I presume that one is straightforward enough. Noss is essentially German so probably has more freedom to come and go. It would be strange for Rose to declare for us and then get cold feet that soon afterwards.
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I presume that one is straightforward enough. Noss is essentially German so probably has more freedom to come and go. It would be strange for Rose to declare for us and then get cold feet that soon afterwards.
Its becoming Carry-On Comedy Stuff at this stage. International football is becoming a joke especially for the smaller countries !
Based in different regions too, different rules for travelQuote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Yep. Basically, Germans are allowed to repatriate but foreigners aren’t allowed to enter the country from what are deemed high risk areas like UK and Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Different federal states have different rules regarding lockdown but afaik this is a national law.
Both in north Rhine west-phalia (spelling?) I’d thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Live stream of the game on Wales' YouTube channel here
Thought McGuinness was probably man of the match. His father is from Derry and he's very much in the Shane Duffy win everything in the air mould. Difficult conditions to play football and a bit fortunate to win but were comfortably the better side in the second half. Good for Afolabi to get a goal.
Thought the midfield of Watson, Connell and Noss were pretty good. Maher was impressive in goal, just his presence and command of his area. Wingers didn't really get involved and were a bit disappointing. Meanwhile, Tyriek Wright coming off the bench seems to have gained a yard of pace - definitely positions open there, along with left back. Was disappointing not to see Shane Flynn involved at some point.
Considering you've also got the following lads eligible: Bazunu, Rose, Collins, Coventry, Knight Hodge, Smallbone, Finn, Connolly, Idah, Parrott, Obafemi - it's certainly still a very decent squad going forward...
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Originally Posted by elatedscum
Would agree with a lot of the above, apart from saying McGuinness is similar to Duffy, he is tall, great in the air, but also very good on the ball, he is on loan at Ipswich and doing good by all accounts.
Goals are at 1:52:00. Second goal follows on immediately from the equaliser. Looks like the Welsh defender curled the ball around his keeper with a backpass. Pretty impressive actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I was told years ago to always aim a pass to your goalkeeper wide of the goals, for pretty much this reason.
Yeah you're always to taught to make your backpasses off-target so even if the keeper ballses it up, it's only ever a corner. Very funny error!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Impressive win today. Thought Noss was very good, wouldn't be against getting him involved for the Qatar game if possible.
Just watched the goals there. Tyreik Wright looks like he has grown a foot.
A foot high, and a foot wide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Agreed - himself, Watson and Connell really turned the screw in the 2nd half, while he did a lot of good work in the first half to actually make sure that we saw some of the ball when it came back to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColourfulPeanut
He did look really good on the ball, didn't he? Himself and Omobamidele were very happy to knock it wide or central.Quote:
Originally Posted by gally
Wouldn't disagree totally, for a change, Will Ferry set the tone early in the second half by attacking them from wide. I though Afolabi was poor in the second half to be honest, but the goal was definitely a positive for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
I probably would have given motm to Watson. He certainly gets around the pitch and absolutely demands the ball. He balled O'Malley out of it early in the 2nd half for playing back to Omobamidele instead of inside to him, and then reversed the balling to Omaba when the same thing happened 10 secs later. You can see why Derby have him playing first team ball. Agree re Maher - very composed.
Yeah, but once he didn't make a few changes at half-time, he looked like he was treating it like a qualifier almost, which is probably not a bad thing considering 7 starting debuts there.Quote:
Was disappointing not to see Shane Flynn involved at some point.
Special shout out to Lee O'Connor - 62nd underage cap for Ireland. Outstanding achievement.
Thanks for the link Tets, watched the whole lot, enjoyable in the main.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
We need to temper our enthusiasm Mr. Nut. Be less colourful, more dull.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColourfulPeanut
Conditions looked awful today, with the wind really affecting passes of any significant distance. I was a touch worried in the first half as we didn't seem to be coping too well, but then in the second half we really stepped up, and they didn't cope anywhere near as well as we did.
Was Omaba impressive overall, Kingdom? Have been really impressed with him every time I have seen him at 17s and 19s level. He's 18, a centre half and making the Norwich bench. I have high hopes for him.
I know it's harder to spell than Bazunu, and I'm not even going to attempt to pronounce it, but could you look up the spelling before posting?
It's Omobamidele
Ridiculous behaviour. Apologies on our behalf.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Someone hadn't impressed that one sufficiently onto Shay Given, as evidenced in the comedy of errors from the fabled 2001 WC qual v Holland, re the backpass from Stan.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Hard to say, because McGuinness beside him definitely shone. What I'd say was in the first half they targetted the channell between him and O'Malley, but that was more down to meteorology than scouting I reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Second half he was very good, and made one excellent goal-saving tackle, and made one very strategic foul as they broke when one up. Not sure if it was his man or O'Malley's, but the forward from his side missed an absolute sitter just before we equalised.
Fwiw I probably wasn’t that clear in what I said but I didn’t really mean to compare anything more than his aerial ability. I initially wrote something more general comparing them based on the aerial ability, size and the uncompromising tackles, but I edited myself before posting, cause I thought to myself, he’s probably a better footballer than Duffy. Saying that, as he moves up the levels, the first touch will probably look a little heavier than it does now and his pace on the turn will probably start to look a weakness... Very good young player though. Pretty sure if you look through the archives, you can find me praising him strongly on his debut for the 19s in Russia a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by gally
I don’t think we really disagree that much. Different sides of the same coin perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Thought Omobamidele came out of the game with a lot of credit. He’s young for the level and although he didn’t have the game McGuinness had, he had 3 or 4 moments when he was tested and he very much passed those tests...Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Good to get the win, I'm not sure any of our players actually touched the ball between us scoring our first goal and scoring our second, which I don't think I've ever seen before in a game.
Obviously a lot of players missing but at the same time quite a few of them - the likes of Parrott, Idah, Knight, Connolly - possibly won't play at this level again. Others like Collins and Bazunu might come back in for a short while but longer term they will be with the seniors also.
So it will be mostly these lads, plus possibly Rose, Coventry, Hodge, Smallbone, Finn, Kayode and Obafemi for the campaign. And Odubeko if he wants to play.
The lack of depth among the older players in the senior squad is going to hamper this group's qualification chances I think - especially with Kenny clearly keen to give youth a chance at senior level. But that should at least mean opportunities for other lads to come in and play games, even if our qualification hopes will take. a hit as a result.
Not sure where best to post this as the thread for the Euro 2021 qualifiers has been archived but I noticed that Iceland, who beat us to qualification for the finals, performed very poorly at the finals tournament - 3 games, 3 losses, 1 goal scored but in a 4-1 defeat.
I don't know the details but, as a small nation with a small pick, they may well have lost quite a few players to the senior squad for the tournament. Given how many under 21 players we had with the seniors, as well as a few more out injured, it's probably safe to say we would have struggled badly at the finals had we qualified.
Under 21 really is a difficult age group for the smaller nations. It was a bit galling to hear Aidy Boothroyd describing the English Under 21 job as "impossible", given their depth of resources relative to most other countries. England were also knocked out in the group stages today.
Edit - just thinking about it again, we might have been down as many as 18 players who would have been eligible and likely to be selected for the finals tournament - Kelleher, Travers, Bazunu, O'Shea, Masterson, Collins, Knight, Molumby, Coventry, Taylor, Hodge, Smallbone, Patrick, Obafemi, Parrott, Idah, Connolly and Kayode. One or two of those might have made it - for instance Coventry might not have been called up to the seniors - but it still would have been a disappointingly weakened squad to take to a finals tournament.
It doesn't have to be though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
This comes back to the development thread. all of these issues really are linked. If you take it that this new emerging group of players - whether you, I or anyone else rates them, leave that aside for now - and assume that they and the next batch will become the senior squad with a couple of exceptions, it means that bar perhaps an exceptional player that each underage squad from 21s down to 16s, will be composed of the best players from each year, and not lost to a grade ahead our of necessity, so that for example in 6 yrs time, the next group that has a collective such as Collins, Molumby and Parrot will have them for the duration of the campaign and develop as groups, rather than chopping and changing constantly.Quote:
Edit - just thinking about it again, we might have been down as many as 18 players who would have been eligible and likely to be selected for the finals tournament - Kelleher, Travers, Bazunu, O'Shea, Masterson, Collins, Knight, Molumby, Coventry, Taylor, Hodge, Smallbone, Patrick, Obafemi, Parrott, Idah, Connolly and Kayode. One or two of those might have made it - for instance Coventry might not have been called up to the seniors - but it still would have been a disappointingly weakened squad to take to a finals tournament.
With the 21s going to 16 finalists recently, we need to be making the finals as regularly as possible.
Friendlies against Switzerland, Australia, and Denmark in Spain confirmed for the end of the month
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/unde...ia-and-denmark
Would be good to see Finn involved, though I haven't heard much about him recently. Is he still injured or did he just fall out of the first team picture at Getafe?
I wonder if Odubeko will show up this time or if there will be another issue.
Was saying it for months, lad has 0 interest and should really be forgotten about. Won't even be named this time and the FAI will probably cite "fatigue" or a non-existent injury again to cover for him for a while longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
You say it with such certainty that it could only have been gleaned from direct discussion with the lad. What else did he say to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ColourfulPeanut
Ryan Johansson is apparently Irish again, according to Paul Nealon on twitter. Good to see him back involved, thought that ship might have sailed.
Would be interesting to see him lining out against both Luxembourg and Sweden for our Under 21s.
Thank you great newsQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I'll happily be proved wrong and hope to be wrong.
Every indication under the sun that he doesn't have interest so we'll wait and see.
nice one. bit more detail from the independent:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-40417713.html
I see Paul O'Shea has procreated.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColourfulPeanut
Mutant strain?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
He's finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Screen Age Mutant Moaning Mytle.
https://forum.ybig.ie/uploads/13052/u21_may21.PNG
Squad announced for friendlies v Switzerland, Australia and Denmark in Marbella 30th May, 2nd June and 5th June.
No Odubeko is interesting.
Kenny is now in the same position as his predecessor - there's more interesting and exciting players included in the U21 squad
True, players nobody has seen play are more interesting and exciting.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
No Obafemi either, he was born in June 2000, so is still eligible, and six months younger than Noss
I think there's an exoticism there as well - players with Sevilla and Getafe and Dortmund, which we've hardly ever seen at 21s level before.Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Doesn't mean they'll be any good though!
Shout-out to Colm Whelan though; good to see UCD represented in the 21s squad again.