congrats to Bohs for the win. lets hope you can carry it on and finish the job off over there without any trouble on or off the pitch.
good luck for the 2nd leg guys!!!!
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congrats to Bohs for the win. lets hope you can carry it on and finish the job off over there without any trouble on or off the pitch.
good luck for the 2nd leg guys!!!!
That won't be a problem. We're not playing Rovers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Daz
that was low.. but funny :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
Great result - all the better that it was possibly even expected! Would have preferred Bohs to get the second obviously - Gent are a decent side, and next week will be tough, as Pat's found out the last time...
Who do Bohs/Gent face in the second round?
Edit - JC's posted details here Grodno (Belarus) or Zlin (Czech Republic), with Zlin in the driving seat.
Very enjoyable game, entertaining. Dominic Foley was very acurate at picking out passes with his head from throw-ins. Most fans well behaved but I'm pretty sure that 1 or 2 of those till-rolls thrown were aimed at Gent players. Bohs by far the better team but may pay for not being clinical with their chances when they go to Belgium next week, but I hope Bohs make it ;) .
P.S. : Superfrank, RTE match report said that Grant's header was deflected (told ya so) ;) , if only I had a more reliable source :eek: .
BBC Sport and Eleven-a-side said it was deflected too. You had the better seat! :mad:
Atmosphere wasn't great, but then it wasn't a "big" game in the sense of a bit of spice and a decent body of away fans to have banter with. Everyone's so nervous on European nights, and more genuinely interested in the ups and downs on the pitch, against a strange team, none of whose players you've ever heard of; more so than a normal league game, where you'd spend more time abusing the other fans etc.
Agreed re Ward. Thought he had a great game. Very impressed with Ken Oman. Big strong centre half and a skillful one at that. Ward was impressive constantly showing for the ball and good running.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Thing I noticed about the Bohs team was how young they seem, especially the back four. 4 players who seem capable of defending and playing football in equal measures.
Joxer was poor. Played too deep in the first half. There were times in the first half when the full-back(Rice I think) got the ball midway through his own half and J.P.Kelly was maybe ten yds ahead. Seemed as if he was instructed to play deep. Fergal Harkin should have been brought on earlier.
Bohs could do with a decent centre forward. Foley although offered a lot was poor overall. Someone should point out the laws of football and explain the offside rule on a blackboard.
Crowd was poor I thought.
congrats to bohs great win . they will have to score out there one feels to get through. best of luck.
I just rang a mathmatician and it appears that we don't actually need to score over there to go through.Quote:
Originally Posted by balls
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Originally Posted by ifk101
Don't think so. LOI us one of the worst leagues in europe and the quality of football is nothing short of shocking. Would be suprised if Bohemians go through
Considering eL sides have gone past the 1st round in last 3-4 seasons history would suggest Bohs would go through.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
:rolleyes: When you haven't a clue what you're talking about, its usually a good idea to keep your mouth shut :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
Does anyone know where we can view UEFA's rankings of the European leagues? Does it stand up to rational any better than the FIFA rankings?
If Cabo believes the league is 'shocking' why he register with a forum and post over 40 times?
Don't worry bout cabo lads. This is a common misconception by Italians that the eircom League isn't any good. Many of them I've met, I used to work in an Italian restaurant, think they could take to the field and do much better than any other eL star.
This site is excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by el punter
Good man Stu, that Dutch site is top quality. Although it doesn't do a lot to counter Cabo's argument that this is one of the worst leagues in Europe (40th of 52 in last seasons rankings).
I don't accept that the standard is shocking though; the media coverage is shocking. The lack of support for the league in a football loving country is shocking. The behaviour of some individuals and groups associated with the league is shocking.....but the football's not bad.
Not to start an argument, this is genuine interest. Cabo, what games have you been to or watched on tv that you thought were shocking? You must accept that some games are damn exciting?
I'm seldom one to pat Rovers on the back for anything, but the McCourt display a few weeks ago was enough to make any football fan tingle, and again at the weekend they put a lovely move together to score on Shels. Shocking footballers don't do those things.
I used to be a Cabo.Quote:
Originally Posted by el punter
For most of my life, I believed the 'gulf in class' guff. Then, quite by accident, I learned the error of my ways. I was playing in a 7-a-side knockabout, and someone who I had never heard of (how would I?), and whose name I still don't know, turned up.
He wasn't a big star or anything. He was recovering from serious injury and was totally unfit, but he made a show of everyone. Not just me: that wouldn't be hard. He hardly moved, but, spreading it from the back, he had every one of us, including one or two who I thought previously had a bit of talent, running around in frantic circles.
That's when the penny started to drop. Since then, whenever I hear some barstooler talk about EL being a bunch of disorganized hoofers (as opposed to us calling Shels a bunch of disorganized hoofers!) I wonder how they would fare against an unfit, anonymous EL player hobbling gingerly onto the astro.
Yeah, I've got some similar anecdotal testimony Boh. I played ball for my older brother's team for a while, you can imagine the scene on a Sunday morning, 15 mins before kick off and there's 9 players showed up, so I'm quickly 'signed up' as I'm 16 and could probably hold me own against lads in their mid 30's! Yeah right!
Anyway my brother was a decent enough player, Leinster Senior League for a while. But there was a lad on the team who was mustard. Give him the ball, we scored. I was amazed at how he ran rings around the opposition. So afterwards I was talking to the brother and asked if the guy had ever played League of Ireland or anything. He laughed and shook his head, he said that guy was easily an excellent footballer, but my bro' had played a little with Pat Kelch (ex Pats full back) and one or two other LOI players and said they were just different class altogether.
They are big, and fit and physical and generally dont do stupid things with the ball. Being very good isnt enough. The Eircom League is football at a very high level - despite the historical litany of European failures of our clubs.
Who was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
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Originally Posted by el punter
Ive actually been to quite a few, mostly Bray Wanderers one's and have seen a bit of Shelbourne this season.
I think that the support is terrible,the stadiums are poor and the football is dreadful to watch. 9 times out of ten all that they do is hit long balls. For Shelbourne being a good side in Ireland, how many times have they got to the group stage of the european cup? Any irish team?
The closest they came was being destroyed by an average at best Deportivo side.
I think it's mostly because of the facilities in the country and not enough has been done. Im afraid there won't be an irish team in the champions league for a long long time.
As for this Bohemians, ok maybe they will go through but to think they will get anywhere decent in the uefa cup is very wishful thinking. Very bad team.
Well whether or not I agree with you about Bohs being a bad team is irrelevant.
However, how good a team is has nothing to do with whether or not you should support them.
By the way, how many times have Aston Villa, Birminghmam, Bolton, Charlton, Everton, Fulham, Manchester City, Middlesborough, Portsmouth, Sunderland, Tottenham, West Brom, West Ham or Wigan qualified for the Champions League group stages?
Who gives a damn?
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Originally Posted by ThatGuy
Im talking about the standard of the league. Irish champions=SHELBOURNE, Didnt qualify for the european cup.
English champions=CHELSEA,Semi-finalists.and a team who came 5th in the league won it.
So you really have not helped your case.
And who said anything about supporting teams?
I think his case was that the majority of the Premierships teams haven't ever qualified for the Champions League. So he actually did help his case.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
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Originally Posted by dancinpants
And that's because the league is too strong for them.
And Shelbourne are nowhere near those teams
I wouldn't say that its because the LEAGUE is too strong for them, but more Chelsea, Arsenal, and ManUtd are too strong for them. Take those 3 teams out of the EPL and you have a very ordinary league by European standards. (I'm leaving Liverpool out because they are a very ordinary team that was lucky enough to get the breaks and win the CL - certainly a one off.)Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
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Originally Posted by dancinpants
But all the teams in the league are alot better than any irish team. Alot better.
And i disagree with what you said about Liverpool. They won the european cup,no luck involved. Destroyed Leverkusen,battered Juveentus at home and were brilliant in the 2nd leg,superb to stop Chelsea to score in 180 minutes and were the better team and came back from 3-0 down to beat Milan. So to win that competition makes them the best in europe. Chelsea won the league so their the best in england but Liverpool are the best in europe.
Anyway didn't Shelbourne lose to Hibs of Malta a few years ago?
I didn't say they weren't...but in terms of European competition, they are definitely beatable.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
I'm sorry but going by your rationale Chelsea CAN'T be the best team in England as long as Liverpool are the best in EuropeQuote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
Yes. Chelsea lost to israeli opposition a few years ago too. Whats your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
Why not? Chelsea are the best in one competition, Liverpool in another?
israeli opposition and maltese opposition. Not the same class really
Go back home to engeland and get off this forum, its people like you who help ruin the league of ireland's reputation which should be better... If people like you supported your domestic league, make no mistake, it would be up there with the best in europe... just look at our International teams success...Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
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Originally Posted by ThatGuy
Actually this is how, the english teams came up :)
WUM Alert !!
They all have nothing to do now that there season of watching footall in a bar in a Sunday afternoon is over.
Irish Club Results in Europe
This is savage interestin'. There's some great results from the past in here....some awful ones too.
Well they would be playing here if it wasnt for barstoolers like yourself, dumbass...Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
I got excel to calculate the average points per game. Here are the top 5 clubs:Quote:
Originally Posted by dancinpants
1. Athlone Town - 0.75 pts per game (Athlone get no.1 slot because they've played more games)
2. UCD - 0.75
3. Cork City - 0.64
4. Shamrock Rovers - 0.58
5. Bohemians - 0.54
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I'd give Cabo a wide berth on this one, lads - only a knob would attempt to compare England (pop. 50 million, everyone loves football) and the Republic of Ireland (pop. 4 million, football has two or three serious rivals).
Cabo suddenly woke up and found that it was the summer time, that he didn't, in fact, live in Bethnal Green. He saw that there was football on show, but not wishing his loyalty to the Premiership Gods be challenged, he tries to reassure himself with myths that the Eircom League is substandard to 'The Real Thing' and that the stadiums couldn't be used in an Albanian horror film, and that a football fan can say that he has achieved something when he still finds the courage to support Man United even after a trophee-less season! :rolleyes:
MODERATOR WARNING This thread is getting out of control. Any more personal attacks & i'll close it.
Chelsea have also lost to Swiss opposition before. And if you are one to believe Sweden and the Netherlands are better leagues, Cork proved you wrong. Bohs did the same against Kaiserslautern and Aberdeen, both from "stronger" leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabo2005
In fact Germany must be a better league cos they get three CL places and we only get one.
Cabo, it's funny what you choose to ignore, isn't it?
Must frame that. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by crc
Mods, seriously, would yez keep him off the thread? He's p!ssing everyone else off and he's just insulting our league.