All those years wasted under Trap.
Ill repeat that a few days over so no one misses it.
All those years wasted under Trap.
Ill repeat that a few days over so no one misses it.
A 2-2 draw, at least, will take is to France.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metrostars
The rain, here she comes, for our parade.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Is Dunphy and Sadlier still moaning?
It is worth nothing though. We're four days away from the three year anniversary of the 6-1 defeat. I know the Trap apologists are an endangered species at this point, but bloody hell, O'Neill's a score draw away from automatic qualification.
Don't even want to think about it. So much doubting of MON it's been rediculous. Watched it on ESPN and commentator pointed out that the biggest mistake was lining out too aggressively against Scotland which may be true. Just wish our boys could sustain that performance level...we'll see against PolandQuote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
I still cannot believe it.
So many immense performances tonight - Keogh, Ward, McCarthy, Christie, Hoolahan. Deserve every plaudit they get.
Football - bloody hell.
Dunphy was the only major commentator that called that was positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Grealish will never experience days like this.......... his loss.
Ha ha Grealish!
Better off without him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Yea it was a right team performance, so often we often have our hopes pinned on one or two players hoping
they will be available.
For me Wesi was great, there was moment in the first half where he pick up the ball and Waltz around
and nobody could touch him, it was so nice to see that confidence on the ball in the midfield where is
was so often missing. But not just Wesi as I said, team performance and as NI have shown that
is what *really* wins matches.
Not on my parade.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
The snow, here she comes, for your parade.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Brilliant win! That last 10 minutes was so hard to watch. The Germans genuinely seemed to lack ideas at the end. The ESPN commentator made a great point towards the end saying to take 4 points off Germany at any time is a fantastic result, which is so true. Even better from a depleted squad.
Wow... Can't believe we've taken 4 points off the World Champions... Dreamland... Pow what a hit by Shane Long, put it in the mixer and bang! Is that an assist for Randolph on his debut!
Wow wow wow. Shane long forever to be a sub. Love him. Robbie, there's a name for your child.
Not 100% but that is how I see it, if we draw they have better goal difference by 9 so I don't seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Metrostars
how we could finish above them whatever method is used.
However there is pressure on them, playing for a draw is tempting fate, we have nothing to lose
really but we can't throw caution to the wind either, but we beat Germany so anything can happen.
Mind you so did Poland, 2-0!
Same team again?
Long Keane?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
On cloud 9. Cannot recall last time sport made me feel this good. I'm drained after the last 20 minutes. Hands sweated litres!
Think of it like a playoff. If we score 2 we have better home/away goal difference. So 2-2 minimum for us to qualify. Goal difference doesn't matter unless we draw 1-1
I think when you do have a 'depleted' team everyone has to step up to the mark and do their bit, not rely onQuote:
Originally Posted by gastric
some plan based on the 'top' players, so a great effort from the lads all round and a great scalp to take!
Ah now, that sounds interesting, as I said I am unsure of the method, mind you scoring two sound tough but Scotland did it, soQuote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
maybe we can learn something form that.
Fortunately O'Neill selected Wes thinking he was man enough for the challenge unlike those Trappists who thought Wes would be ineffective and bossed around physically in such a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
As an aside I don't think we can catch Hungary in the best third place table can we? And also if they pip Romania into second I don't think we can catch them... Greece are bottom in that group and they can't catch Faeroes
Why the hell did George Hamilton say near the end of the match that it was great for us that Poland equalized?
(I feel the need to make a public apology to any midgets or dwarves within a 100 yard radius of my TV who may have overheard a torrent of abuse aimed at all vertically challenged people)
What happens if Germany loses to Georgia and we all finish on 19 points? Then it's a mini table between us all, right? Something like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
IRE (1W 3D) 6 pts
POL (1W 2D 1L) 5pts
GER (1W 1D 2L) 4pts
I guess in case we conceded. If our game had ended 1-1 that equaliser for Poland meant we would still be guaranteed minimum 3rdQuote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
I think, like a lot of people, Hamilton never even factored in what result in Scotland would benefit Ireland if Ireland beat Germany, so just blurted that out without any real consideration. I mean, you could even see the crowd start cheering when the news came in.
What can I say that hasn't already been said. The best 11 man performance I've seen since beating Italy in USA 94. That was a back line that had no right keeping a clean sheet against the attacking 5 of Germany. Incredible stuff altogether.
Christie had a poor first half but was immense in the second. Definitely grew in stature and hopefully will kick on for Derby. Ward was fantastic - I had my doubts, grave doubts, but he didn't put a foot wrong. Keogh and O'Shea put everything on the line for us. Heroic stuff. From all the back four. Given and Randolph, dare I say it, hadn't a whole lot to save. Most of Germany's chances were off target or bravely defended. Lovely assist from Randolph though! Haha!
Hoolahan if only we'd known you longer (us LOI heads did, mind). Brady didn't put a foot wrong and got back to pressure Schurrle off his shot when Neuer set them on the counter and Gotze crossed, some work rate covering for Ward. McCarhty was imperious, I hope people start to appreciate the job he does for us and has been doing all through the campaign. Hendrick is the future. For all the Hoolahan doesn't panic and keeps the ball, he has a kindred spirit in Unbelievable Jeff Hendrick. Walters was my man of the match. I lost count of the number of times he won the ball and won it back. Unplayable tonight.
Murphy was the wrong choice in my opinion but can't fault him. Right choice over Keane obviously. Long broke them with his pace as I predicted would be our best chance to beat them - pace in the channels.
A couple more observations.
Firstly, I have never ever ever seen an Irish team kill a game in the last five minutes the way this team did today. Keep ball in the corners for close to five minutes v Germany. Unheard of. Incredible.
Secondly, you never play for a draw (are you reading Trap?). Dare I say it Germany came for the point today? And left with nothing.
Enjoy your days/nights lads, wherever you are in the world!
You can forgive the crowd cheering anything, corner/throw in /tackle/missed tackle/ easy goalkeeper save etc etc, but George should have known better going into injury time and there was no siege.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
So awesome. Randolph, Christie, Hendrick, Hoolahan, Long, Brady... I could go on.
What's better is that we're in such a positive position heading into the game against Poland. Coleman, Whelan and McClean to come back with the former pair most very likely to start. I would like to see Coleman pushed up to the right side of midfield. I think Christie was too good to drop and Coleman is too good to leave out.
However, Whelan is probably going to start and Hendrick, McCarthy and Hoolahan also have to start after their performances. As regards Whelan starting, he's a favourite of MON and I've been happy with him over the last few games. On the assumption that that trio won't be as good on Sunday, he has to play.
I'm still unable to figure how we'll fit players into our team. Randolph in goals is probably the most certain, assuming Given is out. The rest of the 10 has to come from: Christie, Coleman, O'Shea, either Keogh (impressed me tonight) or Wilson (has been decent in past and Keogh is reputed to have a mistake in him), Brady, Whelan, McCarthy, Hoolahan, Long, Hendrick, Walters and McClean. What 3 are left out? One of Keogh and Wilson, probably McClean and????
Oh, and I haven't even included Ward in there. He was solid tonight, much to my surprise.
This result is as significant as Ireland's one nill over England in 88. I kid you not.
Even better from this angle?
http://rutube.ru/video/ea22458563e77...268dd01843e9d/
Congrats guys. Happy for you all.
Murphy was totally the wrong choice but I would decline the choice to play the match again without him starting.
One key tonight was Brady playing through the middle alongside Hoolahan and McCarthy.
Ha touche! But he hadn't shown that against a physical side bar Italy before, usually bossed off the ball(which did happen a few time tonight). he still messed about on a couple of very important occasions but overall he was good.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
i've never seen wessi run so much!
I said on our whatsapp group with mates from home before the lineup if murphy starts he will be subbed on 70 and long on. I think its a smart motivational factor for O'Neill and Long like Mcclean is more effective coming off the bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
If there was a murphy II with speed im sure he would be picked over murphy I for starting but long would still be coming on with 20 plus minutes to go.
Obviously hoping we can beat Poland but what's the story with playoff seeding now - that result must help our chances of being seeded which might give us a crack at someone like Albania or Slovenia instead of Holland or Croatia if we don't qualify automatically? Maybe a revenge mission against Israel...
Unfortunately we can't get the best third place spot.
I never doubted Shane Long's finishing, not for a second.
Sure is complicated stuff, I'd be surprised if the players are aware of all the combination as IQuote:
Originally Posted by Metrostars
am not, you really need an accountant to figure out where you are.