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Its not just this season that I think Shaw isn't up to it. Apart from a about 10 games last season I just don't think he's as good as a lot of people make him out to be. But if he's still with us next season and bangs in 10-15 goals or gets that move across the water as mentioned in summer window gone by then I'll accept that he's a good player!
Salmo wanted to stay said it in his radio interview the other day and said it the other night. Not overly worried about rice as his legs were going and his wages are probably too big to be a bit part player. Hunt made a mistake and was dropped, Skinner made several and wasn't if this not unfair treatment I don't know what is. If Kev is gone il be gutted simply because he is so good to watch but he's being linked heavily with a return to bray afaik.
Re. Schlingermann, I wouldn't have thought that we'd be in the mix for him. After the season he has had and at his age, he surely is eyeing a move to a full time club. If, for example, Rovers go for him then Craig Hyland will probably come available and he's a more likely target for us.
Daly (Drogs), Dillon (Bohs) and Corcoran (Sligo) are possible other targets. Benson (UCD) would be another good addition but he is probably on a scholarship there.
If limerick went down could we nick Freddy Hall. Good shot stopper and comes for crosses, but will try to Neuer his way in to trouble at least once a game.
Great way to keep everyone entertained..
Re schlingerfella, I don't think any of the Dub clubs or Bray need him to be honest. They all have good enough options, unless Dundalk wanted to replace Rodgers with someone with more potential. He works for the FAI over there so we'd be a handy enough commute.
Skinner also had some good games too, as did Hunt. Their practically identical appearance record for the season shows how even they are as keepers. The travel required for Hunt though is not going to improve him and it's for the best to move him on.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Wasn't O'Connor, along with Darren Quigley, the two main players owed wages by Bray from 2013? He'd hardly be rushing to return to them then if he has any sense. But, if he is "linked heavily" then so be it!!! (Any source to this link?!)
Hall in the mix with Cork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
If a contract is offered to KOC I'd safely say he'd sign it. As regards Bray rumours, I'd highly doubt he'd go back there. According to Charlie Darwin the Dub clubs don't need Schlingermann bar maybe Bohs, Bray re-signed Cherrie and Dundalk have Rogers. It could be between ourselves and Derry to snag him if he becomes available.
I'd say the forum wasn't even this active when we got promoted :D
Was chatting to someone heavily involved at bray and he said Mick Cooke was keen to get Kev back on board but as you said the money he's apparently owed is an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollocaine
I'd imagine the fact that like Quigley they can't acknowledge that he's actually owed the money without getting in bother would be a bit of a sticking point all right. I'd be confident enough we could match whatever Bray can offer and at least he knows he'll get paid it with us so it's just whether it's handier for him bearing all that in mind.
Bray making big pushes for next season it seems. Cherries 2 year deal suggests that at least.
And who says we won't make the same kind of a "big push"? I said above the ambition of the club is to challenge for Europe next year. We have people involved who can invest a bit if they want to.
Some of the reaction to the news on social media is ridiculously over the top. You'd swear Cousins shot the players. Someone reckons the fans should have had a say in the decision ffs.
Saying the aim is Europe is one thing actually putting your hand in your pocket and funding it is another. I don't think people realise how much money it would take to get us into Europe. Just look at the gap between us and Bohs this season. Bohs are being linked with players like Marty Waters from Rovers and Cassidy from Bray. I don't think they are players we could attract unless huge money was thrown at them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Everything you say is equally applicable to Bray. I'm not saying we will get there I'm just saying Bray don't have any more resources than we potentially do as far as I'm aware. We don't have a bad reputation from last year either which counts for a lot. All well and good offering lads big money but they'll be reluctant to sign if they're not sure they'll get it.
From the outside, given where we train too. Town would be far more appealing prospect to sign for I'd imagine. We have continuity not seen at any other LOI club in just about ever, in both ownership and management. Never a peep about unpaid wages and what have you. Not a notion why you'd sign for Bray after everything that happened last year, can anyone believe a thing they say about anything, really? They may well turn out to do well and build something, but all evidence points to the contrary at the moment, while on the other hand we must surely look like a club on the up.
Cherrie may have signed a 2 year contract with Bray, but will he be there in 2 years time? Bray's reputation of being unable to pay their players will have a bearing on whether KOC goes back there. If I were KOC and de Town offered €50 less than Bray I'd be signing up with the Town because at least you'd get paid every week. All this talk about whether our sponsor/board will stick their hands in their pockets? Well at least there's something in those pockets......that can't be said for Bray.
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Originally Posted by Longfordian
Agree 100%. I'd say Twitter hasn't seen such histrionics since One Direction announced their split. Hilarious stuff. If Davy is the next to tweet some 'news', a helpline will have to open...
I totally agree with what you are saying about Bray lads but as we've seen players in this league rarely use their heads when it comes to contracts and will jump at even 50 quid more. Let's be realistic Bohs are a much bigger club than us as are the current top 4 I can't see us breaking into that elite just yet but if the owners of the club have ambitions to do so and they can fund it without over extending us then il he as happy as anyone
Schlingermann, like Rice, has a job with the FAI so being full time probably wouldn't suit. That said, apparently Craig Hyland is leaving us in search of first team football, so could be we get Schlingermann part time and Hyland goes back to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollocaine
Bohs players are all on part-time or expenses. Longford could match them and training in Dublin it's much of a muchness.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Couldn't see Hyland coming back here he didn't end in great terms with cousins last time but then again he's matured a lot since then so would be expecting to walk in and claim the number 1 spot so it might appeal to him.
Is it just me or does there seem to be a load of rows with Cousins?
It's just you.
All the other talk is just hearsay
To be fair the ones he's fallen out with in the past haven't gone on to do much with their careers. I agree the 3 players released are replaceable but obvuisly town fans will be anxious until their replacements are revealed. This will be cousins biggest ever test, can he dismantle a successful squad and put together another one. Time will tell and Hel be judged by that.
His signings have been hit and miss his 2 best signings in the last couple of season imo were Gorman and O Connor I would love to see those two as the main midfielders next season
I would agree that there may be an overreaction but dont forget the club have treated one of the section o lads rather disgracefully over flares and a lot of people are very annoyed with the club and now this news of players being released on top of what happened previously compounds the issue. I understand why people would go mad on twitter over it. I am that annoyed with the club over this issue that I will be boycotting the dinner dance this year. Its not cos of players bein let go.
Think the over reaction to that situation re:flares has gone both ways Marty, what ever about the club giving the wrong fine, they issued an apology and got that sorted as soon as it was brought to their attention that it was the wrong person, but now its taken on a life of its own, its becoming ridiculous. The club are right go issue fines if they can successfully pick out the people in question, they have been warning about fines for flares for years and years and have in the past acted with a heavy hand towards some people regards flares etc, these people know who they are and have reacted in a positive way to all this in the past by getting involved with the committee(the people they were banging heads with) so they had a voice and could get their point across in a progressive way. Now where we are now is where a bunch of kids are acting the ****, get called out on it and are basically throwing their toys out of the pram. If they want to let of flares well then stand up and deal with the consequences, pay your fines and dont have people who have the clubs interest at heart they same as themselves, putting their hands in their own pockets to pay other peoples fines. Since these people have been becoming more and more vocal, less and less people have been gravitating towards section o and its a shame to see it!
I don't see how the two things should relate to each other at all to be honest. But I'm not getting into the other issue at all as I don't know the full details.
problem is that the culprits who will remain nameless have not gone to too many games this season. I havent got to all games this season but any game that I was at they were never there and came out of the woodwork for the cup semi final. Its the likes of them that stain section o's good name and would explain why we couldnt maintain the high numbers we used to have. Two others that do go to matches admitted their involvement and I would be confident they wont do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by howsyourtouch
Ah its all a load of ****e at the end of the day
Personally i enjoyed Section O so much more before it got involved in 'politics' (probably the wrong word, off field matters might be more accurate) and we simply focused on creating an atmsophere. Last year was fantastic but this year bar a few games here and there it was like a morgue out at CCS and that's a shame given it was our first season back in the big time. That's not to say of course the lads involved with the supporters club aren't doing Trojan work.
Interesting piece in the sun today lads. Cousins saying he hasn't had it confirmed to him by Pat sully that he's retiring so will be speaking to him over next few days. Also he said the player he met with the other day wanted FT football so we are out of the race. He said the pool of players in Ireland is limited so I'd expect us to look to England for more kids like Gannon.
Conor Powell and Kev O'Connor are signing back for next year. Good news especially regarding Kev and Powell ended the season well too.
Happy with that, especially that Conor remembered how to football. May prove useful.
obviously I am happy that the lads have resigned but I am disgusted with a certain person that puts the updates on our website(and its not Sorbo) who never posted a club statement saying the three lads were gone and thanking them for their long service. Its as if they have forgotten about the lads ever playing. A bit of manners from the club wouldnt go amiss!Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Good re-signings and interesting to see in the sun interview today that TC wants to lower the age profile of the squad. Should be plenty more news to come over the next few days
Happy with the news of the re-signings. KOC was a no brainer and I have to say after a very poor start Powell eventually started to show his potential.
For me, Kevin O'Connor has been our best midfielder since he joined - more important than Salmo and Rice have been. Delighted he's staying.
I be inclined to agree with you Macy. He is a fantastic player and a great addition to the team. Hopefully we can keep the quality we have, and put more around him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Remember when he used to be on the wing. Madness. It's rare in the LOI you get to see a player you genuinely enjoy watching, Kev is one of those.
Ricer wishing Pat Sully the best of luck in retirement. Everyone knows bar Tony 😂