Youmust be referring to another incident.Leahy didn't go down didn't go down didnt "play act" a la Dundalk players.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
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Youmust be referring to another incident.Leahy didn't go down didn't go down didnt "play act" a la Dundalk players.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
The ref was bad, and allowed Dundalk dictate decisions (including over ruling his own linesman at one point) BUT Dundalk were much the better side and fully deserved the win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Giller is right about the peno and Long about the result.
Seems anyone who doesn't buy the Dundalk are "perfect" narrative is a whinger 🤨
They are a cracking team (and IMHO will walk the League) but they do often get decisions (Connolly must have more MOM awards than any other name at Oriel 😁).
Why don't you deal with the content of the posts .Young player gets his foot broken 93 minutes, game safe for Dundalk.A possee of Dundalk posts but no response to that fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Someone on Twitter mentioned 'less than 780' which is pretty exact and random ,not sure if that helps!Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
I didn't notice the Conor Levingston injury that you mentioned so can't really comment on how it happened. Was there even a free kick awarded?
As regards the Georgie Kelly / Darragh Leahy incident, there was certainly no contact, no foul and no free. No reaction from the ref or linesman either.
There seems to be hysterical reactions from Bohs fans after every defeat.
"Hysterical reaction"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
- YOU doubted it was a penalty at Oriel
- Dan McDonnell mentioned the Jarvis hand ball in the lead up to the first goal.
All hysterical reaction ????
Connolly is a useless ref who had a poor game even by his low standards. That's taking nothing from Dundalk it's simply stating a fact. Get over yourself FFS
It's easy not to be hysterical when the referee is your 12th man in every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
we had the same issue with hosting the england france game this time last week!Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
So you're talking about an incident were there was no contact but if there had of been Leahy might have been injured?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Pity the high morals of Bohs fans don't stretch to the derby games. Not a problem when you're getting the decisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bohs11
That's great thanks.Judging by the highlights it did seem that sort of a number.:good:Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Interesting that when Cork City fans pointed out Dundalk's mastery of the dark arts over the past number of years, we were derided and our players were accused sarcastically by Bohs/Rovers/Pats fans (who seemed to have hard ons for Dundalk's total football) of having halos over their heads.
I've an immense feeling of shaudenfraude (sp?) right now.
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Originally Posted by sullanefc
When you're on top everyone is looking for something to throw at you. It's mainly BS but opposition fans need something. Better than being belittled for tripe football.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Penny for Caulfields thoughts after 2 wins in a row for Cotter, looks like the players weren't trying for him anymore. Makes all the testimonials laughable
If only Caulfield's Cork had been more street smart and less naive and innocent, they would not have been left in Dundalk's shadow for most of the last five years.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Didn’t see ONE Bohs fan on here denying shams had a player wrongly sent off in the recent derby. Dundalk gobdhites defend bad refs decisions and accuse anyone else of “whining”.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
I guess the “high morals” of Dundalk fans prevent them seeing the obvious.
Don’t worry, Corks display of diving and time wasting at Dalymount last week far exceeded the efforts of Dundalk. The only difference was Dundalk can play good football.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Good to see Cork fans “finding” the forum again 😁
You'd be hard pressed to find a Rovers fan to suit that narrative anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Maybe not denying it but happy to relish in it all the same, certainly no Bohs fans condemning the ref those nights. There was one poor decision in the game on Friday and that was the soft penalty, justice was done when it was savedQuote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
I was surprised tbh that Dundalk got the penalty in Dalymount as given the number of penos they have had this year (in at or around ) the box you'd imagine the refs would be looking for nailed on before they give it.
I'm probably giving them to much credit for intelligence.
I don't think there is anything sinister about the number of penos they are getting its just swings and roundabouts , its not that long ago that Kenny was whinging about a lack of penos.
Our only experience of Dundalk this season is hammering them at Richmond, where their still total football was no match for ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by sullanefc
Still better than Cork mind.
Jarvis (I think) clearly handled the ball in the lead up to the first goal but hey, lets ignore that as it doesn't suit the dundalk agenda :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
Has anyone ever seen a LOI game with only one poor decision ? Ever ? do you even go to matches ?
So clear that you don't know who it was :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Plenty of Rovers fans (rightly) mocked the notion being portrayed by some posters that Cork were as clean as the driven snow. It was a standing joke around here that Cork did not commit foulsQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
I was referring more to the having hard ons for Dundalk so basically turning a blind eye to their "gamesmanship" narrativeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I tend to liken Dundalk to Ryanair........Ryanair do 95% of everything very well but in the same way that Ryanair let themselves down on customer service, the 5% of time that DFC involve themselves in the "professionalism" side of things takes a bit of the good out of the rest.
That being said it doesn't bother their own fans who want to win and the love of rivals is not really something most teams care about.
Bit like Corks fans didn't care about the style of football while they were winning.
And now that I've offended everyone my work here is done :)
Relax, I think you are more likely to have amused rather then offended many.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Apologies for not recognizing Dundalk players on sight (all cheats look the same ;)). Handball was clear (and mentioned in media reports) and was the reason the (so called) ref was booed throughout the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
Obviously not so clear from the high moral ground occupied by Dundalk fans .:p
We need to know the culprit.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Surely you recognised the distinctive boots? Maybe the number on the shirt and shorts would help - did you spot it?
Did the media reports identify him by name or just say there was a clear handball by an unidentified Dundalk player?
Was it this chap?
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Sigh, :rolleyes: Evening Herald named the player as Jarvis.He was facing 9back to shopping centre end) play so don't know his number. I was simply pointing out the 'penalty' was NOT the only wrong call and was not the reason the ref was booed throughout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Guess I need to make it idiot proof for some people. Yes, everyone else is wrong, Dundalk are football paragons of virtue and Connolly is the bestest ref ever.
Can we get a separate forum called 'Dundalk fight with........' and just alternate it with whoever they're playing!!!
co ordinate it with the fixture list :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
and a thread whre Bohs fans can cry when they lose! Dundalk away, Cork home, Dundalk home. Its actually getting funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Not our problem your players raise your game more V Rovers than other teams
Every ones problem your ref raises his game in Dundalk matches :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Nothing funnier than Dundalk crying - even when they win !
Havn't stopped crying since 2014 alright,Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
4 League Titles
2 FAI Cups
2 League Cups
Its hard to take
It's not a particularly nice part of the game but if a team can get an edge even via 'the dark arts' then it is unlikely that any team wouldnt try and exploit it. Its not unique to Dundalk. It's up to the referees and their assistants to minimise any gamesmanship. That the standard of refereeing in LoI is sketchy and used is hardly surprising. I do believe that any of that cynical side to the Dundalk players was picked up playing in Europe. We were naive especially the first year we played BATE and even a headbutt on Massey that was admitted to wasnt penalised. A more positive learning curve is the way in which the Dundalk lads dont switch off at thow ins etc as we were punished for it and brought it in to our domestic game. Is it unfair to have a multiball system when FT, large squad, and strength and conditioing is going to be an edge when up against PT teams, small squads and a crazy fixture list? Its not that sporting but so be it.
Any team can do the same as much as it irks the purists. We have had plenty of discussion in the past about how Sean Maguire 'manufactured' penalties and how that was ok with Cork fans regardless of their outrage at being generally tackled in games. The claims that Dundalk players surround the ref or O'Donnell being in the refs ear and that other sides didnt do the same was daft and what spurned the running joke especially with Cork fans.
On this occasion Bohs fans have been quite upset by refereeing, gamesmanship in the recent games they have lost but had a good giggle when they benefited from ref decisions in the last Dublin Derby so a wee bit of a double standard and hence this session of wind up. I did say before the end of the game even that there would be a good auld moan by Bohs fans!
I doubt Kelly or any other player went out to nastily injure anyone in a 93rd minute when the result was done. There would be something on tv footage, in the refs report and Keith Long said little about it that I saw. Dundalk having a bona fide hometown ref would be a first as even an actual hometown ref, Denis McArdle for example, went over the top to show lack of bias!! The old adage will inevitably fit that these things will balance out over a season (or 3) like Corks run of Maguire penos and Hobans batch this season. Has there ever been definite proof in any league that the champions get the benefit of the doubt over other sides? Its often claimed but generall debunked.
Dundalk are miles ahead of any other team when it comes to the dark arts but the way the modern game has gone I don't know if that is a criticism or an acolade
Its not a facet of the game I like but as the game has eveolved thIS way then its prudent to be able to play on the margins. At least until the lawmakers make a concerted effort to allow referees deal with any messing. Retrospective cards/bans for diving et al, carding anyone bar the captains for badgering or surrounding the refs could be done here in the absence of infrastructure for VAR.
Im not so sure that we are 'miles ahead', maybe less apologetic for taking whatever opportunity arises to gain an edge. The recent fair play tables would suggest that the 'dark arts' do not necessarily equate to fou/dangerousl play. Teams will play to a strength if for example physicality is their way to negate a side playing football. If there was greater confidence in the standard of refereeing then the preception would be different I think.
Here we go again - do Dundalk play 'on the margins' or 'at the margins' or even 'in the margins'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Joking apart, if Dundalk do gain an advantage from pressurising refs and general game management (I'm not convinced), as long as it is not cheating, is it wrong?
Dundalk definitely get an advantage from scoring loads and conceding fewer goals than most teams; top notch training facilities; large player budget; fewer suspensions from a good disciplinary record, and more - should these be restricted in some way?
Player fitness through strength and conditioning investment is an obvious good example. Dundalk raised the bar in this area and it was up to other clubs to raise their own standards, as many have done.
Given that Dundalk are only a Sergio Ramos short of Real Madrid, a hurl short of Brian Cody's Kilkenny and a eye gouge short of the All Blacks when it comes to the dark arts Dundalk position in the fair play table the last few years is pretty impressive....
2018 2nd to Cork
2017 1st
2016 1st
2015 1st
2014 1st
Truly Kenny/Perth's Dundalk are taking the mystical dark arts to a new level