Pity about the sending off was a good game up to that point . Clarke still our best player. Cork were good and good to see shep doing well. Europe and the cups still to play for for the rest of the league.
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Pity about the sending off was a good game up to that point . Clarke still our best player. Cork were good and good to see shep doing well. Europe and the cups still to play for for the rest of the league.
Couldn't really see how bad the tackle was from where I was sat. Reaction from some of the players said enough though.Clarke is some player for Rovers caused the defence all sorts of problems. Rovers defending from set pieces was shocking aswell we could have had 4 or 5 alone from corners.
Will be surprised if we still have him at the end of the season. As ollie would say on set pieces we need to WORK WORK WORK :)
Surprised at some of the Dundalk comments. We are blunt up front because of Fagans form, but JJ and Markey were tearing strips off some of the dundalk lads at times.
Both Dundalk goals stemmed from Pats mistakes and not as a result of any great Dundalk play. FTR...Dundalk were better but got some luck too.
We are in trouble and also getting no luck/breaks. We'll be fine though.
I would be surprised if Clarke is still here after July. The stand out player in the league for me this season even with Corks total dominance.
Good game in Bray last night. Bray caused us all sorts of problems in the first half with their runners from midfield but once we sorted that out at half time we were the better team in the second half. Nearly gave away a comical own goal right at the end mind.
3 huge games coming up for us next. Harps, Galway and Bohs.
A very typical Galway United game last night. For the 14th time in 16 League games we conceded the first goal. (One 0-0 draw and we took the lead v Sligo in a 1-1 draw). With that record it's amazing we're not tailed off at the bottom.
However again we performed strongly in the 2nd half got an early goal back but just couldn't get the equaliser. If we had a confident striker to score goals I think we'd be fine.
Bohs for their part played on the break after taking the lead early on and Lorcan Fitz scored a beautiful volley on the run for the 2nd goal. I wasn't overly impressed by them, though Keith Ward was busy and Dinny Corcoran is the type of player we need (or just get Vinny Faherty confident again).
Like the Pat's fan I'd be confident in us staying up but we need to stop conceding first in games.
Is there anyone who thinks their team is going to get relegated?!
3 teams are going to go but everyone down there seems to be capable of doing something. Strange not seeing someone marooned off the bottom.
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Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Course not, that's why we're supporters:). Eternal optimists.
I am worried though. Not so much by last night, better teams than us will lose to Dundalk this season, it the likes of Mondays result up in Finn Harps that has us seriously in the doo doo.
I'm guessing I was sitting close to you then because there was an oul fella across from me roaring abuse at McEleney all game and giving a continuous commentary on the game. It got very annoying very quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I thought Markey was excellent at times and Pats has sone great passages of play. I could easily have seen a Pats equaliser, particularly in the period after O'Donnell went off and Pats dominated midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by desaintsno.12
I thought they lacked a bit a patience at that point and left themselves too open to counter attacks when possession was lost (which happened too often).
Pats belief seems to evaporate after the McMillan goal.
It's difficult to see a side that plays as well as Pats going down, but this is not the year to be down the bottom end of the table.
Less of that!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
I think because everyone has a reasonable points total everyone has seen a few matches where their team have played well so are just thinking "if we play like that we won't go down"
From a Galway perspective we've still only lost 6 games so if we can just score more goals I think we'll be ok. Defensively we look more solid that last season.
If I were to guess now I would say Drogheda, Harps and maybe Bohs. I think if Sligo lose Sadlier ye could be in big trouble. Pat's should have the players to get out of it but as I've said all season you just wonder do the players who won the league only a few years ago have the fight for a relegation battle? Also they look poor at the back.
I have to say Harps back to back wins have me a bit worried. They started the season well but then had dropped to the bottom but are now out of it again. Safe to say every week things are going to change.
The bottom ten teams are all capable of beating each other, and are all equally inconsistent.
The stand out team playing Bohs this year was Pats and the worst team by a mile was Harps.
, Harps have won both games v Pats.
Exactly. We were so good against Bohs, but we haven't really replicated that since. The two results against Harps were really killer for us. Two wins there and the table would look very different. The only consolation this morning as we sit at the bottom of the pile is that it's still so tight. Couple of good results can change things dramatically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Possibly you might need to win multiple trophies first, steady on kiddo !Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
One thing that's strange about Pat's demise - even allowing for the fact that two wins in a row and they're fourth or whatever - is that there seems to be no hint that Buckley is under pressure? Pat's have been going backwards the past few years; partly that's budget I think, but partly the budget is because they're going backwards (CL -> EL -> no Europe at all)
It's funny, all the teams at the bottom seem really up and down. It's anyone guess who is going to go down.
For us, we've been horrendous at times. Completely brutal. But then, at other times, we're playing decent football, scoring goals, and winning important games. Injuries haven't helped us this season, but now we're getting back to a full squad slowly, I'm confident that we'll be fine come the end of the season.
Dreadful game of football. Drogheda worked really well at closing us down, basically leaving us with little option but to pass across the pitch, looking for an opening which never came.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog
Drogheda had a few chances in the second half too, could have nicked it.
I'm more and more convinced that, in away games, our only aim is to not lose. We just don't take risks. That would be all well and good, going away and getting draws, if we were winning at home, but we're not.
We're now nine games unbeaten, seven of which were draws. Says it all really.
Changing a manager during the season is a gamble, but sometimes worth taking. Sligo have got a better return I would say than Limerick( the delay in Limerick's case may be a factor). In Buckley's case I think the Pats team was really Sporting Fingal transferred to Inichore, so that team has come to the end of its life cycle. Conan Byrne was a sub last night I think, so did any other Fingal player start?
Worrying to read in today's press that Pats have not submitted a Strategic Plan to the FAI. How can clubs be helped if they do not know themselves where they want to go. Saw Trevor Crolly with Bohs last night, would he be on short list if they decide to replace Buckley?
I could be wrong but I believe he still has a year and a half on his contract so at least we'll get a fee though if anyone from the rovers board is reading this a 5 year contract for him and multi million quid release clause would be nice. Haha as ifQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
But on last night sounds like bar a moment of madness, poor set piece defence and Bradley not quite knowing what to say before matches yet there were a good few positives to take from it and when you remember that this is a young squad, young backroom team, a change of style, stuff like someone saying we've got 45 from 33 under Bradley that's not too bad, not rovers level good but not bad and can be built on. There's been a marked improvement in the team since round one and a similar improvement in round three would probably see us in Europe next year which I'll take, then just keep the squad together, add a few and push on next year.
Also I'd like to go on record that although rovers and Cork are fairly big rivals I'm happy it's them winning the league this year because they do everything right off and on the pitch it seems and honestly some dundalk fans (a minority I'm sure) have been growing more and more unbearable every year so nice to know they won't match our four in a row
I genuinely think Bradley is holding that Rovers team back. There seemed to be quality all over the pitch, but no structure, no plan, no basics like defending set plays etc. Some rovers players last night worked their asses off to keep Shep and Seani quiet, but to concede 3 from set plays must be gutting for them. With proper direction there's huge potential in that team, and Clarke is a star, but they'll go nowhere with the complete lack of any sort of discipline they showed.
Yeah we will get a decent fee for clarke and there are a good few coming behind him. Hopefully we can stiffen up the defence.
It's a similar squad to the one four-times league winner Pat Fenlon couldn't get the best from. Players have to look at themselves too. Coaching staff are culpable for not being able to defend set pieces but so are players, and the coaches aren't asking five players to get sent off in 15 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Sure and if it were a few players acting the idiot, you'd just blame the players. But it seems to be the whole team, that's a team culture thing and for me that's a management and coaching issue. The entire team thought taunting the city fans was the best course of action after the goal, after a week of your manager and players commenting about how City aren't that good. Like, that's a whole other level of stupidity, handing over the motivation like that. It led to the entire stadium on their feet for city, despite just going 1 down and absolutely drove our players on. That comes from the top down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I'm not saying the players are blameless, but a manager with a more sensible head on his shoulders would have to make a difference to the discipline issue I'd imagine
I dunno. Progress is Def happening last 4 games other than cork was beating dundalk galway and bohs and losing in derry thanks to awful ref / linesman. Top of my head I think 5 of the starters were there last year it does take time. I think bradley wI'll deliver but even JC didnt wi the league in his first year in charge :)
To be honest, I love that they did that, a bitta passion and pride that's been lacking pretty much since MON. The thing about Bradley is he's inexperienced, he needs a level head as his assistant I think, someone who's been there done that as a coach. But the thing about rover is, I remember talking to a former rovers player who won quite a bit with rovers and it was after pat had been sacked and we were going through who could get the job and the thing he said was you need balls to manage rovers and you also need to play football or else you won't succeed because the fans demand a lot more at rovers than other places. Bradley seems to tick both those boxes just needs to get a bit of experience and I'm sure he'll improve, you can actually see areas where he's improved already this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
I don't know if anyone said City weren't good, just that they were beatable. Which they were up to the red card. I mean congratulations on the record but other teams don't have to blow smoke up your holes either. The shushing thing was nonsense, no idea what they thought they would achieve.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
The decision in Maginn was correct, ball went out of play. Rovers were just quite poor that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Bradley's stop Maguire and you stop city rubbish was just huge ammunition again for the rest of the team. When you imply its a one man team, and claim you battered them, you're saying they're not very good. I don't expect any manager to come out complimenting us. Theres a big difference between that and the route Bradley went though. JC wouldn't even had to have given a team talk this week I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
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Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Even the self-confessed master of hubris is hardly claiming this accolade for a team that have not yet won a league title.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Depends what week you asked me. This week, we could push for Top 4. Next week if we lose, certs for the drop. So completely rational like all Football Supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
I found it embarrassing to be honest. To me it makes you out to be inferior to the opposition. Now it wasn't as bad as when Sligo did it, the whole team apart from the keeper jumped on each other, but I wouldn't like our lads to be doing such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
I don't necessarily agree with the actual shushing more what it shows, that there is a bitta fire in the bellies of the players. Like twigg sliding in front of the bohs fans, a bit stupid but shows that there's passion.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
Maybe this explains the number of red cards this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
You must have been mortified so when Shepherd did pretty much the same in Dalymount last month.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
probably does, the lads just need to learn how to channel it, bit like a bunch of young Rooneys is how i see it, once they learn theyll be better for it. I've just seen so many players come to rovers and not give a **** the last few seasons its refreshing to see players that do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Agree completely at least we have guys who give it 100% effort now. Maybe just dial it back to 99% ��
It wasn't as over the top, but yeah I didn't really like that either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Some Bradley supporters (is there really such a thing?) claim that he is a young manager who is learning as he goes.
http://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/ne...ayers-/id-602-Quote:
Cork City defender Ryan Delaney has admitted his teammates were determined to prove Stephen Bradley wrong after the Shamrock Rovers boss claimed the Leesiders aren’t as good as champions Dundalk.
He seems to be a very slow learner, as he keeps making the same type of mistakes with his pre-match comments to the media
I prefer it when players interact with the crowd. I reckon shep had a go at the bohs supporters as a response to being abused for once playing for rovers. The player fan relationship positive and negative is one of the great things about our league.