Good quality debate opening up. Keep it coming.
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Good quality debate opening up. Keep it coming.
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It seems to me that his desire to play international football is greater that his desire to play for his country. I think he would do everything possible to get to the world cup finals otherwise he'd stick with France and hope they pick him..Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
Sure I'd like to see them qualify but it still wouldn't stop me giving my all to the team I was playing for. You'd expect that your 100% would not be good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
Generally i don't see the logic behind your argument. Every day of your life you make choices that directly/indirectly affect the life of your country. Buying foreign instead of irish brands, supporting premiership club instead of a league of ireland club etc. etc.. The list goes on. Everyone, at some time or other, has put their personal gain/happiness above that of their country.
Being an Irish person who has spent 83% of his life outside of Ireland I get kind of uncomfortable when I see these 'plastic paddy' and 'mercenary' comments being bandied about.
I don't know how anyone can call a premiership player in this day and age a mercenary for wanting to play international football. Lee Bowyer was today fined £200k, it probably wouldn't make much of a difference to his bank account.
I'm just absolutely shocked at the bias (I don't know if thats the right word) that exists among Irish people. Here is the first few posts on Zat Knights thread:
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good luck ya big lump of opportunistic rubbish
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We're not interested. Thanks but no thanks Zat.
The only people that didn't give Zat Knight a slating were those that thought he was good enough for the squad. We can't have one rule for one...Quote:
Keep this mercenary clown well away from our team, thank you very much.
at the end of the day, if he comes into the squad he will improve competition and therefore maybe even give o'shea or someone a kick up the Ar*e and keep them on their toes. i dont think anyone doubts that he is good enough though. i think we should get in there before franc sack ya man and give him a cap...give him 5 games and he'll soon feel "irish"!
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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
I suppose we are all entitled to our own opinions but iam sure most people with an un biased opinion would prefer to enter a world cup campaign with him rather than Ian Harte at left back.
Dont forget one of the greatest victories in Irish football history was achieved by a goal from a Scotsman,remember the Giants stadium 94 ?
I, like the rest of you want Ireland to progress and am in two minds here.He would be a great asset to the Irish cause but is he just another 'Irish wannabee' like Vinne Jones,Marlon King,Paul Butler.Kevins Nolan and Wheelan Zat Knight etc etc..I would hate to give him the chance unless he was 100% commited.
i am irish but i reckon if i declared for a country other than ireland and was to face ireland i would be even more committed to show my alliegence to whoever iwas playing for because id have something to prove.
i reckon Quedreue is top class left back and wed be maed to turn him down.
the down side is we dont wanna be seen to take on any player who'll improve our team......
if i was kerr id select him because the job of ireland manager is to pick the best 11 that are eligible to represent ireland.
left back i such a problem for us(weve actually noie in our squad) i reckon cal this guy up/
feck it.
whaynot.
we cud olay o shea either cebtere back or center midfield instead of restricting him to left bacj wher eh is oncomfortable,
ishe beter than harte yes!
oshea isbt even a left back!!!!!!!!!!
Personally I would never trust him playing against France or even in a match
in the same group, so he is ruled out of this qualifying campaign.
If I could play for say, Cyprus, but I was not good enough for Ireland I would
probably break the own goal record in a qualifying game against Ireland :D
Before I was taken off that is :cool:
Apparently he has not spoken to Brian Kerr or the Irish FA anyway, and I am not sure if his Irish links are more distant than his grandfather.
FRANCK QUEUDRUE has admitted that he is not qualified to play for the Republic of Ireland after all.
It seems Queudrue, 26, has a great grandfather with Gaelic blood and that is not good enough.
Middlesbrough’s France-born full-back said: “Unfortunately I am one generation out — and that is not enough for me to play for Ireland.”
End of discussion so :rolleyes:
He could of at least asked us first:
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=156228&postcount=2
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I actually remember that, so I was surprised to see all this being dragged up again.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
I don't see why, you say you're an Irish person.Quote:
Originally Posted by brine3
You're not a French person who can't log onto French forums so you're trying your luck here. ;) :D
It won't be besides the point when you're late for training :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
and remember stutgart in 88Quote:
Originally Posted by byrnie20
very good tiktok :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
this quote sums it up:
"Playing for Eire would never be a pride to me. But why not?"
We're ranked 12th in the world, most of out best players are Irish born or proud to represent the country. We don't need them.
QUEUDRUE CAN'T PLAY FOR IRELAND
By Ian Parkes, PA Sport Franck Queudrue's hopes of playing for the Republic of Ireland have been dashed due to the Middlesbrough defender making a mistake over his Irish ancestry.
Although born in Paris and with a France B cap to his name, Queudrue last week announced he would consider wearing the green of Ireland.
The 26-year-old claimed an Irish grandfather helped him qualify for Brian
Kerr's side, currently vying with France for a place in next summer's World Cup
as they are rivals in Group Four of the European qualifying section.
But a disappointed Queudrue revealed: ``Unfortunately I am one generation
out. ``I am very proud of my Irish ancestry, but it's my great grandfather who was from Ireland and that's not enough for me to play.
``When I was asked if I would like to play for Ireland, I said it would be an
honour for me to wear the Irish shirt and a privilege to play alongside the
likes of Roy Keane and Robbie Keane.
``Given the chance to play for Ireland I would have walked there. But it's not
possible.''
Advisor Garry Thornton confirmed talks have taken place with the Football
Association of Ireland, but their rules make it clear Queudrue will never
figure.
``Franck is a lovely man who always tries to be helpful and co-operative with
people, but sometimes he does find strong accents a little difficult to
comprehend,'' said Thornton.
``He did an interview on television last week and the Irish question was
raised, but he didn't quite understand what he was being asked.
``France have not shown much interest in calling him up, but he has always
been aware of his Irish family history.
``We did have some contact with the FAI, but nothing came of it. Unfortunately
he won't get the chance to play for Ireland. The rules are there.'
Well, at least he didn't keep referring to The Republic (a big plus in my view!)
First he can't remember where his grandfather is from and now he's claiming he'd have "walked" to Ireland. I know they say footballers are thick but this is ridiculous...
dont jump on him too quickly . alot of stuff is lost in translation or the person cant find the correct wording to use as english aint his native language, gaelic is ;) lol
The guy is a joke... maybe he should try and dig up a realtive from Northern Ireland..
I wonder who he will shout for at our game with the French?? Can't wait for anotherThread to start on the next Irish 'Wanabee' ,maybe then we should not be too hasty in jumping to any conclusions on his irish career until the research has been done first.(just a thought)
I wouldn't mind but this was brought up before the 2002 WC and at the time it came that he only had a great-grandfather. Lazy journalism anyone?!
he also mentioned it to Andy Gray last year before a game so maybe he was trying to gain attentionQuote:
Originally Posted by Docboy