I presume you can change country if it's to a new one that's only just joined FIFA?
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I presume you can change country if it's to a new one that's only just joined FIFA?
Yeah think I read recently than Januzaj might yet declare for them too.
Yeah you can switch.
I remember this first cropping up as a kid when the USSR disintegrated and the likes of Kanchelskis was eligible for Ukraine. And obviously happened with all the Balkan countries
Slight difference there is that the countries they used to play for no longer existed.
Not the case with a Swiss international now wanting to play for Kosovo.
But would assume common sense will prevail.
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With the USSR, Russia were considered the successor nation. So technically still existed.
I the case of the Yugoslav breakup, Yugoslavia continued to exist despite Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia's secessions'. But the likes of Zvonimir Boban were able to play with their "new" countries despite having played for Yugoslavia previously.
UEFA qualifiers start tonight so - Groups C, E and F.
In CONCACAF, Mexico are through to the Hex with a 100% record. The US are through as well, unless they lose, Guatemala win and there's a 12 goal swing on the final day. But they're still shaky.
Panama are in the Hex as well - they'll be the only one of the six not to have previously qualified. The final round of this stage is on Wednesday, and the Hex starts in November.
The final round in Asia has started too - Thailand, Qatar, Syria and Uzbekistan have never qualified, but only Uzbekistan won on the first day. Round 2 is on Tuesday.
In South America, Argentina have Messi back from retirement, and he scored the only goal in the top-of-the-table clash against Uruguay. Brazil left it a bit late to win in Ecuador, but got three in the last 20 minutes (and two in the last three minutes) to keep in touch; they're in the play-off spot at the moment. But there's just two points between Argentina on top and Paraguay outside the play-offs; Chile are a further two points back. Round 8 is on Wednesday.
Going by the media talk over the past few months, a haunted England are keen to exorcise that ghost with a win in Slovakia. Whilst I'd wish Big Sam well, the attractions of schadenfreude at England's expense surpasses that considerably. So far, after 40 minutes the game has all the intensity of a pre season friendly.
A 95th minute winner again ten men.
Some things never change...
They'll qualify with ease and do nothing in the finals I'd sya.
http://foot.ie/forums/35-World-Cup Is there not a dedicated Forum for a thread such as this?
Yours in pedantry.
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I think the World Cup forum should be killed off tbh; the current (proposed) re-org to "Club football" and "International football" is the way to go.
Associated press report Kosovo are still waiting on 4 players,
Some 9 players previously capped with other countries had been cleared and a further 2 last night.
That leaves 4 cases outstanding.
The swiss fa have further moaned that die regln are nicht klar. Considering the ethnic make-up of all their international squads, they can shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
Kosovo are playing Finland away and like Montenegro from the WC 2010 qual, are strong 6th seeds likely to take points in this campaign
If you're a gambling man I'll give you generous odds. 1-10.Quote:
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Big win for Uzbekistan; a late winner in Qatar, while the other two matches end 0-0. They're five points clear of fourth after two games. Two home matches next month; against Iran and China.
Iraq and Thailand on 0 after two rounds in the other group and looking out of it; will probably end up with Australia and Japan qualifying automatically and the Saudis in the play off, though Japan have already lost to the UAE.
Albania played the last 8 minutes of their match against Macedonia this afternoon, and managed to score a winner in it, so they're level with Spain and Italy on 3 points.
UEFA games starting in 30 minutes, and North/South American games overnight.
Sweden v Netherlands live on ITV 4. Some games on Sky too.
Gibraltar 1-1 at home against Greece after 44 minutes.
But 4-1 down at half time.
Luxembourg 2-2 away to Bulgaria too. Switzerland 2-0 up at home to European Champions Portugal.
Ended 4-3 to Bulgaria; Luxembourg equalised in injury time and lost it again...
Draws for France and Hungary away to Belarus and the Faroes. Couple of open groups in this campaign, it seems.
I watched the Faroes v Hungary and it was a humdinger, ended 0-0. The Faroes have graduated from enthusiastic but cautious plodders to Danish Dynamite. I suppose their coach Lars Olsen has influence there but it was a sight to behold, constant possession based, fast paced, forward momentum, attacking football, both sides had their stonewall chances but the Faroes had the last shout hitting the post with the keeper well beaten.
Israel's first goal against Italy was a peach.
It was. Actually the Sweden goal against The Netherlands was sort of similar, a brilliant dinked finish from Berg after some sloppy play by Strootman at the edge of his own box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHnGa47J2OU
Mayhem in Reykjavik last night as the home team scored twice against Finland in stoppage time to grab all 3 points.
The last goal was up for debate, 'did the ball cross the line?'
In Fifa there is no assistant aside the goalmouth area
Here it is in a 20 second video, it's a reasonable still by still, slow motion video
The goal was attributed to the header by nr, 6 Sigurdsson, the ball was deemed to have crossed the line before the goalie managed some control and had his hand on the ball on the goal line, when the Ice striker nr.1i kicked it from under his hand. A goalie is deemed to have possession of the ball if he has hand or a finger on it. So it had to have crossed the line before then in order to be legal tender.
and the you tube version time coded to start for the late goal
The Finish defender who grappled the ref should have received the red card.
Looks good to me! The Finnish appeals looked insincere too I think... they knew.
I dunno; I think they can be aggrieved.
The guidelines are clear that -
Though this refers to "hands", the same passage (slide 23 of the above link) says that -Quote:
When a goalkeeper has gained control of the ball with his hands, it cannot be challenged by an opponent
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The goalkeeper is considered to be in possession of the ball while the ball is [...] between his hand and any surface (e.g. the ground)
The only question I think is whether the keeper let go of the ball after getting a hand on it at first. It seems unlikely, but you can't see for sure from the angle shown.
The red card looks clear cut too. Maybe the referee had a hunch the Finnish guy had a point though, and didn't want to hit them twice.
Luxembourg lost 1-0 to Sweden last night.
Apart from having three players who were in the Dudelange team that lost to UCD - Turpel, da Mota and Malget, who was sent off late on - they also started Vincent Thill for his fifth cap. He's already scored one goal - becoming, scarily, the first player born in the 2000s to score an international goal.
The goalscorer is ascribed to the header from nr 6, not the striker kicking it from under the "possession" of the goalie.Quote:
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The ref judged the ball was over the line before the goalie managed to be visibly in control of it, on the line.
I had a good view of it and my first instinct was that the header went over the line but one of my mates was not convinced by anything, not by me, not by the ref who was distracted by dishing out the card, but waited in a vacuum until the scoreboard registered the score, then he smiled.
These Finns are undaunted though and have a penchant for technology.
Some f'ecker managed to get this online which puts doubt on the validity,
and put into context with this
A big win last night for the doughty Faroes away to Latvia
But what can you say about the Latvian defending for the 2nd goal? criminal just doesn't fully describe allowing the striker an acre of space, a deft strike all the same.
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Really didn't look over the line though.
Is there a timeline for when goalline technology is being rolled out at non-finals events? Not a huge fan of technology being used at matches, but something that can give an instant beep in the ref's ear if it's a goal can't be too bad.
Doesn't the Aviva have hawkeye?
Very definitely now the iceland fa won't be dishing out 100s of 1000s of Euros for a technology that might give the visiting team some justice, when called upon once in a blue moon.
Not in Lansdowne so far as I can see
The Aviva is listed on the Fifa certified GLT listQuote:
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Maybe it's just in the testing phase.
Another issue is, if it has Hawkeye, can it be used in World Cup qualifiers?
Or is it a case that if it's to be used, it has to be available in all grounds? That'd slash the number of grounds available for qualifying matches then.
Wiki says it's about €500k to install; if it is in Lansdowne (even if it's just in testing), you'd have to figure that was a fair whack of cash for not a huge amount of payback surely?
I think it's a prudent investment for the Aviva to have GLT installed. Afaia the GLT approved by FIFA is connected to a wristpiece on the ref and if the ref is in any doubt, he/she can look at the screen on the wristpiece for Hawkeye's take on the matter.
Different from the all bells and whistles hawkeye entertainment that the spectators are treated to in Croke Pk.
Afaia GLT can be used for any qualifier wherever it's installed, there is no prerequisite that it has to be installed for all qualifier venues.
Iceland play their next game away against Croatia in an empty stadium. This is the second game in a row that they play in an empty stadium, the first being in the Ukraine. This could be some type of qualifier record, as in which team played 2 away games in a sanctioned empty stadium in a qualifier campaign?
Would it be a big issue if only the away fans could be allowed to attend?
Netherlands v France is on ITV 4 tonight, could be good. France played some brilliant football the other night against Bulgaria.
Three substitutions in the first half-hour in Estonia v Greece. Possibly a record?
Subs for Greece on 7 and 18 - the latter had already scored - and for Estonia on the half-hour.
Meanwhile, Benteke has annoyingly broken one of the more humorous records there was in football - the fastest goal ever scored in the World Cup, previously held by Davide Gualtieri for San Marino against England. Benteke scored against Gibraltar in 8.1 seconds, two seconds quicker than Gualtieri had managed it.
Strachan is under a lot pressure, his decisions lack sense, baffling tactics and his defense of both in the post match scrutiny goes beyond lunatic, maybe being unhinged and tetchy doesn't help his case either.
We'll see if he's hamsik by the close of game tonight.
Tartan at home but bright pink for scotland's away games.
http://i4.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming...i5XAAAoO1A.jpg
Poor Scotland, we have it so good by comparison really. I remember talking to some of their fans after both our Celtic Park & Lansdowne setbacks against them and they really were buzzing, on the crest of a wave. Even in our worst campaigns we're generally in with some sort of a chance of a playoff spot at least to keep the interest levels alive. I can only remember the campaign under Staunton really where we were fairly well goosed with a few games to go. Even then we were only short a small bit of luck in that double header in Slovakia/Czech Rep to keep our hopes vaguely alive. I suppose they have their two 'cup finals' against England to look forward to but difficult to see the mounting much of a challenge for second place now.
Strachan is atrocious, probably has given another car crash post match conference.
Excellent goalkeeping from Harte kept England alive against the mighty Slovenia or was it Slovakia?
There was a good line from the ITV commentator after Mak scored the Slovak's 2nd,
"MaK twists the knife".
Trouble in Romania for their game v Poland
Thugs scrapped it out in the stands, riot police restored some order, flares being fired across no man's land.
Both fans were involved but the Romanian thugs seemed to be well organised and had planned a confrontation.
Lewandowski got hit by some missile, looked sore but you'd have to grudgingly admit it was a damn good shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...pGFXKTqU#t=130
Sanctions aplenty on the horizon for Romania but Poland should also be facing charges for their fans' behaviour.
This should maybe be moved to the "Other Countries" forum?
Anyways, the US in trouble after two games in the Hex - a 4-0 away defeat to Costa Rica last night leaves them bottom of the group with no points.
They can stew on that for the next four months; next up is Honduras at home and then Panama away; Mexico drew 0-0 in Panama last night, so that's not an easy game at all.