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11/02/2005, 11:39 AM
Buile Shuibhne

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Why are we having to find this out through various club websites? Can the FAI not make an announcement as to who has passed and who hasn't? Seeing as the clubs were informed last night, there's no reason the FAI can't announce the outcomes. But there's nothing on the website, nothing on Aertel, nothing anywhere. Why?

RTE are probably trawling our websites too for news of this?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2005/0211/eircomleague.html
11/02/2005, 11:45 AM
tallaghtfornia

license appeals results

Quote:

Originally Posted by harpskid

Clubs to receive licence so far

Premier

Finn Harps
Drogheda United
Shelbourne
Cork City
St Pats
Bray Wanderers

First Division

Galway United
Athlone Town

I think u will find that rovers got their licence, big rumour that longford havent,lets hope it all gets sorted and every club get the go ahead, roll on season 2005!!!!!!
11/02/2005, 11:54 AM
trevy

Waterford United got theirs too.Its on the clubs official website.
11/02/2005, 11:57 AM
pete

Ok so no club has confirmed they failked appeal yet. Lets assume that some clubs ahve failed. What does this mean for setting fixtures for new season? Can clubs appeal an appeal?

:confused:

As usual nada on FAI website.
11/02/2005, 12:07 PM
noby

FAI press conference 3.00pm today re licence appeals
11/02/2005, 12:15 PM
monutdfc

Mons :)
11/02/2005, 12:16 PM
Hibs4Ever

i MIGHT be wrong, but thought i just heard on Newstalk Radio that Dublin City failed. They definitely said something about this club while talking about the license appeals
11/02/2005, 12:20 PM
tiktok

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER

i MIGHT be wrong, but thought i just heard on Newstalk Radio that Dublin City failed. They definitely said something about this club while talking about the license appeals

Rumours are that Kildare County, Longford Town, Dublin City and Dundalk have all failed in their bids. I don't know what that'll mean to those clubs if it's true.
11/02/2005, 12:34 PM
�anna

Home Farm have confirmed they didn't get one according to soccercentral but unfortunately it's only because of outstanding paperwork, and it should be sorted
11/02/2005, 12:42 PM
pineapple stu

Article on eleven-a-side claiming that the Premier clubs who haven't made an announcement yet - Waterford, Bohs, Longford, UCD and Rovers - have all failed. Just to clarify, this is complete nonsense and shouldn't be believed. As far as I know, UCD will get a licence; am trying to confirm this at the moment.
11/02/2005, 12:46 PM
pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by �anna

Home Farm have confirmed they didn't get one according to soccercentral but unfortunately it's only because of outstanding paperwork, and it should be sorted

I'm sure i'd have a different view if was City but surely clubs can't be allowed to fail on missing paperwork indefinitely? Why can't the licening committee just make fone call to club & ask them to deliver certain documents in person?

:rolleyes:
11/02/2005, 12:48 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy

RTE are probably trawling our websites too for news of this?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2005/0211/eircomleague.html

That's a joke that they have to do that. The 3:00 press conference sounds like something the FAI just threw together after people contacting them all morning. Maybe I'm being cynical here, but...idiots! :rolleyes:
11/02/2005, 12:50 PM
Hibs4Ever

Quote:

Originally Posted by �anna

Home Farm have confirmed they didn't get one according to soccercentral but unfortunately it's only because of outstanding paperwork, and it should be sorted

How many appeals does a club get? :confused:
11/02/2005, 12:54 PM
gufct

It looks fairly definite

that only 9 clubs got licences 7 premier and 2 1st division.This makes the league AGM very interesting tomorrow lets all wait for the big fudge again which will be another nail in the coffin of el football.

This is the 2nd year that clubs have ignored the warnings but after last years fiasco I can see the FAI letting them all off the hook again.The UEFA Licence is the only way to regain any credibility for our league if it is not enforced the clubs who are guilty of reckless trading and putting their own clubs in danger of folding will be the ones who are rewarded.

Dont blame the FAI or the Licencing Committe the problems are entirely of the clubs own making.
11/02/2005, 12:54 PM
noby

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Article on eleven-a-side claiming that the Premier clubs who haven't made an announcement yet - Waterford, Bohs, Longford, UCD and Rovers - have all failed. Just to clarify, this is complete nonsense and shouldn't be believed.

As previously stated, Waterford have made an announcement, and have received a licence. So yes, complete nonsense.

In defence of the FAI :rolleyes: "official" notification was by post today, so maybe 3pm was set to ensure each clup got the letter.
11/02/2005, 12:57 PM
Clones Road Cas

Quote:

Originally Posted by gufct

that only 9 clubs got licences 7 premier and 2 1st division.This makes the league AGM very interesting tomorrow lets all wait for the big fudge again which will be another nail in the coffin of el football.

This is the 2nd year that clubs have ignored the warnings but after last years fiasco I can see the FAI letting them all off the hook again.The UEFA Licence is the only way to regain any credibility for our league if it is not enforced the clubs who are guilty of reckless trading and putting their own clubs in danger of folding will be the ones who are rewarded.

Dont blame the FAI or the Licencing Committe the problems are entirely of the clubs own making.

We got ours I know. Agree with you that this is a club issue. The criteria are not that bad, hard work involved but we all say we want a professionally run league.
11/02/2005, 1:00 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by noby

In defence of the FAI :rolleyes: "official" notification was by post today, so maybe 3pm was set to ensure each clup got the letter.

But sure the post comes at 8 or 9 in the morning! Seven hours to open a letter?! And weren't clubs informed by phone yesterday?

Meant to mention that about Waterford - cheers for pointing it out. Nice to see how hard it was for you to type the words "In defence of the FAI" though! :p

Edit - from the Longford forum from BreakingNews.ie - we've gotten our licence.
11/02/2005, 1:03 PM
noby

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

But sure the post comes at 8 or 9 in the morning!

Try living in the sticks :D
11/02/2005, 1:05 PM
Bald Student

Are firts division clubs allowed to apply for premier licences? How do we decide who gets promoted if a premier club fails?
11/02/2005, 1:05 PM
gufct

Dont take this as Gospel lads

It now looks like four teams didnt get any licence Dundalk,Longford,Kildare County & Limerick and only 4 Premier Teams got Premier Licences Shels,Harps,Drogheda and one other.All the rest got 1st Division licences only allegdly.
11/02/2005, 1:06 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by noby

Try living in the sticks :D

Waterford the sticks?! Ah now!

Yeah, okay, the post can come a bit later down the way, but the current situation is a nonsense. Sure Harps are the first ones here to post notification at 9:00am - think Ballybofey is about the most "in the sticks" that you'll get in the eL!
11/02/2005, 1:08 PM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bald Student

Are first division clubs allowed to apply for premier licences? How do we decide who gets promoted if a premier club fails?

No. And apparently we don't. There's apparently no power of relegation/promotion. A three-point penalty would be fair - not as drastic as relegation (which would probably so more harm than good as budgets have already been drawn up and contracts agreed on their basis), but would show that the eL and the FAI are at least taking the issue seriously.
11/02/2005, 1:08 PM
SeanDrog

Go on the Drogs :)
11/02/2005, 1:12 PM
A face

Check www.irishfootballonline.com for updates on this

Comments from Clubs to follow shortly ....
11/02/2005, 1:13 PM
gufct

Oh yes there is the threat of relegation

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

No. And apparently we don't. There's apparently no power of relegation/promotion. A three-point penalty would be fair - not as drastic as relegation (which would probably so more harm than good as budgets have already been drawn up and contracts agreed on their basis), but would show that the eL and the FAI are at least taking the issue seriously.

And for those who dont get a licence at all the Leinster Senior league beckons fact not fantasy.
11/02/2005, 1:17 PM
pineapple stu

Apologies...give the final word to Mr T, who I know knows what he's talking about!...

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Originally Posted by Mr_T

If one or more Premier clubs do not get a Premier license they could be blocked from compete in the Premier, BUT a First Divsion Club (incl the team relegated from the Premier) could not replace them as they did not qualify in competition to play in the Premier Division.
11/02/2005, 1:22 PM
gufct

I respect Trevors Opinion

but you will find out he is wrong on this.How would a 3 point deduction matter if only one team goes down some slap on the wrist that would be.Action has to taken before next weeks AGM or the league will be kicking off next year.
11/02/2005, 1:25 PM
pineapple stu

If you finish two points off Europe, it'll matter!

Three points penalty and a fine seems to be a common penalty - ask Kaiserslautern.
11/02/2005, 1:25 PM
SeanDrog

On what aspect is Trev wrong?
11/02/2005, 1:38 PM
pineapple stu

Whether or not teams can (read: will) get promoted/relegated on the basis of the UEFA Licence.
11/02/2005, 1:44 PM
exile

taken from dundalk.com

Dundalk Football Club expect to receive their UEFA License early next week after discussions this morning between CEO Sean Connolly and Bob Breen of the FAI. "We are practically there and only have to comply with a number of small legal issues in order to obtain the license. These issues should not take long to resolve and may even be completed by the end of the day".

Issues to be resolved
The awarding of the UEFA License has been delayed until the following two areas are addressed:

1. The receipt of an Auditor's Certificate to Practice.
2. Confirmation by the club's auditors of an existing standing order.

Speaking to dundalkfc.com, the CEO added that "it is unfortunate that this has held up the awarding of the license but we are happy with our progress. It has been a long and arduous process and I expect that these minor problems will be ironed out quickly and that another piece of the jigsaw for our plans at Dundalk FC will be set in place."

what i cant seem to work out the deadline has passed so the clubs get another appeal/ deadline ????
is that fair ???
11/02/2005, 1:57 PM
tiktok

Quote:

Originally Posted by gufct

...that only 9 clubs got licences, 7 premier and 2 1st.

I count 11 as of lunchtime (8 and 3)

Finn Harps
Shelbourne
Drogheda United
Bray wanderers
Derry City
Cork City
St.Pat's
Waterford United

Athlone Town
Galway United
Monaghan United

The only clubs that have admitted that they did not get the licence today (so far) have been Longford and Dundalk from what I can gather, though there seems to be concern about Kildare, DCFC and surprisingly...Bohs.

That eleven-a-side article says waterford have failed, though AFAIK they've confirmed they've received theirs.
11/02/2005, 2:01 PM
Terry

I think

dublin city haven't got a license as well?

ONE thing that is for sure is that the league has found itself back in the same place it was last year, in a total f*cking mess !!! I think we should nominate the chimps in dublin zoo to run the league next year!! surely they could do a better job :rolleyes:
11/02/2005, 2:03 PM
tallaghtfornia

[QUOTE=tiktok]I count 11 as of lunchtime (8 and 3)

Finn Harps
Shelbourne
Drogheda United
Bray wanderers
Derry City
Cork City
St.Pat's
Waterford United

add shamrock rovers to this list, confirmed as gettin their license on all news stations
11/02/2005, 2:04 PM
Ash

Seeing as we got awarded a Premier Standard licence and
Longford have no licence at all, I think we should take their
place in the Premier :p

Ooops 11 a side webside got i wrong, we got a First Division
licence.
11/02/2005, 2:06 PM
Schumi

[QUOTE=tallaghtfornia]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiktok

I count 11 as of lunchtime (8 and 3)

Finn Harps
Shelbourne
Drogheda United
Bray wanderers
Derry City
Cork City
St.Pat's
Waterford United

add shamrock rovers to this list, confirmed as gettin their license on all news stations

And UCD.

Newstalk report that Home Farm and three other clubs have apparently failed.
11/02/2005, 2:08 PM
gufct

Its not the league or the FAI who is at

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry

dublin city haven't got a license as well?

ONE thing that is for sure is that the league has found itself back in the same place it was last year, in a total f*cking mess !!! I think we should nominate the chimps in dublin zoo to run the league next year!! surely they could do a better job :rolleyes:

fault Brian it is the clubs fault full stop.This is the 2nd year in a row some clubs have chosen to ignore the criteria and as ive said before the licence is the only way forward if clubs wont adapt they have to be sanctioned.
11/02/2005, 2:11 PM
patsh

Bohs have got their's according tohttp://gypsiesweb.proboards14.com/in...num=1108126443
11/02/2005, 2:14 PM
Terry

Quote:

Originally Posted by gufct

fault Brian it is the clubs fault full stop.This is the 2nd year in a row some clubs have chosen to ignore the criteria and as ive said before the licence is the only way forward if clubs wont adapt they have to be sanctioned.

ya, but it is up to the league to punish the teams that continue to ignore the criterias instead of letting them appeal there failed appeals!!!!

who is Brian???
11/02/2005, 2:16 PM
wws

Quote:

Originally Posted by patsh

Bohs have got their's according tohttp://gypsiesweb.proboards14.com/in...num=1108126443

.........extremely dodgy if true

Farrelly hasnt the qualifications - and hey - wot a tax bill!

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