The expansion is not at Rovers request, but the request of the SDCC council.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Rovers crowds are not relevant to the discussion
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The expansion is not at Rovers request, but the request of the SDCC council.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Rovers crowds are not relevant to the discussion
Disagree. I've been in various parts of the ground over the years (not just for Rovers) and I don't really hear anything from the SEI end. I don't think sound carries well at all there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
After Croly comments, he always has a sheepish, nervous smile and look at Collins as if to ask 'was that a good thing to say? Did I do ok?'
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I'd agree with this. Cup semi-final last year, sound didn't carry well across the ground. Apart from the slow clap where the whole ground gets involved, atmosphere is quite poor in Richmond. Open grounds with no roofs kill sound, it just goes straight up into the air.
Ah slow down now, Pat Dolan...Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
...sorry...what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
http://getnloose.com/wp-content/uplo...1/patdolan.jpg
That interview with the Bray chairman :D
Turns out there wasn't an issue. Or there was an issue but there wasn't one on Tuesday, just an issue on Wednesday. But there's no issue with that because since there was no issue before and merely a small issue later, it's not an issue.
I couldn't resistQuote:
Originally Posted by paykanti
That is a most unfortunate photo of Pat with the whole hand to mouth blur things. I wonder was he as lghtening quick eating a certain ex Dundalk FC employee..Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
The Tony O'Donoghue interview with the Athlone chairman - Why play a music track over such an important and decent interview? That grated the ****** of me tbh.
Interesting discussion between Brian Kerr and Dave Barry last night. Kerr wanted to discuss attacking versus defensive football, but Barry interpreted this as Dublin versus Cork.
I thought Kerr had some very decent points though RE Cork and Liam Miller. Where Miller constantly comes looking for the ball short and play some simple passing football, too many Cork players were looking for the long lump forward. I guess it shows the difference between international standard and where some of our players are at.
I don't understand why Barry derailed the discussion by going on about the Dublin media. Wasn't he in Dublin and on the media?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Dave Barry is a bit of a dinosaur in footballing terms. He hasn't made sense for about 10 years now.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Everything is Cork v Dublin to Barry. I saw him in Eddie Rockets on Friday before the game. He over heard someone say that the Eddie Rockets in Phibsboro is the nices. He was fuming. Clearly Dublin bias.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
I disagree, Dave Barry is one of the more knowledgable pundits, knowing players names without it written on a sticky somewhere. His views/analysis I find is ok, no worse or no more predictable as Byrne. Unfortunately he too suffers from the belief that there is an anti Cork bias exuded from Dublin and its media. El Pietro here on Foot is one of the very few Cork fans who dont constantly play the seige mentality card. CityRebel (very quiet these days) is the opposite and in the majority of the opinion that 'Dublin' is out to get Cork etc. Its a long running saga that was given a boost by Roy Keane and his whinging about having to travel to Dublin to train for Ireland at underage levels - shock horror that international representatives meet up and play in the capital. If there is a bias or favouritism in media outlets it is pro Dublin based clubs rather than anit Cork. Understandable if employees of media groups that are based in the capital end up top heavy with supporters of Dublin clubs. I dont happen to think this is the case as most are balanced enough. If it is to do with refereeing the issue is that they are all generally poor rather than 'Dublin ref syndrome'.
Maybe that's the difference between a good manager and a poor one.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Ridden Rock Solid again. Rico said that - the only Dub I have time for because his comments suit my agenda.
Dave Barry is a hero of mine, obviously, and normally I like him as a pundit as well. But this Cork v Dublin thing is getting old now. We built a lovely new motorway years ago so fellas from Cork can get to national training sessions easier and so we can go to All Ireland's quicker without having to slum it via Iranrod eireann. When the Newlands Cross flyover is finished perhaps the Dublin media bias perception can be finished with it.
Regards, the real capital.
Like Nesta, I do think that Dave Barry is a knowledable pundit and knows the teams and players inside out. I suppose we all get defensive about our own teams. There was the making a good discussion about Cork's tactics and whether it could hold back their title challenge. However, Barry killed it.
There is defensive (both tactically and about tactics) then there is playing defenders in midfield which is extreme to say the least. Cork have a squad that shouldnt be afraid of being more positive away from Turners Cross. If Caulfield is targeting home wins and then not losing away he should be warned that Dundalk while unbeaten at home in the league since 2013 wouldnt have won the league without winning away to Cork, Pats, and Rovers last season!
Just looking back there on RTE Player and DB does say something a bit odd just before 14mins, along the lines of "Miller is probably the best man in the league to get on the ball - I haven't seen him now, and pass it...judge him after 7 games not one".
If he hasnt seen him why the issue with Kerr saying Miller's teamates should be getting him on the ball more through the middle rather than the super direct back to front long ball especially v 10 men. It was far from critical Kerr was being. Even if it was just analysis of that one game where Cork failed to take advantage of being a man up it was still a valid point.
The next name to be used by a LoI side from Cork!Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Jesus do you want me killed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Hilarious from Barry. Kerr's examples proved his point about how Cork play away and Barry argued he should see them at home. Kerr wasn't talking about home performances at all.
Presume the Dublin media line played well in Cork too
This is a real storm in a tea cup. In effect, both of them are right. We do have the players to play a more flowing game away from home, and personally, I don't know why we don't. Also, our game is much more flowing at home. I don't really see the Dublin-Cork bias argument here. I don't even think Barry was saying that. Kerr made a judgement on a completely different gameplan that we for some reason employ away from home, something which he was right to criticise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Cork must be doing something right at home if they get 5,000 through the turnstiles.
I have yet to see them this season but reports indicate a very defensive set up away from home. If the goal is to win the league, winning away from home is important.
If I didn't know any better I'd think Johnny C put him up to it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Yeah, they are winning games and up the business end of the table. Not really a comment on the football they are playing. In fairness Corks ability to generate crowds when doing well should be the envy of everyone in the league. I'd love 5,000 every week at Richmond.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Subtle change to your comment!Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
Lads, it's not as if they've stumbled upon some secret formula. The evidence is clear: just commit no fouls or break the rules in any way and the fans will flock in to watch such virtuous football. I'll be the first to admit my own club could learn a thing or two.
While winning is the trigger, there has been a huge amount of work done for about 15 years through schools and other community projects. So it hasn't just happened overnight. What I've noticed in recent times is a complete change of attitude towards the LOI. The blank stares have seemingly become a rarity and supporting your LOI club is now as socially acceptable as I can remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
The funniest thing about this running joke is that we finished second in the fair play behind Dundalk. If we had been even more virtuous we clearly would have been Champions. Though UCD finished third and were relegated...Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I know, that's why it's really funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
If you had drawn even one of the 3 games you lost to Dundalk last year (agg score of 8-1), you could have been champions! The two in Oriel Park were quite comprehensive defeats, but that was a missed opportunity in TX last August. However even with the late winner for us, we probably did deserve to win the game, but it just shows you the fine margins and how valuable every single point is.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
You don't need to tell me that. I was saying that from before your second win over us. I've said many times here how the 1998-99 season was horrible for me, and it was exactly the same. We lost 3 times in the league to St. Pats, and one draw would have been enough for the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
To be fair, I enjoyed large parts of both seasons.
There are incredibly fine margins in all leagues, another one for us was back in 1988/89, defending double champions, unbeaten at home all season and still 'only' came second.
That was some League run Cork went on to be fair from the middle of August to the middle of October last season.
I'd argue that run has been going on for a little bit longer, and still continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
(Though those 6 Wins in a row, and 10 game unbeaten streak was pretty special and made many of us believe we could do it, I for one was not prepared for defeat that day).
The last time someone other than Dundalk beat City in the League was Bohs last July. Before that Pats last May. Before that, Shamrock Rovers September 2013.
Since Tommy Dunne left/was sacked Cork City have played 50 league games. 46 of those are against teams not named Dundalk. 33 Wins, 10 Draws and 3 losses for an average PPG of 2.37, form of Champions its fair to say. None of those losses came at Turners Cross either.
The other 4 games against Dundalk have not gone as well. Dundalk have beaten us 4 times by an aggregate of 12-1. Granted three of those games were in Dundalk, but if we're going to be successful this year we need to reverse that trend, or at least stop it.
Most pleasing is that in that 18 months or so we have only lost one game at home. In Dunnes last few months we were coughing up unbeaten home records left right and centre. Rovers and Derry had both gone a decade without league wins in Cork and we gifted them both three points. The worst was Bray though. 21 years I think it was. They not only beat us they battered us. 3-1 was a flattering scoreline.
Feckin' plastic pitch advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Great pitch back then, nothing like a game the week after staging the Tug Of War World Championships.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EaIp380M3nM/hqdefault.jpg
Assume that's a joke guys, this was 1988/89 season I'm on about, unbeaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Those are fair stats EP, very solid results, and fair point on the home record with only one defeat in 18 months.
Think I saw this before, was this not 1978?Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse