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According to Gavin McLaughlin's match report the penalty was awarded against Lee Desmond, so it is reasonable to assume that Ian Birmingham was red carded for something he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Deeply ironic if Jim McKell was so offended by the language used, when he was accused of using "unprofessional language" by Sean Hoare on his last farcical performance in Oriel Park when awarding two dubious penalties to Bray.
A straight red for something said would be quite unusual, no?
Was there any bit of shoving or something?
In other news - a win! Our first in four months not against Athlone (throwing games/utter ****e), Waterford (bit weird) and Charlton (even weirder)
Georgie Kelly missed a penalty and hit the bar with the rebound when scoring would have equalled our goals-in-a-season record (15)
Shocking result for Pats. Even down to 10 men you shouldn't be shipping six goals. We've had a decent run up to last night, so I'm hoping we can get ourselves back on track and do enough to stay up. Whether there is enough character in this squad is the worry.
Bizarre changes by Pats in the second half though. I couldn't keep up with the numerous changes Buckley made to the formation. It is a wonder it was only six goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
I would have expected Buckley to go for damage limitation the second half, as goal difference may be vital. If ever there was a half to park the bus, that was it.
By the way, I thought Pats were playing good stuff until the penalty. They were struggling with Dundalk's width and that would have only got worse as defenders tired. However, Pats looked dangerous from set pieces and on the break.
Analysis of Limerick/Harps: http://bit.ly/2vTtROv
Tough run in now hitting bad form at the wrong time.
Just saw a replay of the penalty incident on the RTE player. Looks stonewall, I'm not sure why McKell didn't give it straight away.
Actually, I do know why. He's shyte.
I'm convinced we are waiting to play dundalk to win the league. Poor from us last night though. Never really kicked on after pulling one back. God I just want to get this over the line
Really enjoyed the limericks commentary on the game last night. Harps so lucky to get the 3 pts but we need a bit of luck to go our way
Dundalk were excellent last night, especially in the second half, we looked like scoring at almost every attack, great quality on the wing particularly by Duffy on the left and finally Connolly on the right who has taken time to blend in, nice finish too with his first goal for the club.
I honestly think if Cork had even 7 points less they would be in real danger of blowing the league, the have enough points though to win it, but no doubt who is finishing the season in the better form.
Pats were actually ok for the first half hour or so, but they are right back in trouble now, and they certainly didn't need to add 6 goals to their deficit.
I have no doubt Cork will fall over the line. The gap is too great.
It is such a strange season. A team that was completely dominant and built up a massive lead now looks very average.
In the LOI, we are used to teams being unrecognisable from one season to the next. But within the same season???
If we play like we have recently and Cork do likewise then the league won't be won that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
Pretty common I think. Bray last year went from brilliant to awful and have done something resembling a mirror image this year. Limerick seem to specialise in wild variation. My first year watching Harps back in the mid nineties we were bottom at one stage but rallied to end up in playoffs.
Yeah, I suppose. Not the league winners though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Not very often a team loses 3 key players(1 injured) in the middle of the season either.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
That's true for sure. Ye have been exceptional the last few weeks, our massive goal difference has been whittled down to just 6 from ye as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
For none limerick folk go over to the limerick page to see what limerick ppl think of this charlatanQuote:
Originally Posted by AlanOB
That is true, and I doubt Maguire and O'Connor would have been allowed to leave had the league not been all but wrapped up.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
What I want to know is when cork do clinch the title will their remaining players have the honesty and self awareness to post their medals to Sean Maguire or will some of them try to claim that they earned them on their own merit?
Genuine question btw now, I don't want any "lulz Limerick r useless" type replies.
This goes to the heart of a teams character afterall.
I think its fair to say every league winning side can point to one player in particular that contributed more than the rest and was probably the difference between first and second, Hoban (2014), Towell (2015) Horgan (2016), Maguire (2017), before this it was Fagan (2013), not sure who from Sligo in 2012, possibly Quigley, Twigg was the main man with Rovers in 2010 & 2011.
Cork are in poor form there is no doubt about that, but they have done enough to win it, their options upfront look very limited though.
The problem cork have is that you can't replace Maguire unless you get lucky and bring a guy in who suddenly hits form. There are no top notch strikers in loi and no loi club (maybe dundalk )can afford to bring in from abroad a proven goalscorer
The point made by oriel is spot on, I would put towell and Maguire above the others for Most influence closely followed by GOD
I've stayed away from all forums this weekend, twitter etc. Such a horrible performance Friday. I wanted to go home at half time. Its one thing not scoring goals, creating fewer/less quality chances. That makes sense. What doesn't make sense is allowing Rovers to bully us, or passing the ball out of play. We were appallingly bad on Friday. Easily our worst performance of the season. Great crowd, good goal from Gearoid... thats the end of the highlights. I've purged most of the night from my memory already. If we were to play Dundalk anytime soon we will be hammered. Not sure what has gone wrong. It can't just be Seani, as good as he was. Maybe the players think its wrapped up and mentally have shut off, maybe confidence is low. We need to copon soon if we're going to do anything in the cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I've no fear of losing the title, we would need to lose virtually every game and we're not Drogheda, but its may lose a bit of the gloss with this sort of performance, though I'll still celebrate it when it comes as its been so long.
It's not all that comparable, but the same thing happened to Limerick last season...once it became clear that the title was ours, we really slowed down and produced some poor performances, and particularly after we'd officially won it, we produced some awful performances.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
The difference was that even then, our squad was so much better that we still won almost all the games.
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Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Actually I think the cork boys and management included have it in their head that they want to win it against Dundalk in TC and humiliate them in some way.
As long as we win up in Limerick the start of that weekend. But the way dundalk are going at the moment, compared to us, it would take quite a performance to beat ye that night. Players won't need any motivation at home in front of what I'd hope would be a sold out crowdQuote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
Harps were even worse than last weeks cup performance. You know when you play backs against forwards into 1 goal and the backs can't score? That was the 2nd half here yet they looked comfortable and even managed to score a 2nd goal without having a shot as Morrissey walked the ball into the net without anyone going anywhere near him.. comical.
Am looking forward to seeing the Morrissey goal as from the away end it was just bewildering. The defence just seemed to melt and leave him there on his own with an open goal.
Unless I am mistaken a Cork win against Limerick would mean a draw against Dundalk (assuming it is the next game) would win the title on the night.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
In the unlikely event that Cork fail to beat Limerick then only a win against Dundalk would do the trick.
Either way it makes for an absorbing occasion with Dundalk determined to spoil the party - and RTE delighted to have a TV climax at last
On current form rte will be at the next match as well. At this rate cork will be on tv more than man u :)
Keeper called for it, defenders left it, keeper hesitated, Morrissey nipped to nick it off his fingertips.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
It would, but if this "a draw will do" creeps into the players' minds, they won't get that draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
tbh with Cork City would they be better off giving up on the FAI Cup and making sure they wrap up the league with a week to spare? sad to see the decline after SM and KOC leaving Cork.
Pah. I believe that's what's commonly called first world problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Having seen the highlights from Dundalk I wouldn't have any complaints about the penalty. The performance in the second half looked dreadful. We have to do much, much better if we want to stay up.
I wouldn't be so sure we will beat Limerick. If we don't we are in deep s#### and could possibly blow this league. Btw it's nice to see a Dundalk fan giving reasoned, non-controversial opinions on Cork city and not the childish sniping we see on FaceBook etc. Fair play to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I hope we have it won before the game against yerselves is played because ye would destroy us on current form. I don't know how I will feel when we finally win it to be honest. It will be a bit of an anti-climax I'd say because of the way we have fallen away. I feel a bit guilty saying that as there are loads of supporters of other clubs that would love to see their club win the league (and wouldn't care how they did it).
Drogheda are in deep ****, Cork are coasting to a league title.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebel
I think you're being hysterical. Cork will win league, you'll be grand.
To illustrate, let's assume that Dundalk win all their remaining games, finishing on 74 points. Let's assume their goal difference is astronomical.
Cork, currently on 70 points, will need five points to win the league.
There are home games to Derry and Bray, away games to Limerick, Bohs and Pat's. I'd single out Bray on the last day of the season as a certain win.
It is inconceivable that Cork will fail to pick up five points from those games.
Now, if ye could just get the thing settled before we come to visit some Tuesday night in October, that'd be swell.