Scores a hat-trick! Fair play to the kid, has seized his chance with both hands.
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Scores a hat-trick! Fair play to the kid, has seized his chance with both hands.
Call him up Trap!
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk...fa-cup-1355442
I wouldn’t hang around waiting at the bus station too long on the Monday morning if I was Doncaster...
I think that ship might have sailed for Doncaster unless they already have something in writing from Norwich. Although possibly Norwich might still let him go there if they will wait until Pukki etc get back to fitness. You'd have to think a few Championship clubs who might pay a larger loan fee would be taking a look now though.
Looks a bit good doesn't he?
He looks too good for a League 1 loan anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Was excellent today, he has everything, could genuinely be a top class striker.
So glad to be wrong about him
Lets keep our humble pie in the fridge for a while yet. He was great today, but he has a long way to go. Let’s wait until he’s a regular 20+ goal a season premiership striker then we can admit we got it all wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
He certainly has come on leaps and bounds technically in a short space of time. And has all the raw attributes needed of pace, power and finishing. Here’s hoping he will continue to improve and get regular game time. He will be given a chance in the coming weeks, with still an option of a championship loan up to jan 31 if he doesn’t get adequate game time. Farke would really need to change the formation for Adam to get some serious game time this side of the summer, as Pukki won’t be dislodged.
I didnt see even this in him, I didn't think he'd be near first team at this age and would end up lower down division. He still might of course but it's much more encouraging that when we seen him firstQuote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
In fairness, I think we'd all be happy with a 10 goal a season Premiership striker at the moment...even a 5 goal Premiership striker..Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
It is impressive however you look at it, a hat-trick against a decent championship team chasing a play-off spot, and only 18!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5NX6G9uKro
He looks quality, He is Norwich's youngest ever hat-trick scorer, certainly one to watch, hope he start Norwich's next Premiership game, be
hard/foolish to leave him out surely? (next match is man u!).
I'd not been following him at all but I note some seem to have been unimpressed with him but remember how young he is, only 18, still
developing.
The sky is the limit.
Just gonna watch on MOTD day and see what they have to say about him!
MOTD - claim that Mick said he would now have to cap him to keep him. Why even suggest there is a risk of him defecting?
Can't see him joining Nigeria somehow, at least I hope not!
Watched MOTD there, he was fantastic.Gabby Logan said that Mick McCarthy said he’d have to cap him to ‘make sure Ireland keep hold of him’. I’m not sure what that means, the kid was born in Cork and has a Cork accent.There’s a clip of McCarthy at another match (sorry I’m not sure how to post links) where he’s singing Idah’s praises and talks about capping him.He doesn’t mention anything about doing it to ‘keep hold of him’. I don’t know if he said that at another stage today.If MOTD have misquoted him, then they’re bang out of order, if they’ve quoted him correctly, Mick would need to explain what he means.
Born in Cork to an Irish mother and a Nigerian father, inspired by his grand dad Kevin Hayes. This lad is going nowhere
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.iris...in-470520.html
But it’s the suggestion from MOTD that’s disturbing. To be blunt, if he was white, they wouldn’t have said it.
Yes, note in the Southampton game Smallbone was referred to as the Irish teenager, even though he’s English born, not once in the Idah report or post match analysis was he referred to as being Irish, other than that he played in the Toulon tournament and that Mick has to cap him to keep hold of him, poor journalismQuote:
Originally Posted by Fizzer
Yeah this won't be an issue with Idah. He's Cork born and bred with a Cork mother.
It's ignorance by the British media. I'd just ignore them.
Wow. That's incredibly shoddy stuff from MOTD. I don't think this notion that he would defect to Nigeria was even on the radar of any Irish supporters. This is an example of what Brexit has caused. Or has this example been the cause of Brexit? Chicken and egg stuff.
I’ve suggested to the BBC that it’s basically racism and invited them to correct the record
So, basically, this is going to be what's on every Irish football site's comment board for the next eight weeks or so: "Mick should include Lee O'Connor, Dara O'Shea, Nathan Collins, Dan Crowley, Jayson Molumby, Jason Knight, Michael Obafemi, Aaron Connolly, Troy Parrott, Adam Idah, Mark Travers and Caoimhin Kelleher in his starting eleven against Slovakia - but he won't because he's a dinosaur"
Seriously, though, what an achievement for Idah - I've said it before about him here... whatever level he plays at, he just scores. At this point he just needs to move up one more level to be where we want him to be... and he's still only 18. It's beginning to look like the youngsters are trying to one-up each other again - there was a point a little while back where three or four of them scored hat-tricks in quick succession at under-age levels and now they seem to be trying to outdo each other again. And it's great to see.
Good point regarding the healthy competition and it was made on Off The Ball yesterday. If you're Parrott then, whilst you're younger, your competitive instinct must surely be kicking in and resulting in a bit of hunger. Likewise for Afolabi who has seemingly spent 6 months stagnating on the back of a brilliant under 19 tournament (even if reports that he has impressed Lennon at Celtic are to be believed). Connolly, Obafemi and Idah are hopefully now viable options at their clubs (Connolly and Obafemi are established options, yet to be seen if Idah has served to commence this establishment process).
Similar situation now for Coventry when he looks at Molumby and Knight and their impact at Championship level.
Masterson must also be wondering when he will make his senior now with O'Shea and Collins having done so at younger ages.
I would also imagine that advantage will pass to the first of Travers and Kelliher to forge out a successful loan move.
I've noted a similar misstep by someone within the English media. A F365 profile of players at EFL level that could kick on for the PL refers to Eberechi Eze as a "Nigerian forward" even though he was in England's last under 21 squad and there have been no reports of him jumping ship: https://www.football365.com/news/six...ague-transfersQuote:
Originally Posted by Fizzer
Adam Idah is essentially the same as Katie Taylor. Has a foreign born father.
Has anyone ever questioned Katie Taylor’s Irishness?
Very shoddy work from MOTD
Though its not if its an accurate quote from Mick!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizzer
Correct, If the quote is accurate Mick will have to explain it.
I was watching BT when Mick commented on Idah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
He didn't imply he needed to cap Idah to keep him with Ireland, it was because he scored a hat-trick in a competitive first team game.
Exactly. There was zero inference or implication in relation to his national identity or his Nigerian father.
Honestly, you would wonder if it's a surprise to England that little old Ireland has immigrants like they do.
Thanks Sean, I saw the clip from BT but wasn’t sure if there was any further comments from Mick somewhere (I couldn’t find any). The BBC have said that it’s been forwarded to the producers of MOTD and they’ll reply as soon as possible (they say to expect 10 working days). The wording of what I sent them isn’t excessive but I won’t post it here without mods permission. I’ll let you know when a full response is received.
Anyway, after that brilliant display from Idah I hope the loan move doesn’t happen and he gets game time against Man Utd on Saturday. He looks a fantastic prospect.
The word "racism" is probably the most overused word today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizzer
This is another example of throwing it around at something that's not remotely racist.
Given that capping players to keep hold of them has been a big talking point in Irish football the last while, it's not an entirely unreasonable point to have been made. It may be a bit ignorant of the facts, or it may simply be a misinterpretation of something McCarthy actually did say, but that's not quite the same thing as being racist.
People fall over themselves to get offended these days tbh.
https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/...tion-1-6450971
Farke seems to be changing his mind on a potential loan for Idah. Doncaster must be sickened.
People can do a bit yeah, but I think it was an unreasonable point to have been made. It wasn’t actually a point at all, it was a misquotation of what McCarthy said. It arose, I would suggest, because of Idah’s ethnicity. MOTD would not have misquoted McCarthy if Idah was white. Obafemi had to field similar nonsense for no reason (Mark Hughes to blame primarily there, ably assisted by Martin O’Neill).Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The point you make on the capping issue to keep players is a reasonable one, except that it’s only an issue in the context of players born outside Ireland, some of them with links only through one grandparent. I’ve never heard the ‘capping to keep them’ issue raised in the context of a white player born and raised in Ireland. You can call it something other than racism if you prefer but I think it’s wrong to call into question the loyalty of a young fella from Cork to his country and to suggest that he’s flighty on the basis of nothing other than the colour of his skin.
Idah should not now be expected to have to answer questions from the media surrounding his loyalty when he hasn’t done or said anything to the contrary, nor has McCarthy by all accounts.
The story should have been that another exceptional Irish player has broken through in spectacular fashion and might now be capped (which is the actual story if MOTD hadn’t taken liberties) but the insinuation that McCarthy has to now handcuff him to his own country is ugly, unwarranted and wrong.
Problem for me there is you're basing a fairly serious accusation based on little more than your own presumptions. I don't think it's good enough for someone to have an accusation of racism made to their employer because of stuff you're assuming.
I would say it's entirely possible the presenter didn't know his entire background - he was a fairly unexpected story at short notice, and there's lots of research to be done for a programme like that; it's not all about Idah.
I still think you're overreacting and you should at very least correct your complaint email to give the presenter the benefit of innocent until proven guilty rather than shouting "Racist!" at what could just be a simple mistake
What was her exact quote?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizzer
I’d guess it’s nothing more than another instance of British obliviousness to Ireland and Irish matters generally, coupled with lazy journalism – Idah’d be on the radar of BBC Radio Norfolk’s sports desk, and a quick phone call from an MotD researcher to them or Norwich’s press office would have given them all the background needed.
Far more likely in my view alright.
You could draw some parallels with Declan Rice given that he had as much Irish blood as Idah has Nigerian, albeit perhaps Idah's father was born in Nigerian but Rice's old man was born in England. There were questions asked to Roy about Rice potentially defecting to England.
I would say, however, that Logan or her team would not have even considered assessing if Aaron Connolly, for instance, had any foreign-born parent or grandparent.
I would also query if Logan has ever made a similar statement about one of England's black players. For example, was something similar ever stated regarding capping Abraham or Tomori?
I probably don't feel as strongly about this as others and I'm going too far down the "what if" road with those questions.
I also saw that interview. And TBF to Logan she has tweeted that it was a quote from Mick.Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
It may well not have been a comment Mick made to camera, rather in the studio.
I think we are too quick to blame Logan/BBC before exploring the source of the comment.
Are you referring to this Tweet by Gabby? https://twitter.com/GabbyLogan/statu...334209536?s=19
Hardly conclusive.
And how would she know what Mick said in a BT studio (his aired comments were pitchside) when she works for the BBC?