"Quite Humerous "? Nice use of understatement there Luke. Friggin Hilarious I would have said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke O'Riordan
P.S "Ollie Byrne is a football hooligan" classic chant.
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"Quite Humerous "? Nice use of understatement there Luke. Friggin Hilarious I would have said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke O'Riordan
P.S "Ollie Byrne is a football hooligan" classic chant.
Exactly, every time we're in Tolka a load of kids run on to the pitch after the game and quite often they throw stuff in the direction of the Rebel Army. The stewards just stand by and watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by patsh
I think the fine thing was probably just made up by Brian Lennox (who's not exactly known for telling the truth) in order to make people think they'd be hurting the club by going on the pitch. In fairness, it has worked because it doesn't even cross City fans minds to run onto the pitch anymore.
Yeah, he's the head of these goons. I think his name is Derek(?), he's a big fella with a beard and does security at Ireland games too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
There was a City player saying that down in the Rochestown Park last night alright. Don't known if there's an element of truth there or not but no smoke without fire I suppose!Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
I don't think even Rovers fans are that stupid or brave!Quote:
Originally Posted by higgins
I find this whole thing laughable. Fair play to the Rovers fans, it seems to me like they just celebrated their victory and rubbed it in a bit to the Shels fans but the Shels fans acted like sore losers (like everyone at their "club seems to do) and reacted badly to it.
As for Ollie Byrne, he does this kind of thing on a regular basis now. Sure about two years ago he tried to start a fight with a few City fans in the Tolka park bar. He's an absolute knacker who can't handle when things are not going right for him and decides to take it out on everyone else through physical violence.
Sly, Colm :cool: :) It has worked though. Only one in recent memory for me, against Dublin City ages ago. The guy in his boxers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colm
He is a joker. He'd want to get his own house in order prior to slagging off Rovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colm
The worst streaker in the world ever! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jofyisgod
When we were in Tolka earlier this season, a number off wee $h€l$ fans were firing stuff at us and attempted to tear a few of our flags and there wasn't a steward in sight :rolleyes:
from soccernet.com
"UEFA are to bring in a new code of ethics in September making clear that 'unacceptable behaviour by players or coaches, by word or action, will be subject to strong sanctions'.
UEFA will also instruct national associations what behaviour levels are acceptable from coaches, players and fans and to issue instructions to referees not to tolerate dissent."
I feel a few emails to UEFA will be in the pipeline ;)
Experienced Rovers scum fans again last night, was in town with a few pals and as we walked down dame st on the way home about 5 rovers idiots were picking fights whilst singin we ****in hate Bohs. I'd been out celebrating Bohs beating Gent and had my jersey and scarf on and the shower of idiots started trying to pick a fight with myself and about 12 other friends. We just told them to **** off and headed on home.
If these are the fans that Rovers are attracting at the moment then the club is in more trouble than I thought, these idiots weren't soccer fans they were scum, absolute scum.
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Originally Posted by Slash/ED
youre behaving like a hysterical girl. yes there was a couple of bottles thrown, but some came from the new stand too. there were no punches thrown, dont know where on earth you came out with that, Rovers fans ran onto the pitch celebrating in front of the new stand.there were NO shels fans on the pitch, and NO rovers fan got into the crowd.it would have been a physical impossibilty for a punch to be thrown.Rovers fans taunted shels fans and that was that.
olly byrne cannot call anyone scum. the fat pig attacked Roddy before the game. oily attacking an amateur boxer who is also the brother of a former boxing world champion-this just proves how thick stupid and mentally unstable oily is. how on earth could he expect to start a fight with a boxer and expect to win??oily got 3 stitches to his head.hes lucky he didnt have to go to hospital for serious treatment.
i think Roddy is right in his assessment of oily, that hes cracking under pressure and its taking a toll on his health.Roddy even feels sorry for this fool. oily is a prime candidate for a heart attack if ever there was one!
the biggest scumbag in the league is OILY BYRNE and while he's running your club you have no right to attack any other supporters for their behavior. OLLY BYRNE IRELANDS NUMBER ONE HOOLIGAN
hes quite clearly a pats fan, theyre hardly the most sympathetic bunch towards Rovers are they ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jagman
docs neatral pov was an accurate and fair assessment. now stop whinging like girls just because shels are freefalling down the table..and into huge debt.
olly byrne is a football hooligan!
[QUOTE=Colm]
I think the fine thing was probably just made up by Brian Lennox (who's not exactly known for telling the truth)
ffs i allways found him honest ( as far as club chairmen go ).
Thats a low comment. I would suspect there is a rule but that the fine almost never imposed. Brian Lennox said he had 3 year play to win the league all signs are good. Said last year would get to 1/4 final of Inter Toto Cup & we did. As long as that record continues & he keeps funding City what more can we expect...Quote:
Originally Posted by Colm
[QUOTE=Slash/ED]Well done the Rovers fans tonight, proved Ollie wrong about you being scum :rolleyes:
Never a true word spoken!! Not a simple thing done to stop the pitch invasion about 3 stewards on the whole stand. In fairness bottles thrown in both directions but no doubt how it all started!!
saw digs thrown to and almost one at their own roddy collins as he tried to get them back!!!
not saying this about all their fans but the selected few should learn to f3cking cop on!!
At least you recognise one of your ownQuote:
Originally Posted by anto eile
Pretty sly Colm, sneaking that in. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Colm
I guess you think that constant repetition will makes it true.
Well, it doesn't.
Would it not been easier for these blood thirsty hooligans to just go around the side of the riverside and into the new stand, seen as people say there where f all stewards and the garda done nothing. Why bother hop 2 fences to get at someone when all you had to do was talk a short walk around to the riverside. PS How many Shels fans where hurt in the ground ?
Chill out ffs, it was only a throw away remark to try and outline the point I was making. As usual though, the same people jump down the throat of anyone who doesn't bow to saint Brian. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
I'm only speaking from my own personal experience and dealings and I firmly believe that I'm 100% correct in that comment. None of you can prove me wrong because I have witnessed a number of incidents of blatent lying to mine and other City fans faces. If people don't like that there's not much I can do about it and it's a bit unfair to dismiss me like that when you haven't had dealings with the man or witnessed any of these incidents.
Ok, I'll shut up now as it's pointless.
I'll try and put things as simply as possible here.
1. While all clubs have their share of troublemakers, Rovers seem to have a significantly higher proportion than anyone else, and the club should identify and try and rectify this problem.
2.Ollie Byrne has done a lot of good things for Shelbourne FC, but some of his actions in recent years have been totally and utterly unacceptable. He should do the honourable thing and resign before he completely loses the respect of the Shelbourne fans, who for obvious reasons, are the only set of fans willing to recognise the good work he has done. As things stand at the moment though, his attitude is poisonous to the growth of the club.
Any Shels, Rovers or indeed fans from any EL clubs want to dispute either of these points? Because it seems people are running around in circles here, when I reckon that if everybody looks at things rationally they will come to the same conclusions.
Well Done to the Owl. A fair response. A number of clubs have problems with fans, our biggest is not having enough. Rovers have had the worst section of fans, While also having some of the most loyal, well behaved and long suffering. There is a need for the club to sort these idiots out.
Ollie is a thug, short and simple. I know for some Shells fans he has done a lot of good for the club. But his continuous contempt for the game and for other clubs, officials and fans has no place in any professional game,.Its time for him to go or if he wont, its time for VERY heavy sanction by the league.
Its bad enough to have to get use to losing every week but I am sick to the teeth of having to trawl through mountains of posts on the interweb that rarely even go within a mile of the actual game. The Owl got it spot on there. I think that at the moment Shelbourne Football Club need to relax a bit and stop picking fights with every team in the league. Our clear lack of dealing with issues normally is only giving supporters who are bang out of order something to hid behind.
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Originally Posted by joeraki
The stands were segregated by fences, which the Gardai and stewards obviously thought that was good enough, not think about the pitch as a route!!!
Everytime some streaker or fool runs on the pitch duringa International match ,the FAI are fined €50,000 by UEFA. thats why stewards sit on stools facing the crowd (well,supposed to anyway)
Same deal for each league and organisation.Fines obviously aren't the same magnitude but they are the rules.
The last city shels game , the 2-0 , there was at least 8-10 youngfellas ran to the city fans at the end to give the fingr ...these type of incidents can inflame things and are meant to be prevented .Having some fella mention it over the half wqorking pa system isn't enough.There are more stewards at Tolka entrusted with keeping an eye on away fans than there are keeping the home fans (an oiley) off the pitch
Young lads are always running onto the pitch. They tend to be little *******s who think its great. To stop them your need the entire pitch surrounded by stewards. If you want to get on the pitch, be it Tolka, Turners Cross or Croke Park, you will. Until we introduce snipers.
As for pitch invasions :), a few young fellows compared to the entire Rovers support is a little in the way of a slightly poor comparsion. :) But I am not even going there cos I am too disappointed to have lost to give a toss about Rovers support.
Anyways for **** sake lads, I know its rich coming from a Shels supporter but I'm mad for a little discussion on the games and the actual 90 minutes action for a bit rather than "you fans pointed angrily at us" bull**** talk. :)
Not true. Those kids do it cos the other kids are doing it. The fact is you never even attempt to stop them so they probably don't even know its not allowed. Why are there no pitch invasions at Turners Cross or Dalymount? Do they have hundreds of stewards?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
I suggest that you should try take in a few Shels aways (its the summer holidays soon :D ) and you can see that thats does NOT happen at other grounds .The only ground that this noticeably happens at is Tolka .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
And its not just a few either. As for the objects being thrown .Didn't the same happen when Dolan was going into the Lego stand last season .......both games
As for football discussion,how can we chat about football ,unless you were at the carlisle on friday to watch some ;)
I have real sympathy for the genuine Rovers fans.
A dark cloud has been following you for a few years now.
I wouldn't wish your situation on anyone.
You must accept though, how the rest of the league has had enough of the continuous controversy and disorder which surrounds elements of your club.
I really don't know what the best solution here is.
The easy option would be to expel you but it would be naive to think that your most troublesome "supporters" would no longer pose a threat to the rest of the league.
I'm a bit old for the awl summer holidays you speak of and I have been in nearly all the league grounds. Are you in Tolka every week thou? As for where this is leading me, I am not going to defend stewards. Throwing of objects is not exclusive to tolka!!! Nor is people coming onto the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgav
i have met a lot of genuine rovers fans and but there is that chav/scumbag element at the club but what id like to know is what are they doing to root out that element ? anyone know?
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Originally Posted by Gareth
The inserted smiley should've pointed to my comment being lighthearted .
I never said it was exclusive to shels but I felt your initial reply was a bit too bláse.
I go to Tolka often enough,not only for City games ,seeing as I live in swords ,I usually tag along to some of the Dublin derbies and by far the worst offender is shels (re people on the pitch) , every game I go to at Tolka it happens.
Whats happening at shels tho?? Oiley acting the thug ,players not getting on ,bouncing cheques....seems alot happening off the field affecting on the field
Can't believe there was fenlon out chants after the game
There was only one hooligan in Tolka Park on Friday - Olly Byrne. The man is a disgrace and should be thrown out of football.
As for the scenes afterwards, yes a load of Rovers kids got on the pitch - which they shouldn't have done - but it was purely to celebrate a massive win for us. The bottle throwing was started by the Shels fans in the new stand.
These are the facts - you can throw all the mud you want at Rovers but it's Shelbourne and their pathetic Chief Executive and juvenile fans who need to take a long, hard look at themselves.
KOH
I wasn't at the game, so can't really comment, but you seem to imply that Rovers don't need to take a long hard look at themselves. You are spot on about Ollie, and indeed correct if the throwing did start from the New Stand, but let that not detract from the fact that Rovers need to address their scumbag problem quite severely.
Obviously wasnt at the game, and didn't see it on TV, but from speaking to fans of both clubs, would tend towards the view that it was just exhuberance on the part of the Rovers fans. After beating Shels 2-1, it just doesn't really add up that Rovers would take a couple hundred people onto the pitch looking for some serious aggro. Taunting, yes, but so what? We all have to take some taunting at some stage. After Bobby Ryan scored for us to win the league at Tolka, we went onto the pitch, and as that's where (Subbuteo Stand) the tunnel is, truth be told there was taunting and plastic bottles were exchanged (but started by Shels fans, as if it makes any difference). Bottom line is no-one gets hurt, and no-one should get their noses out of joint, except the usual frothing at the mouth moral brigade.
I've never sat in the new stand. If the people in that stand were throwing bottles at people, well then they are ****ing idiots. Personally I sit in a part of the main stand that is pretty much the same crowd for years and they are older. Never seen a days trouble were I am. To be honest trouble was never even an aspect of the game until recent life in the eircom League.....
How long are you supporting the league? There are Bohs / Rovers fans who could tell stories about bother in the 70s, 80s and 90s. And not just involving Dublin teams either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
I am supporting Shelbourne 15 or 16 years. In the time I have been supporting trouble was a rare thing at games for me, now i wouldn't be going to bohs vs rovers etc, but shels games. I would have sat happily with opposition fans and never once crossed my mind to worry about them. Just my experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
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Originally Posted by anto eile
why would i be whinging because shels are freefalling?
There stewarding situation at Tolka is by a distance the worst in the league. There are kids on the pitch after nearly every match whereas it's rare to see anyone going on the pitch anywhere else. Bohs have an orange netting that they put around the edge of the pitch to keep people from climbing on. Why can't Shels do the same?
It's a point that's been made by the fans probably a million times by now and nothing is ever done and unfortunately that probably wont change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
It is very difficult to argue with that. His actions before the game were pathetic, absolutley pathetic, and it's given the Rovers fans something to hide behind as they as ever ignore/play down and flat out deny the actions of their own fans.Quote:
Ollie Byrne has done a lot of good things for Shelbourne FC, but some of his actions in recent years have been totally and utterly unacceptable. He should do the honourable thing and resign before he completely loses the respect of the Shelbourne fans, who for obvious reasons, are the only set of fans willing to recognise the good work he has done. As things stand at the moment though, his attitude is poisonous to the growth of the club.
At this stage, as you said, he could fast become detrimental to the growth of the club.
As more of a lurker than a poster on this forum i am sick,sore and tired of trouble being reported at a Rovers game and the same few Rover's fans coming on and blaming the opposition fans. Almost every ground in the country has seen the scum element in your support yet you choose to blame garda/stewards/other fans e.t.c. Get a grip and for the good of the league and the future of your club admit you have a problem and get rid of these scummy hoods.
and thats what happened, rather than a hooligan army bent on mayhem, gareths take on it is accurateQuote:
Originally Posted by Gareth
my post was maybe a bit unclear,it was directed at shels fans, as for you saying that dr nightdubs point of view was biased,i disagree.hes a pats fan,he im sure dislkikes both Rovers ,shelbourne and gypos.so is unlikely to be biased towards Rovers, (or any other club)Quote:
Originally Posted by jagman