Wasn't at the Gers when we played them was he???? Millwall wasn't it..... :confused:
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Wasn't at the Gers when we played them was he???? Millwall wasn't it..... :confused:
Is it Rory Delap? He was linked with Rangers before, but decided against moving. My money is on Delap anyway.
Well, he played for against Ireland in August just after his move from Rangers, before he had played a game for Millwall. Rooney asked people not to boo and low and behold, there were no boo's.Quote:
Originally Posted by tarzan1
http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/we....Rc-x_DaI.html
i think you'll find he was playing for Milwall only 10 days later - he hardly played for Rangers at all to be honest and NEVER played against Celtic...
dont remember the match to be honest or much details... Moore didnt play either...
what was the reaction to Viduka??
Vidmar came off the bench and don't think he got booed either.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
he was aBoro player was he not?Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
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Originally Posted by Conor74
aye right! and refusing to come out for the second half when your team is up the creek is an honest and upstadning thing to do....??
some twisted morals there mate.... you sure youre a football fan?
Yeah but was 5 years at Rangers. If Rooney and Kerr hadn't said what they did Vidmar and Muscat would have been booed.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
so arveladze and all those other guys were part of that history were they? I forgot shota was the grandmaster of the georgian orange lodge :rolleyes: there's bigotry on both sides of that divide and I'm sick of all of itQuote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
yeah, but if you start the blame game and saying "you started it" then it starts all over again. enough!Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
The guy was a **** - walked out on his team mates when a game was only half way through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
Is this a quality you'd look for in a player?
fair enough- as long as the wolfe tones are banned, the AOH aren't allowed march anymore and we adopt a new inclusive national anthem........ :)Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
nah, davros I agree with most of what you say re the north. I'm just sick of people linking it to 2 teams in Scotland.
Gypsyfella-not all EL fans hate the Celts-I love ''em (though of course I'm just a Cobh glory supporter arn't I eoinh!); think it's time people stopped pretending they have no Irish links. If they don't like Celtic fine-no need to go preaching to the world about it. Our fans arn't all biggots either!
Rangers have a very long history of secaterianism and violence which Celtic have never even touched on!
I don't hate Celtic at all. I always shout for them if they're on tv (unless they play an Irish team) I just hate a lot of the idiots who "support" them- and then think they're republicans because they're weraing a hooped jersey. Thats all.
Celtic have Irish links, but they ARE Scottish. simple really.
I don't. that was the point! I know it wont disappear any time soon, but it doesn't mean I have to just accept it and/or like itQuote:
Originally Posted by davros
a bunch of Irish clerics set up a football club to help the Irish (Catholic) community in Glasgow, the club becomes relatively very successful., a very nice story, call me sentimental, but I like it..another club in the city somehow becomes rabidly anti-Catholic and rabidly anti-Irish.
..Irish Catholics immigrants and their offspring do the same in other far-flung places, various universities have been started by Irish clerics, one of the top 15 universities in the U.S., Georgetown University was founded by an Irish cleric,..Boston College, DePaul etc etc...open to everyone regardless of faith, or lack of faith...did other universities pop up to counter these institutions like in Glasgow with rabid anti-Catholicism?...can anyone name anything that relates to the Celtic-Rangers thing in other countries where Irish immigrants have settled? just curious.
Cardiff actually. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
Just saw this thread now. There are some clowns on this forum, that's for sure.
It took you three months to work that out? :D
:D PP
Funny how that happened. Call 'Rangers' a sectarian institution if you like, but that wasn't the intention of its founders. If it was, the last thing they would have done was help Celtic by providing their first opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaucyJack
I don't think the Bob Jones University has an American football team. Come to think of it, they're not even affiliated to the NAACA. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SaucyJack
Well spotted! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Donal81
:D :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Donal81
FWIW 3 players born in what now is the Republic of Ireland played for Rangers in the last century. I have the exact stats at home and think I posted them on here before.
Alex Craig from Galway played over 200 times for the club. James Lowry McAuley from Portarlington made a handful of appearances if I remember correctly. The most prominent of all was Alex Stevenson from Dublin who played here for Dolphin in the early 30's and got a few caps as well albeit not when at Ibrox. I think he got them all at Everton. Rangers came to Dalyer for a friendly in 1933 to play Dolphin as part of the transfer. They also met Bohs on numerous occasions in Friendlies before WW2.
I don't particularly like Rangers FC btw. They play on the sectarian element of their rivalry. They tolerate sectarian singing of their fans particularly away fans. But they are not the only ones. ;)
Earned his first cap whilst at Dolphin, then had to wait fourteen years for his second (an Irish, and possibly world, record.)Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
He was capped for the All Ireland Ireland team in between - have the stats but not online.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
Total aside but it appears in the 1930's players did not play for both associations at the same time. Jimmy Dunne among others who would have been top stars seemed not to be picked by us when they were playing in the same year for Northern Ireland. This changed after WW2.
So assuming us fans of Limerick, shelbourne Cork City etc are west Brits ****s and anti Irish bigots for not supporting a British club what does that make fans of a real British club eg Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
BTW was it the Greenock Morton Irish who called Neil McCann a Judas and a traitor?
I'd put the farm on Rory Delap. Rangers were in for him when he moved from Derby to Southampton but he apparently decided it'd hurt his international career. I wouldn't be suprised if he's decided that as two goals against Arsenal at Highbury didn't bring him onto the radar -he has no international career.
Richard Dunne. As replacement for Boumsong.
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Originally Posted by gspain
any of them Catholic G.Spain?????...
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Originally Posted by Éanna
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww
poor you...
have you had to put up with iT? friends killed because of institutionalised racism and sectarianism.....
typical me fein attitude to life there....
good point SJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaucyJack
in fact Rangers FC won the sum total of NOTHING before the arrival of CFC onto the Scottish scene... they took it upon themselves to be the 'Protestant' team of the nation and so it began....
:confused: :confused: what has that got to do with anything? as it happens yes I have friends and family from the 6 counties who have suffered from this cráp, and also friends from palestine who have suffered even more. Fortunately none of them have been killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
I agree with a lot more of what Celtic "fans" and Celtic fans say, then I with their counterparts from Rangers. But bigotry is bigotry- end of story. Just because one type of bigotry is closer to your own beliefs doesn't make it less wrong
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Originally Posted by Éanna
you saying that the whole issue has you 'sick'....
do you live in Glasgow? do you know what society is like there... it is not the two sided coin you often mention....
Scotland on Sunday newspaper had a front page report recently tha Catholics are 3 times more likely to be attacked in Scotland than any other ehtnic group.
this all blends with the football and social structures of the country. one of the most respected commentators in Scottish media (Graeme Spiers) touched a nerve when he wrote about it recently, stating that (despite him growing up a Rangers fan) he found them to be of a more sinister, bigoted strand, than any other club in Scotland.
If you;ve never been there you really wont understand it.
no. and you've just reinforced my point. It's in Glasgow. Not in Ireland. Which is why I'm sick of people making it out to be an irish issue. thank you for confirming my pointQuote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
No idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaucyJack
This thread has just gotten ridiculous. Whether or not it was started in a means to annoy people or not I don't know. But it turning into this is ridiculous.
Gypseyfella you have not once contributed to the actual subject of this thread but you have turned it into a slanging match. You started off by abusing the poster and that was it. Then you started waffling on about rivalries bigots et al and partially into a debate into how green and white Mark Viduka was.
Jesus christ some of us like to surmise what Irish International might be moving where and the fact that the club rumoured to be involved was Rangers made it even more juicier.
This site can be a joke sometimes.
Spot on, I was interested a while ago but couldn't be bothered following this rubbish, what could have been an interesting debate turned into a schoolyard mouthing-off session.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
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Originally Posted by Donal81
'an interesting debate' - begun with no-named speculation by a fella who called the celtic fans 'oktobebigots'....
i think that deserved a comment... to highlight his ignorance if nothign else..
for the record i doubt ANY Irish int'l will be in Ibrox's home dressing room anytime soon....
It'd be Maybury if it was anyone...........he grew up a protestant in Ireland supporting Rangers. And good luck to him as it has no bearing on his ability as a footballer-which is all that matters
did you miss geography classes in school or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvio
While not one to speak on behalf of other board members, I dont believe "okto...." was a reference to all Celtic fans in general, but just to the Hardcore Celtic set who went as far as to set up a website Called "Ok2boo" to promote & protect the activity of Booing players with either a current or past rangers association when they played for their national teams against Ireland. Very big and clever, but thats neither here nor there.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
Oversimplification, perhaps, But I think that deserved a comment... to highlight that ignorance is in the eye of the beholder...