yes, some of them have been excellent. but is that not to say that any other group of fans would have a section willing to take those steps?Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
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yes, some of them have been excellent. but is that not to say that any other group of fans would have a section willing to take those steps?Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Kilcoyne Our Hero
you reckon they would have. look at some of the other clubs who have had financial problems in this league in recent years- have they had anything like the money raised like rovers have? no.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Cheers for proving my point about bitterness. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
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What about the fans of Cork Hibernian why did they not take those sort of steps?Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
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Originally Posted by Ιanna
thats funny - clubs like shelbourne raise many many multiples of the amount raised by the 400 club EVERY year - cos thats how much it takes to run a professional football club - EVERY YEAR - they have a ruthless approach to exploiting any and all potential revenue streams and a top calss angle on corporate fundraising- my only criticism about the rovers 400 club/supporters trust approach is that once the emergency factor dies down its going to be very hard to extract any more blood from the same ole stones - put simply they dont have the supporter base to draw on and meet the costs of running the team and club year in year out - Dunphy was right in the sense that football clubs (even in decent leagues) are bottomless pits that suck up money
they've only a hope of success if their restructuring includes a radical re-appraisal of what is really achievable from participation in the league (which aint much) - at the moment I think their ambitions are pie in the sky - but that could be just the press release facade to attract fresh investors (read patrons)
Mypost,
Derry used to have thoushands at away matches because of succes but you are missing the fact that our city had no senior football team for a long time, when this returned the city was buzzing with interest and this led to large crowds. Naturally enough over time this has wained.
Eanna,
It is only really youselves Harps and us who can rate away support with any sort of effectiveness due to the length of travel. Dublin teams should take more to matches as they rarely have to travel outside the pale. Cork, City and Harps have to travel all day Friday to make games in Dublin. TBH Rovers probably bring the most to the brandy of the dublin teams with $hels being predictably pathetic despite us having a big enough rivalry with them.
That only occured to me a minute ago - how someone with a Cork Hibs avatar could be so glib about the possible demise of Ireland's most famous club beggars belief. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick89
KOH
A rivalry that nobody our side knows/cares about. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Speranza
Yeah but that's kids for you, dreamers with no sense of hate. :)
Ollie seems to care hence his paying of $hels fans on buses to ensure a large turnout a few seasons back and his famous argument with City fans.
I'd say he was a wee bit more concerned with winning the league than anything about Derry but whatever you want to believe
Based on his behaviour at games over the past 15 or so years against us we seem to get under his skin a bit more than others (turning up with the wrong jersies, assaulting fans, storming out of the directors box in the Brandywell cause he can give it but can't take it etc.).Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Since its not a rivalry, you won't be too bothered when we go top on Fri night and knock you out of the cup (again) then?
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Yeah but bringing 400 to a european game is easy. Bringing more than 600 to a game against Dub City last year was a hard task and one you failed. It could also be argued that Rovers' fans reputation (which although might be OTT in some circles is not without foundation) was/is a major factor in the lack of competant professionals wanting to attach themselves to the club ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Of course you won't admit it (not even to yourself!) but not everyone thinks your fans are great. (As you said on you board, if even only a 100 signed up for the 5 year member ship you'd have 500K. As it is you have 250K) Put all the spin on it you like but thats surely disappointing
im afraid you'll have to ask someone who was born by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick89
It only wained because Derry weren't as successful as they were when they came into the league. The same happened to Sligo. 10 years ago, they were a good side, and even won a round in Europe. The Showgrounds was packed for all of their home games. Then they were relegated, struggled, and the attendances nosedived. They don't get anything like those mid-90's crowds there now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speranza
The club has been established for 4 years, where hundreds of thousands of Euro has been raised and given to SRFC, and will continue to be raised after the emergency period.Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
Not true. We were getting crowds of 10,000 when we came into the League and regular travelling support of 3,000 odds due to the euphoria of actually having a senior football side again. Remember this was pre-Sky, pre pubs and off-licenses opening on a Sunday and there was little other competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
When we won the League in 97 we didn't have crowds of 10,000 or anything near that and we have been in the top 3 all season this year and our crowd average is about 2,500.
Nosedived, at the limerick game we got over 2000 and thats in the first division. I'd like to see any club in Ireland attract over 2000 people to an utterly useless, depressing excuse for football. Any moderate success and we can draw out a good crowd. I know the crowds droped but for first division average crowds, we draw 3 times that amount for an average game. If we get some moderate success like 1994 we could attract up to 4000.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
It's strange that Rovers can get these great crowds against the likes of Limerick and get nothing remotely like it any of the times I've seen them play at home to Harps or Galway in recent years. Kinda makes you wonder.
And those two teams would probably bring the biggest away attendances to the Showgrounds due to the proximity of Sligo for both sets of fans :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Galway Harps
The examinership is a legal right afforded to any company, including other league clubs and Rovers are fully entitled to enter into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
As yet the FAI have failed to give the legal basis for the punishment, but it appears that the punishment is for a mistake in the accounts, not for Rovers being in Examinership.
As the FAI were aware of this fact before the season started they are on VERY thin ice punishing Rovers for that fact especially as Bob Breen and the Licence committee flagged it but the FAI ignored him and awarded Rovers a licence anyway.
100 people = 250k, there was 80 new monthly paying members in the space of a week and presumably the other 180 are not in a position to get a loan or 1 week was to short to be able to arrange it. 40% of existing members is a good strike rate for 2,500 of a lump sum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Nowadays nobody would. However when Derry were getting 10,000 to the Brandywell, they were in the First Division. Admittedly this was 1985/87 .Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Real Rover
Look im not pulling those figures out of my arse cause if you look at the official attendance of the game it is 2000 and if you ask anyone who was at that game 2000 is a sound approxiamte attendance. So just cause ye bring the 40 or so fans to the showgrounds last year and didnt get the full house ye deserve, ill just put that down to yer B.O. problem. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Galway Harps
.. alright, that when Galway United went to the Showgrounds last year, there seemed to be at most 600 at the two games, and probably far less.
So Harps and Galway supporters are lying. The funny thing about Sligo Rovers is your need to artifically boost attendances. If there are 150 people in Terryland Park for a game, then I will estimate the attendance at 150, not some ridiculous figure to boost my flagging self-confidence.
Sligo's "official" attendances are taken from their website and are always "2000" or "1500". Surely not official attendances by the standards of normal clubs. In fairness, they seem to be getting bigger attendances than last season, but anyone watching TV3 can see that the "official" figures are incorrect.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Sligo educational system.
What the fcuk has this talk about Sligo's crowds got to do with the title of this thread? Stick to the bloody subject or discuss this elsewhere, please!
Tp get anyone to do it is suberb but basically you got 100 people to sign up, and I doubt that any of the Dub clubs wouldn't have got that many to sign up to save our respective clubs. Nothing wrong with the Rovers fans but the way some are going on its like they've a HUGE hardcore all saving their club together. 100 fans are, and fair play to them, but any decent sized club could get that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Force
Bring it to around the 350 mark which is more than decent. Didn't Pats try something like this last year or the year before, how'd that work out ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Personally i think docking them eight points is ridiculus.
The eircom league is in bits as it is and the last thing that is needed is losing another big fan base.
It is only paperwork and it should be about the football :ball:
Above all else, the Licencing Committee were in full possession of the facts when they granted the Licence. It was only when the 400 Club made the FAI aware of the errors in the book-keeping that they begun to decide to take action. They are administering punishment to a club that is now being run by the very people who are doing more than the FAI ever will to rectify the kind of shoddy management that has always existed throughout this league. Also, the decision to dock 8 points (why not 7, why not 9, why 50) was based purely on the number of points that Rovers have accumulated to date - they made their decision during the Pats game, at which time we were losing 1-0. What if we had just 2 or 3 points on the board, what if we had 20? Btw, I can only laugh at the "high-and-mighty, serves them right" attitude of some people. Scratch the surface at any club and you'll find enough to throw them out of the league if you scruntinise the rule-book. How is it that not one club was granted a Licence at first, but on appeal EVERYONE got one?
"any decent sized club could get that..."Quote:
Originally Posted by joeraki
Well Dodge?
KOH
PATS got 100 plus to sign up for its closest equivilent - 5 year tickets (incidentally theres people at pats who bought life memberships for 250 squid when we were on the verge of winding up!!
now thats value!
The life tickets were £1,000 old money. Saved our club back in 1992...Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
The Pats 500 club thing was a 5 season ticket, nothing more nothing less(We weren't close to dying). I said at the time it'll look like a failure if they didn't reach 400 but would they listen... As it is we have over 400 individual season tickets (to go with the 203 5 year year tickets - and yeah I checked). We had a monthly draw thing last year were people gave money by direct debit. It was limited to 250 and fully subsribed (not at first though). Myself I couldn't do it as I didn't want to donate more money to club at the time...
I'm saying in a life or death situation Cork, Bohs, Pats, Derry and maybe one or two others could easily raise 250,000 in a week from their fans...
After 4/5 goes already I'd hope so :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I doubt after nearly 20 years of homelessness they could do it though... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
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Originally Posted by Buller
20 years haha, yeah it is funny! :D
Yeah, I mean it's not like Pats ever spent any time on the road :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
yeah - you're right I better not make light of it in that case... :rolleyes: :p
TBH, I'd say you could be hard pushed in Cork, unless one or two big donations come in.....:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
LOL :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne
And bitter muppet of the year goes to gavinzac. And particularly given that he comes from cark where NOBODY gave a #### back in 1983 when there was NO senior team down there.
KOH
KOH
More than 20 years in total. Guess what, we're still going...Quote:
Originally Posted by manic da hoop