PP, believe it or not I am a trained stop smoking adviser (i.e the medical world allowed me to prescribe NRT, what sort of world are we living in when I am let lose with any sort of medical pad :eek: .) I tend to agree with you about NRT, particularly the inhalers which I used. They would keep you thinking about smoking all the time so rather then breaking the psychological addiction you are, in fact, keeping it going.
It is considered that NRT is better then cold turkey - 20% give up rate as opposed to 2% but both of these fall well sort of the 80/90% rate that you suggest Alan Carr + Hypnotherapy has, yet these types of methods are rarely mentioned in the Stop Smoking Advisor training. It does just seem like the pharmaceutical industry hitting upon another big money making scheme and gretting the NHS to ram it down people's throats.

I lasted three months with NRT but now have been back on them for four months.

In the past when I have used NRT I found that when I stopped using it I went straight back to craving cigs as bad as ever. Now I know it was a craving for nicotine not cigs and that NRT had not weaned me off it. It only replaced one form of getting my fix with another.
10/08/2005, 12:26 PM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by davey

I don't want to put this topic into dodgy ground but the few sociable Js is is my problem concerning giving up smoking. Have given up the fags before, usually lasting between 2 and 7 weeks. However, even a couple of draws of a J (even rolled using herbal baccy) and I'm craving again. I know the answer is to give up both :( but I'm not sure I'm ready for that even though I'm desperate to give up the fags. I suppose my question is, are there any ex smokers (and I mean proper 20 a dayers) who have managed to successfully give up and still occasionally partake of the occasional jamaican woodbine?

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of coarse but if you are smoking hash you should stop its crap if you saw what went into it to make the base, get some weed , weed should nt be smoked in j's but in pipes or bongs this also while making it twice as strong cuts out the tabacco alltogether .
10/08/2005, 1:09 PM
rebs23

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Originally Posted by Dotsy

Not for the first time I am attempting to kick the habit. I've been off them for 3 days now but I am really suffering. I have used the patches before but found that once I stopped using them I went back on the smokes. This time I'm trying it cold turkey. If anybody has any tips or advise on how to keep off them it would be much appreciated.

Off them now for over 11 months. This is my third time in 17 years giving them up and so far this is the longest. I went to a hypnotist and it worked. Really good. It certainly wasn't as painful as going cold turkey and it seems to work on a lot of people. Best of luck it will be worth it in the pocket, your outlook on life (all the positive vibes for doing something good for yourself) and of course your health. Literally no more wheezing running for that bus.

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