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That'll definitely be the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Seeing as Shels have been northside for decades, they may as well go further north to Swords. If Cabinteely is in the south-eastern part of Dublin it should mean there will be a club in the 3 administrative counties and two either side of the Liffey in the city council catchment area + the students.
The students are in Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
As it might come as a surprise, very few of us Dubs look to our council as a reference point for our cultural identity. While there might be a certain sense, a Fingal identity to some extent (hurling, cricket) there is in its hoop such a differentiation as to use them as reasons to divvy up our teams.
And as for Shels "might as well move to Swords" crap, give over the shiite talk would ya.
Yep, this!! The Dublin council borders dont carry anything like the weight of our county/provincial borders.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Imho the most important element to look at when thinking about any new/relocating LOI clubs would be population and making sure you're not too close to an already existing club.
Might as well move is in the same context as someone earlier suggesting moving back the other side of the Liffey. There's such a thing as rolling discussion. In terms of divvying up teams, that's not the point. If Shels are looking at moving, and they've looked towards Fingal before, it is shrewd to move where they will have the sole support of a council. It's not the only factor to consider. If they've no desire to move there naturally it will not happen! Enjoy watching your local LoI team in action and have a nice day! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Fingal council were certainly in favour of having a LOI team back in the day when they were talking about a stadium in Swords, but whether that desire still exists is another matter entirely. I haven't heard anything about it in years...
The inquest in Fingal CO CO over the Sporting Fingal debacle still sends shudders through the officials, so would not hold my breath waiting on Council to get involved in football any time soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
The FAI and Dublin Co Co want Shels to move into Dalymunt. So don't expect any assistance in maintaining Tolka Park from those quarters.
Shels felt they had leverage by refusing to move to Tolka (Council, initially indicated it as both teams or none) and Shels refusal seriously risked the existence of Bohs (who needed the deal to pay off Zurich).
I suspect, as do most people, that Shels will eventually be forced into moving into Dalymount. The delay in doing so 9unless they have a viable option) will hurt whatever potential they have to develop a fan base as the revamped stadium will become linked solely with Bohs. they would be better to move now and try and put down some roots with a view to attract some of the 'new support' that will be attracted to the new shiny stadium when it eventually comes to fruition.
Won't happen as long as the people who live there live there.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Moving to Irishtown/Ringsend has merit and is worth discussing from the POV that we're from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
The inevitability of moving to Dalyer is that, inevitable.
I'm sure we'll come around to it eventually. We're always slow on the uptake down in Drumcondra.
You'll note I said uptake, not "on the take". We were great at that.
What ground would be the best option? Shelbourne park perhaps, or Irishtown stadium?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Otherwise, what would the Shels faithful think of moving even further south of Shelbourne itself, possibly into the RDS or even Donnybrook stadium? Either or them would seem like a decent location, right in the heart of the south side surrounded by massive population, and either of those stadia would be lovely for a LOI club. Donnybrook might be pushing it as it's about a mile south of Shelbourne, but it's still probably closer to Shelbourne than Drumcondra.
On a slightly related topic. Does anyone know why Rovers didn't make the RDS their permanent home after Milltown? I know they had a relatively stable 5/6 year spell there in the 90s and it's probably no coincidence that they won their only league of the homeless era there. It's in a very advantageous location for a LOI club. Could they not afford the rent, or did the RDs society not want a permanent football tenant?
Moving into the RDS will be like Limerick in Thomond Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
I'd be curious to know if Shels core members and supporters were voting on Dalymount Park or moving back southside, which way would they most likely go?
Maybe they could play at a smaller stadium and just use the RDS for their European games 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Donnybrook is only about 2km from the Belfield Bowl. What do you propose doing with UCD if Shels were to move there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
This thread is heading into farce now.
Shels for Donnybrook, UCD for Swords. Cabo for Cabinteely. Cork for France. Ice for the Eskimos.
Oman for Limerick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Gaza for Dundalk.
Donnybrook is a non-runner, it has a top class rugby astorturf now, not suitable for football. The clubs are also extremely protective of it. RDS is far too big for a LOI club (the main stands in the new Dalymount are going to be waaaay too big also at 4,500, gonna be an atmosphere-killer but sin scéal eile).
In terms of the four options mentioned above, I think the two most likely ones (ground share with Bohs, and stay rotting in Tolka) would be terrible for Shelbourne. For the club to thrive, there needs to be a change. I know that it's not the cup of tea for every Shels fans but there are hundreds of thousands of potential football fans in north Dublin just there for the taking.
Personally I think the most obvious next move for shelbourne is into the leinster senior league. :good:
Shelbourne for Kerry! Two birds with the one stone!! ;) G'wan the Kingdom!!! :D
Merge, obviously. Shelbourne-UCD could play as SUCD - it'd be a headline writer's dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by GCdfc
For the club launch/Euro campaign - SUCD Off/in Europe
For relegation woes - SUCD into Dogfight
For the captain's honesty after a bad game - We SUCD!
For FAI fines, league fee etc - SUCD Dry by FAI
I can only see it as a winner.
A new Fingal-UCD project would be better I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
UCD take over DCU and then we can have a Fingal UCD team.
If we merged with Bohs, would we have to move to Drogheda?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Big pike. Small pond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
I don't think I could survive the inevitable apoplexy.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Now, Charlie, expecting to get both of those is a little bit greedy, don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
...would both your fans not object ?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu