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Other fans have similar thoughts, shams have delusions. 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Think it occurs with "smiley" and "bracket." Seems to be a coding thingQuote:
Originally Posted by dong
The model of the club just hasn't worked out this year. Last year we blitzed the First Division and had a very credible cup campaign by reaching the semi losing narrowly to Dundalk at Oriel. Slogett and O'Connor departed in the winter and the squad was pretty much eviscerated in the summer. Yes, we had started to drift but the squad depletion and the uncertainty has left us unable to credibly compete this year. Maybe succession planning has been insufficient or maybe that level of flux just can't be managed. I feel having already lost all our best players and having just signed two experienced Premier quality midfielders may actually see us positioned to hit the ground running in the First.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdManRun
As for last night, I think the youthful nature of the team leaves us prone to complete collapse in a way that might not happen if we had a few veteran heads. It's been an arduous and challenging season and the team must be increasingly demoralised. Rovers actually played better against us in Tallaght and could probably have hit more than ten the time they hit seven but last night we performed even worse. Credit to Bohs for continually pushing and having the appetite.
It looks like you didn't understand what I posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Let me try to make it clearer - Some posters regularly make a generalised assumption that all fans of any one particular club have an identical view. That has no connection with how some fans of different clubs may agree on some points
(I realise this is probably pointless, if you just wanted to have a lazy jibe)
Good win for Rovers last night up in the Brandywell. Having the best keeper in the league helps. Jack Byrne ran the game, as he runs every game and it was a good finish by greener. Can't remember the last time we won twice in a season up there. Not much Rovers can do about catching dalk, especially with 2 gimmes coming up for them against UCD. A win on Waterford will at least prolong the coronation I suppose.
Fair play to Rovers - any win in the Bradywell is decent, two wins in the same season is remarkableQuote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
It most be frustrating to have "the best keeper in the league" along with "the best defence in the league", and "the top three left backs" etc etc and still have lost 3 x the number of league games as Dundalk, conceded more goals and also be so far removed from maintaining a credible league challenge past July.
Especially with Jack Byrne “running every game “ 😁 delusions or what ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I was generalising based on the fact Bohs fans are unlikely to give rovers credit for something positive for obvious reasons and Dundalk fans on here and online in general take exception to anyone saying any club in the league is better than then at anything in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Shamrock Rovers have 1 point from their games against Dundalk and Bohs this season so you'll excuse us if we find comments like best keeper in the league and Shamrock are great entertainers amusing. Are you Stephen Bradley because sound like himQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
You don't have to try to double down on something that is so obviously unfair and inaccurateQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Generalise - to make a broad, sweeping assumption or statement - is exactly what I said you were doing.
Your justifying "fact" about Bohs fans is also askew for example - I recall the much maligned marinobohs recently giving repeated credit for the matchday experience and organisation at Tallaght Stadium (maybe this credit is due to SDCC?)
I thought the fact I was making a sweeping generalisation was blindingly obvious? Even included a "maybe" to say there are obviously exceptions which again I would have thought was obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
GIS rest of of us a break from yousers superior wit,
Guys,as they used to say back in the golden days of football forums,fecking message each other cos nobody,bar yous wants to listen in.
And the group think continues in the posts above... suggest for convenience you set yourselves up as BoEz and jointly post to cut down on the boring repetitive narative
Succession planning is one thing, but UCD constantly churn out young players. Obviously they struggle to maintain premier division status frequently, but never before have the been so badly embarrassed. Portsmouth / Rovers / Bohs results shouldn’t happen regardless of the level or circumstances. A lot of people refer to the players they lost during the midseason, but it’s not like they were flying before the break and have just fallen off a cliff since!Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
From the outside looking in, Mahdy seems to consistently score goals and make the difference in games. He’s been behind Davis who scored less goals and now Sam Byrne who is seriously out of shape.
Would I be right in saying a lot of the UCD squad is the U19 squad that one the league a couple of seasons ago/competed in Europe? You would wonder if last seasons success was down to a golden group of talent rather than managerial decisions!
Within 10pts and 2nd is progress, law of averages game coming up as well, next season we need to be challenging till the end though.
Don’t know about against the run of play as Romeo had missed a sitter about a minute before that. We were abysmal in the second half though and got what we deserved. Just kept giving the Ball back. Really need something in centre midfield to go with Cawley.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
UCD had enough decent players with LOI experience in their starting XI last night to have ensured not have lost anything like 10-1 but an inexperienced goalkeeper and another couple of inexperienced U19s in defence in a system that passes the ball out of the backline can become a recipe for disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdManRun
That horrifically bad Galway United team from 2011 conceded 8 on one occasion, 7 on one occasion and 6 on four occasions. This current UCD team are still superior to that Galway United team so I think O'Neill is going to have to change their approach to avoid this again if he's stuck with inexperienced teenagers at the backline.
Mahdy is developing and he's just not that effective as a centre forward. He's only figured so much due to Davis' injury earlier in the season and departure. He may be our top scorer but in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. I don't think the complete gutting of the squad in midseason can be understated. We've never had our squad disassembled midseason like that. We had one outfield sub in one match. We had sustained a bad run of losses but we were rarely outclassed. The complete collapse has taken place after the raft of departures. I wouldn't focus too much on the Portsmouth result, it was a friendly utilising U19s and U17s. Pineapple would have a better idea how many of the title winning/European U-19 squad are in the current senior team. I think Kearns was one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThirdManRun
Or shams could stop posting crap and expecting everyone else to accept it as “fact”Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Is that your view or the BoEz group view ?Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Shelbourne look as good as promoted,Longford in for a long slog in the playoffs..
it would be a help if the shels fans behaved themselves. they destroyed 13 of our seats in the away end in front of the guards and they fired cans onto the pitch when they scored. they wrecked a pool table in one of the pubs in longford before the game.
win or lose shels fans are a disgrace and I safely bet you that they will get away with the damage caused to the ground cos the FAI were afraid of them.
we were a total disgrace ourselves and didnt deserve a point at all as we let shels bully us on the pitch. mind you the first goal for shels has being proven to be offside.
I think our tactics were completely wrong and I dont fancy us in the playoffs and will get battered by Bohs in the FAI Cup. I think Neale Fenn has a lot to answer for too. his tactics baffled our fans!
Can you confirm Shams are going to stop posting crap ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
In your own time.... 😁
Skinner was the 19s keeper that year afaik. Kearns' development has probably surprised everyone since. Scales and Collins were the centre-halves that year and there were a few lads like Corcoran who have since left. Simon Power has obviously gone on to England but most of that team haven't really continued in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Granted, but I still think we had far more of the play in the half. In fairness to Sligo you did have a couple of really good chances in the second half as well, even though we were generally on top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Kearns was the keeper by the time the Youth League came around - but the Youth League is strange because the team that qualified were too old to play by the time it came around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
The Youth League team still reached the semis of the U19 league that year - lost in a bat**** crazy semi against Pat's; 7-5 or something silly like that - and we were in the semis again last year. Of the Youth League team, Kearns, Dignam, Farrell, Boore, Farrugia, McDonald and Ryan were all in the squad at the start of the season. So at worst, we had two golden generations, but I don't think ThirdManRun's point that a golden generation basically covered for managerial decisions stacks up. A golden underage generation is a managerial decision in itself in terms of signing those players.
We've had lots of golden generations before, but ultimately a whole team can't jump from 19s to the Premier, which is kind of what's happened with so many players either departed or injured. The best UCD teams have always had players stay on after college - think the likes of Tony McDonnell, Alan Mahon, Alan McNally and so on, who played ten seasons - and you then introduce 2/3 new players each year. But we can't afford that any more.
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Originally Posted by Martinho II
He does have you well up the table & in a shout for promotion.
There are some Cork City fans who want to see Fenn at Turners Cross :confused:
Maybe its because he was a decent player back in the day for us.
for last while since our form collapsed we have being playing three at the back which is ok against weaker sides but not the stronger ones.. in hindsight now I think its too early for us to go up. Drogheda and Shels were knocking on the door last season so I dont think Shels will have their own way yet considering these two have to meet for the final time soon!Quote:
Originally Posted by disgruntled
I thought Harps looked decent before the first goal. They looked confident and were happy to play football. The first two goal were atrocious defensively. Harps should be comfortably clear of UCD, you would think, it's hard to see them making up the points on anyone else though.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebronze14
Good win on Friday in Derry
Hopefully follow up tonight in Waterford
Academic in the context of the league at this stage but finishing strongly is important.
I'm hoping we can lose no more ground between now and season end that way i can spend the winter hoping that next year will be our year. :)
A strong finish and starting next season with Jack Byrne still in the squad will give me some of that "hope" that normally kills you.
UCD lost 16 out of 20 before July 1st and 6 out of 8 since July 1 - so no change there. There may be plenty of new faces on the pitch, but the same old manager
It's hard to imagine anything other than a comprehensive win for Rovers tonight, as Waterford are on a diabolical run of form. Since the Blues defeated St Pats in early May, UCD are the only other team they have beaten in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
A win tonight for Rovers would be their first back-to-back league wins since beating Cork in Tallaght in May.
Since then Rovers have managed only 12 points from 8 games. After tonight Rovers will have another 8 league games until the end of the season
Maybe Jack Byrne is some sort of footballing Messiah, but Rovers recent record is not exactly the stuff to inspire dreams
Fair play to ye doing all that research. You must really love Rovers.
in clarification to that post it has being pointed out to me elsewhere that there was no pool table wrecked in a longford pub. apologises to any confusion and anger caused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
In fairness, one can see how people might think parts of Longford have been wrecked by someone.
Thats the thing about stats, i don't care enough to go doing the reasearch but from memory ,,,,,,,,, :)Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Since then Dundalk have played 6 games in Europe without winning a match and scoring 2 goals, they have zero more European games until the end of the season.
Maybe Vinnie Perth is some sort of footballing Messiah, but Dundalks recent record is not exactly the stuff to inspire dreams.
I beg to differ, 6 games in Europe for a LoI club is the stuff dreams just ask any Waterford fan and suggest that to a Dundalk fan c2012 and there would have been some fit of laughter!! The €1mil+ this year isnt too shabby for no wins and only 2 goals! Brings us damn close to breaking €10mil in prizemoney since 2014. We cant complain too much tbh ;)
Here is one from memory....
While Rovers have managed 12 points in the last 8 games, Dundalk have won 22 points
Dundalk's record is pretty sound thanks
Would have thought you'd see my refusal to fish as a positive :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Should be a good match in oriel tinight