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It's pretty distasteful alright, but the Tories and their backers in the media have always preferred to focus on the personal rather than policies, because their policies aren't in most people's interests. Nasty politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Serious question...is it known if the London Mayor's parents are first cousins? I understand that many of the Pakistani immigrant children in England are in that situation? Up to 90%??!!
I sadly have to agree with this piece. Where's Diane Abott's brilliance when you need her.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rotect-us.html
Have you read somewhere that Khan's parents were first cousins or are you just asking if they were? I'm not aware that they were, nor can I find any reference to such being the case, so I would say it's unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
And where did you get the 90 per cent figure? Generally, the figure for the percentage of Pakistani immigrants in the UK who marry a first cousin is said to be around 55 per cent.
Molotov cocktail thrown into restaurant in Paris suburb tonight.
Katie Hopkins? Seriously?!Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
She's like Ann Coulter, not PC but you can't deny how often she is right. She always ends up right. And the more she is right the more often she gets fired for saying the un-PC truths. Which is ultimately counter productive to society. She also makes me laugh for being so self depreciating at times ( "I look like a tampon with knobs" was a recent quip)...a personality trait you rarely, if ever, see on the pompous, over educated limousine left.
They take themselves SO seriously. Coulter is really genuinely funny at times too. Contrast that with people like Dan Rather and the like. He "resigned" in shame for making up that story about Bush but is still out there spewing nonsense pretending to be an elder statesman. That's what I love about news anchors. They get paid to read off a teleprompter. None of them write anything they say. So anyone who can read can do their job. It's so silly.
Caveat: One time Rather showed up for work with a black eye. He claimed a "deranged maniac" came up to him out of nowhere and shouted "What's the frequency Kenneth" and punched him in the face. REM wrote a song about it. He was terrible at lying.
Ann Coulter is a hypocrite who purports to stand up for free speech and the expression of unpopular, impolitic or "un-PC" views. She'll have us believe she loathes "political correctness" for its supposed chilling effect on expression. In reality, she only believes in "free expression" so long as that expression falls within the realm of what she deems to be acceptable, tolerable or politically correct. See her exceptionally illiberal and vindictive outrage in reaction to Colin Kaepernick's US anthem stance, for example. She professes to stand up for the marginalised; only problem is that, in her warped conception of reality, she inexplicably thinks some mythical "silent majority" represent society's marginalised rather than those who are actually on society's periphery.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
She was taking herself very seriously in relation to Kaepernick (presumably because his stance threatened the political and cultural fabric of the privileged bubble she inhabits), but I guess, on many other matters, she enjoys the luxury of not having to take things as seriously as those who don't share the same level of privilege as she does or as those who are at the butt of her prejudice and who suffer discrimination or ill treatment as a result of it. Life tends to be a bit more serious for those who find themselves closer to rock bottom. I'm sure Coulter has a lot less to be worrying about from her lofty perch. She has the luxury to self-deprecate, to dispense with serious critical thinking and can peddle her nonsense opinions without fear. Whilst others suffer the consequences of her nasty bile, she gets book deals.
Katie Hopkins is little more than a professional troll who evidently craves attention in order to satisfy some deep urge or need to feel relevant and empowered. Besides entirely lacking any sense of dignity, she presents simplistic and lazy "solutions" to complex social issues (as part of her "telling it as it is" schtick) that appear superficially attractive to people because they play on their primal fears and insecurities.
Poor people who've been experiencing a squeeze on their wallets due to the neoliberal programme of austerity are particularly vulnerable to her "charms". Instead of holding power to account and calling out the real reasons for poverty, inequality, crime and social unrest, the likes of Hopkins instead focus their contemptible energies on convincing the poor, unemployed, miseducated and disenfranchised that some "smelly", "animalistic" or "threatening" group of even poorer people on the social rung below them - immigrants (who also conveniently happen to look a bit different from them) - are why they're so poor and are why they're experiencing a relative diminishing in social status as the gulf between Britain's poorest and Britain's richest widens exponentially.
Check out this interview of Hopkins by the BBC's Andrew Neil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPGJs_skkgI
Personally, I find Neil to be a bit of a churlish tw*t at times, but he does at least do a good job in exposing the contradictions, incoherence and ultimate vacuity of Hopkins' nonsense. She "always ends up right"? I don't think so. Neil runs rings around her.
Essentially, Hopkins' arguments are base appeals to prejudice and caricature. She's a bigot who scapegoats visible minorities and society's most vulnerable. She may appear to have guts, but, in reality, she's a coward who prefers to take the easy route of punching down rather than up. That she deflects attention away from those in power and away from those in whose favour society's wealth is disproportionately distributed is a convenient bonus for such people, or maybe that's part of the reason why they reward her with columns and air-time in the first place... Who knows?
French police believe this was a botched robbery: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...ktail-10606790Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
I once had my picture taken with REM. I often show people; That's me in the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
Danny here are some new stats on migrant crime:
https://heatst.com/world/report-sex-...e-in-one-year/
What's your point exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
If you're trying, once again, to portray sex crime as a "Muslim immigration problem" - which is the impression I'm getting - then see this post in the Brexit thread where I previously dealt with that grossly misleading depiction specifically: http://foot.ie/threads/213443-Brexit...=1#post1919675
That post was actually in reply to something dubious you yourself had posted then too, although, for whatever reason, you declined to respond to the points and questions I'd posed...
Can I also encourage you to read this piece about what happened in Cologne during the 2015-into-2016 New Year's Eve celebrations?: https://thebaffler.com/latest/cologn...uslim-refugees
As Abi Wilkinson points out, anti-Muslim and anti-refugee advocates often gallantly claim to enjoy confronting "the truth" and "difficult questions", so how about this one: Why don't you admit that many of the faults you appear to be ascribing to other cultures are equally a part of our own Western culture? If you want to have the debate and discuss difficult questions, let's not shy away from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abi Wilkinson
Go away with your facts, Danny. I'm going to ignore this and bang on about immigrants some more and I suggest everybody else does too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Uh...the article says the police didn't comment on the motive behind the attack.
As mentioned in the Mirror's article, French journalist Clément Lanot reported from the scene - with police, fire and emergency services present and standing next to him (see one of the numerous photos that he tweeted below) - that it was a botched robbery.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCEPxqtXYAAGiM5.jpg
He tweeted that the fire was linked to a "braquage qui a mal tourné", which literally means a "hold-up/stick-up that went wrong".
News.com.au also reported that "a molotov cocktail [was] thrown among guests at a Paris restaurant, injuring 12, after staff foiled a robbery attempt".
The attempted robbery has been reported as a fact. I'd assumed then that that would have been the thinking of police too, considering they were clearly at the scene, even if they haven't publicly speculated as to the reason for the robbery. Perhaps my assumption was incorrect and police aren't sure if it was a robbery attempt. I don't think that's very likely based on what I've read about the incident, but, if so, maybe I should have been more circumspect and should have just said instead that the incident was thought by those at the scene, or at least by one journalist at the scene, to be a botched robbery.
Anyway, the important point is that there's been no suggestion that it was explicitly politically-motivated or related to extremist Islamism, which is what I thought you might have been implying by posting news of the incident in this thread. Indeed, News.com.au stated that "[h]eavily armed police were among the responders, but the attack was soon established not to be terror related".
Sounds like terrorism then alright. Sorry, as you were.
From what I've read, it wasn't a physical molotov cocktail - they walked in fired a tear gas canister then doused the bar in petrol before lighting it. There's reports of it being a botched robbery and also speculation it was a punishment attack by a local gang.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
No suspicions of terrorism expressed by anyone through. Except Americans, who always seem to know more than the rest of us.
You gonna take this sh*t from him LeTang ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Don't even get me started on Limerickians...
There once was a woman named Alice
Who used a dynamite stick as a phallus.
They found her vagina
Up in North Carolina,
And the rest of poor Alice in Dallas.
How xenophobic against those poor Americans you all have become lads. Very sad and disheartening. Against everything Foot.ie has ever stood for. Paul O'Shea would be ashamed of you God Rest his soul.
Post Office won't go into high immigration area due to safety concerns:
https://heatst.com/world/danish-post...d-to-go-there/
And: The Tower fire was revenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9LexAusBQk
When did this thread just become about immigrants?
He might be terrible at lying, but the assault was proven, and a man arrested for it, in 1997: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Ra...requency.3F.22Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
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In 1997, a TV critic writing in the New York Daily News solved the mystery, publishing a photo of the alleged assailant, William Tager, who received a 12 1⁄2-to-25-year prison sentence for killing NBC stagehand Campbell Montgomery outside The Today Show studio in 1994. Rather confirmed the story: "There's no doubt in my mind that this is the person." New York District Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau said, "William Tager's identity as the man who attacked Mr. Rather was established in the course of an investigation by my office." Tager claimed he thought television networks were beaming signals into his brain. When he murdered the stagehand, Tager was trying to force his way into a NBC studio with a weapon, in order to find out the frequency the networks were using to attack him, so that he could block it. Tager was paroled in October 2010 and is believed to be living in New York City
That was definitely the guy who killed the stage hand but I doubt he was the one who punched DR....supposedly it was an angry husband. Don't even get me started on Morgenthau.
Finley Peter Dunne once said that the job of good journalism was to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. This sort of gutter journalism is just dressed-up immigrant-bashing. I would suggest that crime and safety concerns have most likely arisen primarily due to inequality issues within Danish society - or due to the poverty, unemployment and sense of alienation experienced by the inhabitants of that area in particular, in other words - rather than some inherent moral or cultural failing on the part of demonised immigrants who happen to make up a significant proportion of the population in the poverty-stricken area most likely on account of their marginalisation and exclusion from the Danish social and economic mainstream. Inequality, poverty and alienation are direct causes of higher petty crime rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
Just scrutinising the details of this story a little closer, I note that Postnord took the decision not to deliver post in Vollsmose due to two of their delivery workers having been threatened and one of their vans broken into. I haven't even seen any evidence to suggest immigrants were responsible for the threats or the break-in. Not that that would justify tarring all immigrants with the same brush anyway.
An understandably angry member of the public is vox popped and engages in some impulsive (and admittedly paranoid) conspiracy theorising after an utterly disgraceful and politically-preventable tragedy. What's your point? Are her comments really that noteworthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
Several people injured after a van ploughed into Muslims observing Ramadan outside a mosque in Finsbury Park in Jeremy Corbyn's constituency: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40322960
I assume the usual suspects must have encountered internet trouble on their way to post this so I've done them the liberty.
KrisLetang, as the others have said, there is no indication that the "no-go" for the postal service in Denmark is anything to do with immigration.
You might be interested to have a look at these google search results: https://www.google.com/search?q=fire...hrome&ie=UTF-8
The fire brigade have a major problem with being called out and attacked by youths who are overwhelmingly white and Irish.
Certain bridges over the M50 in Dublin have had to be retroactively covered in mesh, because white Irish people were throwing stones into 120km/h traffic and causing a threat to life.
The common factor is almost always social deprivation and alienation, not Islam, or any other religion.
In Derry and Belfast, even ambulances tending to patients have been pelted with missiles and ambulance crews have been abused whilst on duty: https://www.derrynow.com/news/ambula...h-today/139418
It's something that has been happening for years: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/360831.stm
Such instances of anti-social behaviour have absolutely nothing to do with immigration or Islam, considering those engaged in such behaviour locally are white Irish (or white British). As Peadar says, it's social deprivation and alienation that fuels it.
Forget the north, that happens here. Bus Eireann stopped a route going down the Hyde Road in Limerick a few years ago because of "anti-social" attacks from local morons.
Peadar and Danny have built quite a convincing case that we need to stop immigration from the northside and Derry.
How can a (largely) self segregating society say they feel sad or violent about alienation? I was listening to Mark Steyn guest host for Rush on the radio last week. He said the vibrant Jewish and Gay communities of East London were run out by Muslim communities. Is there any truth to that? Really asking anyone but Danny BC I already know his answer. Muslim countries seem largely self segregated. To say the least. Isn't it fairly obvious the trend tends to continue when they move to the West? There is a huge problem with the Somali community in Minnesota...they don't like gay people and are harassing them. MSM is trying desperately to keep the lid down on it. But there are videos out.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Christ. Where do you start with this nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
What were you expecting me to say? Do you actually expect anyone else to say anything other than "no", considering Mark Steyn was so obviously talking total baloney?Quote:
Originally Posted by KrisLetang
What do you mean when you say Muslim society and Muslim countries are "largely self-segregating"? Like how Zionist Jews have created a Jewish state in Israel, you mean?Quote:
Muslim countries seem largely self segregated. To say the least. Isn't it fairly obvious the trend tends to continue when they move to the West? There is a huge problem with the Somali community in Minnesota...they don't like gay people and are harassing them. MSM is trying desperately to keep the lid down on it. But there are videos out.
When migrants/refugees move to a new country generally, they're naturally in a rather vulnerable and precarious position given their general lack of social, cultural, political and economic roots or connections in that new country. Thus, it is entirely common for them to concentrate together in higher numbers for security, safety, solidarity and to maintain a sense of community. Grouping together is a means of mitigating marginalisation and potential alienation, although it doesn't necessarily prevent the experience of such either. Of course, this doesn't mean that Muslim migrants or refugees can't or don't want to integrate, nor does it mean mutual respect and compromise aren't possible.
This phenomenon isn't something that is unique to Muslims either. There are areas in the UK - Kilburn in London, for example - that are historically considered to be "Irish areas". There are other areas in the UK historically regarded as "Jewish areas". Don't you have the same along the eastern US seaboard with "Irish areas" and "Italian areas", for example?
Muslim attitudes in relation to homosexuality are complex, but do you think homophobia is a problem that is unique to Islam and Muslims? Doesn't the Catholic Church too regard homosexual acts to be sinful? Far-right white nationalist groups also often express profoundly homophobic views.
An interesting piece on the largely-ignored (suppressed?) voice of Salman Abedi's sister when it has come to the mainstream British media's "analysis" of why the Manchester Arena attack happened: https://www.peacenews.info/node/8747...pearing-sister
I was totally unaware of her words until I came across this piece a short while ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milan Rai