Nah, he's still a c***, regardless of the US's pathetic political 'system'.
And 'change'? Only for the worse.
Based on bigotry, hatred, hypocrisy, ignorance and prejudice FFS.
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Nah, he's still a c***, regardless of the US's pathetic political 'system'.
And 'change'? Only for the worse.
Based on bigotry, hatred, hypocrisy, ignorance and prejudice FFS.
You're making the mistake of focussing on one of his campaign issues and ignoring the rest and ignoring the social context. I'm not trying to defend Trump or say he's a saint as he clearly is not. But you have to try and understand why he appeals to a lot of republicans, democrats, independents, blacks, whites, Latinos and Asians all voted for him in large numbers. It goes beyond the one dimension we have been force fed by the MSM and that has been greedily swallowed down by the majority of the sheeple.
I don't think anybody's really disputing the fact that people are turning to Trump because they're fed up or alienated by or even excluded by mainstream politics.
It's all the other **** that goes with it.
But then you have to say is there a whole load of other sh*t that comes with HRC and the answer there too is a resounding yes even if some of her sh*t is deemed more acceptable for some reason. Yknow the cool stuff like ignoring rules, bribery and warmongering.
So for most it's a case of pick your poison. Most went for change at any cost. And it's understandable.
I have no time for HRC so I wouldn't waste my time mounting a defence.
I'd draw a pretty clear line between warmongering, which every US president does, and the sort of race-baiting and bullish misogyny Trump indulges in. And I think voting for Trump requires tacit acceptance of those things in a way it doesn't if you'd voted for Clinton or Romney or whoever.
I expected Clinton to win, because I completely underestimated the sale of the disenfranchisement, and rather than alienating potential voters, Trump's comments appealed to them. I posted this elsewhere:
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I read a good line in a piece somewhere about those people in the rust belt who voted for Trump.
It was something like this: After years of letters that were never replied to and phone calls that were never returned, Trump is a brick through the window.
He sensed the huge amount of anger and disenfranchisement out there, and capitalised on it. I still think he's the last person, and will be surrounded by the last people, that you would expect to do anything about it.
Whatever about his personal charisma, it says a lot for Obama's legacy that, after 8 years of a Democratic presidency (notwithstanding his being hindered by Republicans), people were ready to elect somebody Trump.
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Originally Posted by thischarmingman
COPY and PASTE, gotta love it!!!:p
Absolutely delighted Trump won, another big F U to the establishment. I mean how bad does Clinton have to be to lose to Trump! What were the Democratic party thinking.
All the mud slinging about "racism" and all the rest doesn't hide the fact that ordinary people want a change, even if that change could be a horror ride.
Also isn't it nice that we wont have a war with Russia till at least next summer......
Well, should I rewrite every bill in a more colloquial way? Shuffle things around?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Just tell us what you think.....that usually works.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
Hearing the BBC world service on the background from Dublin Castle......nice of Mary Lou to criticise FG over Enda Kenny's uturn, while forgetting about the time Dear Donald visited an IRA fundraiser with Gerry......
Complete drivel BC.
Informative contribution there, thank you:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfman
It's a historical fact in democracies that when people feel alienated and are getting hit financially, they don't vote for the middle ground but for the extremes.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
There are also a lot of examples of there being more than 1 swing. If Trump fails to live up to the hooge expectations he has set people up with there is a distinct possibility of a massive lurch to the left and a Sanders style democrat being elected in 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Rough translation: Groups of people are retarded.
To be fair to Sanders he's hardly a radical. He'd be vaguely centre-left here.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
He's radical for the States though.
Ohh most definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
If Trump Builds a wall - then Canada does the same - we should all pitch in for a lid.
Trump took office on 20/01, I've moved posts from after that date here.